FC: Singleton and Allen to return?

[step.eng69]

I doubt that the entire war chest is much more than 15 million.

More like $10 from what I have been told

@LionJim​

* See our disclosure of Methodology as to how these estimates were arrived at.​

Estimated NCAA Revenue Sharing 2025-26: Big Ten Schools​

Average per School	$ 116,190,176	$ 25,561,839	$ 19,967,336
NCAA Revenue Sharing estimates 2025-26 *	Annual Revenue	22% of Revenue	Est Revenue Sharing 2025
Illinois	94,445,170	20,777,937	20,500,000
Indiana	102,392,473	22,526,344	20,500,000
Iowa	118,237,834	26,012,323	20,500,000
Maryland	82,283,284	18,102,322	18,102,322
Michigan	166,204,848	36,565,067	20,500,000
Michigan State	117,004,694	25,741,033	20,500,000
Minnesota	102,829,428	22,622,474	20,500,000
Nebraska	142,131,011	31,268,822	20,500,000
Northwestern **	**	**	**
Ohio State	187,930,323	41,344,671	20,500,000
Oregon	112,696,955	24,793,330	20,500,000
Penn State	141,979,389	31,235,466	20,500,000
Purdue	98,227,839	21,610,125	20,500,000
Rutgers	76,561,314	16,843,489	16,843,489
Southern Cal **	**	**	**
UCLA	81,961,661	18,031,565	18,031,565
Washington	102,064,858	22,454,269	20,500,000
Wisconsin	132,091,734	29,060,181	20,500,000

Note: The average funding per collective will decline substantially with the advent of revenue sharing beginning in the 2025-26 academic year. NIL collectives became a factor in college sports as they performed a function that schools were prohibited from doing themselves. However, with revenue sharing, schools can directly compensate athletes up to $ 20.5 million annually, and the reliance on collectives will be significantly reduced going forward. Schools are facing steep new financial obligations, and most will be looking to redirect booster contributions currently going to collectives, back to the schools to help pay for revenue sharing and increased scholarship commitments.

Big Ten Conference Schools 2023-24:​

School	2023 Conf	2024 Conf	Collective Funding *	Total Support	Ticket Sales	Contributions
Illinois	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 9,311,667	56,656,994	15,693,517	40,963,477
Indiana	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 13,631,160	82,939,020	21,278,997	61,660,023
Iowa	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 9,698,730	59,012,087	26,416,829	32,595,258
Maryland	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 3,735,112	22,726,352	12,735,792	9,990,560
Michigan	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 16,357,054	99,524,766	55,266,135	44,258,631
Michigan State	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 13,035,471	79,314,544	25,178,673	54,135,871
Minnesota	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 7,171,424	43,634,648	19,252,536	24,382,112
Nebraska	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 7,973,918	48,517,435	38,946,701	9,570,734
Northwestern	Big Ten	Big Ten	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
Ohio State	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 20,253,400	123,232,149	59,649,921	63,582,228
Oregon **	Pac-12	Big Ten	$ 10,623,807	64,640,729	24,357,945	40,282,784
Penn State	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 13,793,489	83,926,716	44,678,657	39,248,059
Purdue	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 5,510,579	33,529,207	16,617,614	16,911,593
Rutgers	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 3,624,816	22,055,252	13,049,333	9,005,919
Southern Cal **	Pac-12	Big Ten	n/a	n/a	n/a	n/a
UCLA **	Pac-12	Big Ten	$ 5,919,423	36,016,831	17,494,361	18,522,470
Washington **	Pac-12	Big Ten	$ 9,406,794	57,235,798	29,198,790	28,037,008
Wisconsin	Big Ten	Big Ten	$ 8,982,406	54,653,602	38,117,093	16,536,509

 

[BobPSU92]

I think there will always be bags of cash. Pay to play- or don't.

Nah. The players have enough cash money now.

 

[BiochemPSU]

Nah. The players have enough cash money now.

It’s bags of bitcoin now.

 

[MacNit]

I don't even necessarily like Allen on a 3rd and 1, because that's a yard we HAVE to have, and if there's nothing there in the expected hole, there's a good chance Allen just runs right into the muck anyway and gets stymied, whereas I trust Singleton to find a sliver of space and at least pop forward for that yard.

Who has been better at it in reality? Not even close: Allen by a mile.

 

[Midnighter]

The revenue sharing increases by 4% a year too (Ross Dellinger is on top of all this - check Yahoo sports for his stuff).

 

[LB99]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the revenue sharing does not eliminate NIL. Both will coexist, correct?

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

If 13 and 10 come back we will lose 24

 

[LB99]

If 13 and 10 come back we will lose 24

So, do they tell 13 or 10 no thanks for fear of 24 leaving? I don’t think so. 25 and 26 are waiting in the wings as well.

 

[razpsu]

I think Singleton will be far more effective against a team like ND because of your first sentence. Allen is more effective against the Boise State’s of the world. If you need third and short, Allen is better. If you’re looking for a potential home run, Singleton is the guy.

Singleton is the guy for a 1-10 homerun. Allen is the guy to wear down notre dame at 3-7 yards a clip. Notre dame slime is fast and nimble but not stoudt to stop up the gut pounding for 4 quarters. They are faster on the edges.

 

[Bison13]

So, do they tell 13 or 10 no thanks for fear of 24 leaving? I don’t think so. 25 and 26 are waiting in the wings as well.

Plus two more good ones coming this year.

 

[LB99]

Singleton is the guy for a 1-10 homerun. Allen is the guy to wear down notre dame at 3-7 yards a clip. Notre dame slime is fast and nimble but not stoudt to stop up the gut pounding for 4 quarters. They are faster on the edges.

I think they are wounded up the middle. Didn’t they have a DT tear an ACL late in the season? Maybe against Indiana? They also had a DT go down against UGA. Not sure his status? So, if the DTs are wounded and the edges are fast, does PSU just run right at them?

 

[SleepyLion]

Correct me if I am wrong, but the revenue sharing does not eliminate NIL. Both will coexist, correct?

That is correct. NIL can still happen outside of revenue share.

Players can still get paid to do a commercial or even just say "hi" to a random person.

 

[Midnighter]

That is correct. NIL can still happen outside of revenue share.

Players can still get paid to do a commercial or even just say "hi" to a random person.

NCAA will have a clearing house to review NIL deals so they aren’t pay for play and are ‘fair market value’. We’ll see how successful it is.

 

[LB99]

That is correct. NIL can still happen outside of revenue share.

Players can still get paid to do a commercial or even just say "hi" to a random person.

So, bagmen will still exist above and beyond revenue sharing. It will still not be an equal playing field.

 

[LB99]

NCAA will have a clearing house to review NIL deals so they aren’t pay for play and are ‘fair market value’. We’ll see how successful it is.

Sure they will. I’m sure it will be on the up and up.

 

[SleepyLion]

NCAA will have a clearing house to review NIL deals so they aren’t pay for play and are ‘fair market value’. We’ll see how successful it is.

The NCAA basically did this before and set the limit at zero. That did not survive the courts. I doubt a court would agree that a limit of $10m would be okay.

The cat is out of the bag (no pun intended). As long as rich fans are willing to pay kids to go play at a favorite team what could stop them?

I doubt the players would agree to limit their ability to take bags of money in some CBA.

I also doubt players will form a union until the players are being taken advantage of. Right know the players have all the leverage. The purpose of a union is to limit the leverage of the employer.

 

[BobPSU92]

If 13 and 10 come back we will lose 24

24 or 13 and 10

 

[Bkmtnittany1]

Read an article about the 20 mill cap for Penn State when the schools start paying the players directly. The same article mentioned NIL funds were at 13 mill.

So, do they tell 13 or 10 no thanks for fear of 24 leaving? I don’t think so. 25 and 26 are waiting in the wings as well.

How about 27-28-29?

 

[Midnighter]

The NCAA basically did this before and set the limit at zero. That did not survive the courts. I doubt a court would agree that a limit of $10m would be okay.

The cat is out of the bag (no pun intended). As long as rich fans are willing to pay kids to go play at a favorite team what could stop them?

I doubt the players would agree to limit their ability to take bags of money in some CBA.

I also doubt players will form a union until the players are being taken advantage of. Right know the players have all the leverage. The purpose of a union is to limit the leverage of the employer.

This is court ordered as part of the settlement. Think this has a better chance than anything else there is.

 

[Midnighter]

So, bagmen will still exist above and beyond revenue sharing. It will still not be an equal playing field.

Let’s see how long bagmen feel compelled to spend millions on players who can transfer at will and who can also get paid by the school. There are maybe five schools who can do this - maybe two.

 

[Nitt1300]

Let’s see how long bagmen feel compelled to spend millions on players who can transfer at will and who can also get paid by the school. There are maybe five schools who can do this - maybe two.

three if you count Harvard

 

[LB99]

Let’s see how long bagmen feel compelled to spend millions on players who can transfer at will and who can also get paid by the school. There are maybe five schools who can do this - maybe two.

I think you are underestimating the level of irrational and stupid that exist out there.

 

[step.eng69]

NCAA will have a clearing house to review NIL deals so they aren’t pay for play and are ‘fair market value’. We’ll see how successful it is.

I believe that " Clearing house" has already been breached.....

 

[step.eng69]

So, bagmen will still exist above and beyond revenue sharing. It will still not be an equal playing field.

YES MY FRIEND,
don't the players also get around $6000 per yr for cost of attendance to by pizza?

 

[Catch1lion]

How about 27-28-29?

Might lose 25 or 6 to 4.

 

[Lionville]

Might lose 25 or 6 to 4.

There’s that Iowa nightmare

 

[Catch1lion]

There’s that Iowa nightmare

True but I was thinking Chicago Transit

 

[Lionville]

True but I was thinking Chicago Transit

I know. But whenever I see 6 to 4 it’s instant flashback.

 

[bdgan]

Let’s see how long bagmen feel compelled to spend millions on players who can transfer at will and who can also get paid by the school. There are maybe five schools who can do this - maybe two.

I'm sure that existing NIL deals are forfeited if players transfer.

 

[step.eng69]

I'm sure that existing NIL deals are forfeited if players transfer.

I would assume it is stimulated in the player's contract.
But, who knows?

 

[Marshall2323]

Might lose 25 or 6 to 4.

Chicago!

 

[Marshall2323]

True but I was thinking Chicago Transit

With Peter Cetera and Terry Kath they were incredible. Saw them 17 years ago with Keith Howland and Jason Scheff and they were still great and put on an incredible show! Sadly, I think Robert Lamm, Jimmy Pankow and Lee Loughnane are the only original members still rocking in person.

 

[Marshall2323]

24 or 13 and 10

Roster management is delicate. Scarcity of financial resources as well. How much of your assets do you wish to allocate to one position? Fans want to keep everyone who is eligible to return on the current roster, bring a king's ransom in through the portal and recruit 25 blue chips.
As a fan, I hope they both return. Realistically, my guess is they try to make it appealing for one. I think Singleton will fare better at the combine. Also, he has developed into a pretty good receiver and his speed will translate there in the NFL. We can debate who is the better back right now between the two. I think NS has a better NFL toolbox.

 

[Marshall2323]

How about 27-28-29?

Here's hoping they all "Color My World."

 

[PSU1969A]

Just read that Singleton is undecided. Will Make a decision when season is over.

 

[Catch1lion]

A Penn State beat writer has Allar's NIL at $4 mill. Leaves us with about $9 mill for the rest of the team.

 

[Lionville]

A Penn State beat writer has Allar's NIL at $4 mill. Leaves us with about $9 mill for the rest of the team.

That’s absurd.

 

[Nitt1300]

That’s absurd.

Arch Manning money- and he hasn't even started yet.

 

[Marshall2323]

That’s absurd.Reply

That's what he can draw on the open market. I'd be surprised if he has more than half of that here.

 

[bdgan]

Just read that Singleton is undecided. Will Make a decision when season is over.

A lot of players who have decided say that.