And current players found out new guys were making more than they were. Didn’t sit well; star LB looking to transfer now.
FC/OT: Apparently, Ole Miss NIL contracts were leaked…
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Reportedly one of the issues with the 2025 PSU team was disparities in NIL compensation causing locker-room issues. It’s no secret Franklin struggled with NIL, attempting to manage it himself. He paid a boatload to a number of the seniors who showed loyalty, and otherwise had an inconsistent approach across the roster. He paid Olesh, who never played as a freshman, a mill just for a recruiting victory over UM but lacked big money for a true WR1 portal. Supposedly Campbell’s front office team has a more consistent approach to NIL. We shall see!
I love this eating your young very predictable situation. It’s an absolute schit show with no solution.
Slotting by position. Coaches or should I say GMs in college now know how to do it. Franklin appeared to resist a position-based model. Campbell's guy knows what every position is worth (within a range of course).
Here's how it works here at UNC: 1st year TE, xxx per year, 2nd year TE starter, xxx+10 percent, 3rd year TE transfer starter, xxx + 20 percent.
Interestingly enough this is what the Pats did under Belicheck so he and his GM are very comfortable with how they want the team structured. Ever wonder why they never had high-priced wideouts when he was the Pats coach? Too expensive and don't need them according to Bill and his GM.
A big plus for this system is that a GM can lay it out for the parents or ahem, "agents" and show them the player's worth ahead of a decision. UNC brought in 70 new players last year. I suspect they will replace 40 this year. It's one-year free agency.
Now 'obviously' you have to have the budget. The more money, the more you can pay per slot and the better talent you can have. We in the Rams Club are being asked to fund NIL even more this year to make the system work. I don't think this is tenable long term because I really don't want to continue to give more each year. I suspect what will happen is that corporate money will fill the void at some point. I'm sure they are hard at work thinking of ways to get more corporate sponsorships instead of nickel and dimeing schlubs like me each year.
Who is coaching ole miss?
Have you seen the compensation of the current team? Guaranteee if it was made public, there would be some unhappy players.
Who is wr1 on psu 2026?
2025.
Elksiden 30 catches
Sowell 32
Ross 35
Pena 49
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Joe Smith named the Nvidia Tight End at North Carolina.
(His jersey will have an Nvidia patch. He’ll wear an Nvidia cap during post-game interviews.)
So what you are saying is that he will be playing with a chip on his shoulder.Joe Smith named the Nvidia Tight End at North Carolina.
(His jersey will have an Nvidia patch. He’ll wear an Nvidia cap during post-game interviews.)
Not to get too into the weeds - and there is a vast forest to get into, if one wanted to:
NFL teams all have "X" dollars to spend - a salary cap - right? That everyone comports to.
They have contracts - short term, long term, options, etc all spelled out - that everyone comports to. Right?
NFL teams have rules, regulations, "slotting values" etc for controlling the recruiting/drafting of new players - and each team gets to draft only Y number of players in pre-determined order. Right?
As opposed to complete and utter anarchy of "college" sports.
So how does any of that have a non-zero chance of being viable, sustainable, employable in the current "business model"? (Rhetorical - none of it does - obviously)
It is what it is.
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In an industry where there are zero adults in the room (or, at least, zero adults whose voices are not being drowned out by the "Win Championships!" crowd) it is utterly quixotic.
FWIW: There is no way that UNC - or anyone in either college sports or NFL - utilizes such a rigid formulaic system (I expect you were using it to illustrate a valid point - not "verbatim"). Different organizations may value certain traits and skills more than others - and, for sure, some are "smarter" in employing their resources than many others (eg: Patriots during the Belichik years). Which I think was your overarching point.
I don’t love it but your reaction is 100% rational.
Excellent post. In your view, do you think PSU and others shift some NIL dollars away from a high school recruiting focus over to a starter recruitment and retention focus? Indiana, OSU, PSU, and others seem to be focusing on production rather than potential. You’re seeing a ton of backups at places like OSU and Bama hitting the portal. I’m guessing they’re not getting the same dollars anymore, but obviously I could be wrong.
I love it because it won’t be fixed until it breaks beyond recognition
Ban NIL collectives. Are you a player that wants to make some money? Find some endorsements.
The courts will not allow the ncaa to ban the NIL collectives. The only way out of this broken NIL system is unionization and collective bargaining agreements.
1) Has nothing to do with the NCAA (which is an inert)
2) Schools can absolutely choose to not employ collectives (though, to be workable would require some adults in the room to gather consensus among the industry - that is what is lacking).
I do. I think its inevitable that free agent players will become more valuable. The pros all do some form of this (well, maybe not Cleveland, lol) and it makes the most sense when you have a budget. I think Franklin thought one more year of unequal payments, win it all and then sort things out. Unfortunately, that blew up. Down here, Bill doesn't even know what each players is making (according to him). He just coaches what the GM provides according to him.
Then Indiana's players won't make as much money as kids at other schools. So, I guess win-win!All players make $18/hr during team practices and games, 40-hour work week. Done.
They’re the best team in college football—and they barely practice at all
Problem is this isn't what NIL was supposed to be. This is now a minor league system for the NFL. Teams weren't supposed to just be giving money to players. NIL - Name, Image and Likeness - was supposed to allow players to go out and obtain endorsements from businesses. Essentially now teams have a "salary cap" and are paying players.
They showed us at the Rams Club lunch exactly what I showed you. The value of each slot is assigned (there are ranges and exceptions) by position so you have different kinds of players (first years, portal kids, one-year eligibility players) all assigned a value and the GM negotiates with the family or agent based on that value. The GM called it disciplined recruiting or scouting, not a rigid program. Presently, UNC doesn't sign certain portal transfers at some positions which I thought was interesting -- what they did at New England.
The TV money really helps UNC btw. After that, the donations are the base (they need 20M-22M per year which they don't currently have) and then they layer sponsorships over it. Our collective isn't outsourced like Penn State's. It's part of the Rams Club which funds all support for D1 athletes for all programs (yes, there is some NIL money for female soccer players at UNC for example).
Now that psu has someone who knows what they are doing, what is your prediction for next season?
I think you will see what Campbell (and his GM) values and you'll see an identity in year 2 recruiting, both on the hs and portal level. Right now, it appears he filled holes based on his Iowa State roster. I think we get a better picture of who the Lions will be in year 2.
As far as record...based on what we know now, they should win 9 games.
Pena had 49 catches.
Ross 36.
Sowell 30
Eskilden 32.
I prefer #1s to have MORE catches not less.
The unmentioned subtext here is that you do not require high-priced wideouts when you have Tom Brady throwing the ball. Most receivers can catch balls thrown to them. You need exceptional receivers to haul in inaccurate passes.
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Harold Lloyd The Freshman 1925
There is a scene from Harold Lloyd's great silent movie, the Freshman, that shows a huge stadium with the caption: 'Universities: a big stadium with a school attached'. Boy, did they ever get that right. They were ahead of their time100 years ago. The movie is hilarious. The corruption of higher education by athletics sucks!
So, some damn 18-year-old makes more as a freshman than virtually any of his professors. This shite is a gargantuan impropriety for universities and the conceit of "academia".
Harold Lloyd The Freshman 1925
There is a scene from Harold Lloyd's great silent movie, the Freshman, that shows a huge stadium with the caption: 'Universities: a big stadium with a school attached'. Boy, did they ever get that right. They were ahead of their time100 years ago. The movie is hilarious. The corruption of higher education by athletics sucks!
And current players found out new guys were making more than they were. Didn’t sit well; star LB looking to transfer now.
The beauty of NIL. Look for any number of veteran, respected coaches to leave. They must all keep a big bottle of aspirin in their desk drawer next to the bottle of Jack Daniels. This is not sustainable.
Yet the ISU receivers with Becht had less receptions.
Pena had 49 catches.
Ross 36.
Sowell 30
Eskilden 32.
Supposedly. (according to what is generally assumed or believed (often used to indicate that the speaker doubts the truth of the statement).
That we are past any pretense that college has anything at all to do with college football.
Possible.
But I doubt many coaches leave - not when THEY are pulling in $10 million per year. Not unless they are already near the end of the line - and even then, doubtful
Elksidon had 32 catches , and was a sophomore with a 17.5 yds per catch avg. which ranked 24th nationally , All Big 12 honorable mention, All Big 12 Academic Team. Had 7 starts.
Chase Sowell had 30 catches, was a Jr. and had a 15.6 yds per catch avg., All-Big 12 Hon. Mention, Academic All Big 12, only had 6 starts.
Pena 49 catches, 11.3 yds/catch and Ross 36 catches, 13.9 yds/catch. Both had a Bowl game to play in to up their reception totals. Last I checked, neither Pena or Ross has any further eligibility.
Chase Sowell had 30 catches, was a Jr. and had a 15.6 yds per catch avg., All-Big 12 Hon. Mention, Academic All Big 12, only had 6 starts.
Pena 49 catches, 11.3 yds/catch and Ross 36 catches, 13.9 yds/catch. Both had a Bowl game to play in to up their reception totals. Last I checked, neither Pena or Ross has any further eligibility.
Elksidon had 32 catches , and was a sophomore with a 17.5 yds per catch avg. which ranked 24th nationally , All Big 12 honorable mention, All Big 12 Academic Team. Had 7 starts.
Chase Sowell had 30 catches, was a Jr. and had a 15.6 yds per catch avg., All-Big 12 Hon. Mention, Academic All Big 12, only had 6 starts.
Pena 49 catches, 11.3 yds/catch and Ross 36 catches, 13.9 yds/catch. Both had a Bowl game to play in to up their reception totals. Last I checked, neither Pena or Ross has any further eligibility.
Using that logic we should have kept Grunk.