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30CAT

All-American
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I'll give you lefties credit. You never get tired.
 

79eer

Junior
Oct 4, 2008
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Everyone is entitled entitled to be wrong once in awhile, ........ or in some cases, damn near every time. Wouldn’t be as much fun if they weren’t​
 

WVUCOOPER

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It’s hurting China and businesses are looking at moving out of China further hurting them. No question it negatively impacted us as well though.
We get it. You're scared shitless of China. There are other ways of combating China without self inflicted dick wounds. Moving from China, what is your rationale for supporting the steel/alum tariffs? Or any of the other non China tariffs? Other than your Orange God obsession.
 

DvlDog4WVU

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Feb 2, 2008
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We get it. You're scared shitless of China. There are other ways of combating China without self inflicted dick wounds. Moving from China, what is your rationale for supporting the steel/alum tariffs? Or any of the other non China tariffs? Other than your Orange God obsession.
We get it, you’re fine with ceding business to China at the expense of our country.

I don’t support the broad use of tariffs unless it improves our negotiating stance with the country’s impacted. I don’t believe that it has. I only support fighting China through every mechanism we have at our disposal.
 

30CAT

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Not at all. One trillion dollar deficits and Obama lite growth. Are you ignoring the economy?

Under Obama, the debt increased more than under Trump in comparison. The best our economy has been in decades.

1.7 million people left the work force under Obama. So far, under Trump 2 million people have entered the work force.

Lowest unemployment in decades. Ignoring the economy? Heck no. I'm enjoying it.
 

bornaneer

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Jan 23, 2014
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Not at all. One trillion dollar deficits and Obama lite growth. Are you ignoring the economy?
I'll take todays economy any day over any one of Obama's. My portfolio says thanks to Trump.....talk is cheap.....while results are real.
 

mule_eer

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May 6, 2002
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Under Obama, the debt increased more than under Trump in comparison. The best our economy has been in decades.

1.7 million people left the work force under Obama. So far, under Trump 2 million people have entered the work force.

Lowest unemployment in decades. Ignoring the economy? Heck no. I'm enjoying it.
What's your source for those Obama numbers? We were adding jobs at 100-200k per month from about 2013 forward.

With respect to deficit numbers under Obama, they declined as the economy improved. They have increased dramatically under Trump with a further improved economy. How do you explain that?
 

mule_eer

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May 6, 2002
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Under Obama, the debt increased more than under Trump in comparison. The best our economy has been in decades.

1.7 million people left the work force under Obama. So far, under Trump 2 million people have entered the work force.

Lowest unemployment in decades. Ignoring the economy? Heck no. I'm enjoying it.
Just to note, per The Balance, at the end of the Bush administration, 143.4 million people were working. By the end of the Obama administration, 152.3 million people were working.
 

79eer

Junior
Oct 4, 2008
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“Every Democrat Challenger has one massive problem to overcome, no make that two, the best Economy in decades and Trump”. ....... Dem. Strategist
 

Airport

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Just to note, per The Balance, at the end of the Bush administration, 143.4 million people were working. By the end of the Obama administration, 152.3 million people were working.
When Obama took office the GDP was 14.5 trillion, when he left office it was 16.5 trill. For those who went to govt schools that's an increase of basically 2 trillion over 7 years. Trump takes office, 16.5 trillion and last year it was 21.5 trillion. In three years, he doubled it with his proAmerican policies and good tax policy. I don't know about you, I'd rather have people have their own money to spend, they do it better.
 

mule_eer

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May 6, 2002
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I'll take todays economy any day over any one of Obama's. My portfolio says thanks to Trump.....talk is cheap.....while results are real.
These are approximated based off closest quarter. As of 1 Dec 0i, s&p was at 735. As of 1 Dec 16 it was 2747. That's a 17.9% rate of growth. On 1 Dec 19, s&p was 3380. That's a 7.2% rate of growth. Just saying.
 

mule_eer

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May 6, 2002
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When Obama took office the GDP was 14.5 trillion, when he left office it was 16.5 trill. For those who went to govt schools that's an increase of basically 2 trillion over 7 years. Trump takes office, 16.5 trillion and last year it was 21.5 trillion. In three years, he doubled it with his proAmerican policies and good tax policy. I don't know about you, I'd rather have people have their own money to spend, they do it better.
Your GDP numbers are wrong, at least your end of Obama term ones. The end of fiscal year 2016 gdp was $18.715 trillion.
 

WVUCOOPER

Redshirt
Dec 10, 2002
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We get it, you’re fine with ceding business to China at the expense of our country.
Except that's not how business works. At all. Maybe try and learn instead of just whining that people that don't agree with you and Orange God do so at the expense of their (our) country. :joy::joy::joy::joy: What a pathetic f'n way of thinking. Muh country!!
 

bornaneer

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These are approximated based off closest quarter. As of 1 Dec 0i, s&p was at 735. As of 1 Dec 16 it was 2747. That's a 17.9% rate of growth. On 1 Dec 19, s&p was 3380. That's a 7.2% rate of growth. Just saying.
My portfolio says otherwise.
 

mule_eer

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Well....you need to vote for Bernie if that's how you feel.
How do you make that logical leap? It's not using logic. I'm simply pointing out how basic, accepted economic measures show that folks are painting misleading pictures of our current situation versus the past. Our GDP growth is on par with what we saw under the previous admin. Our stock market growth is a continuation of what we saw under the previous admin. That's not to say that we aren't doing well. It's also not to say that the current admin hasn't made their own imprint and impact on our economy. It is to say that we aren't getting healthier at a faster rate than before. If you want my opinion, anyone who isn't looking at ways to address what is coming in future economies is leading us toward failure. What worked really well 30 years ago will not be a viable model for 30 years from now. Automation is going to change a lot of things, as it has in the past. Yelling about manufacturing jobs is folly. We produce more with fewer people. Same goes for lots of industries. What are we going to do to prepare for even more of that? Bernie doesn't have that answer. Most of the field doesn't.
 

bornaneer

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How do you make that logical leap?
Simple....you are anti anything Trump. You also pick and chose how you want to play the game. If you think that our economy is in the tank because of Trump you should then vote for Bernie.