Final class rankings
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26, 9th in SEC. JR has a breakdown elsewhere where UK's class would've finished in other conferences.
So, my understanding is that this class is now done. Is that right? Are we still actually looking to add others?
Stoops said they were looking to add another. Don't know if that's another today or the Michigan transfer this weekend.
I'm greatly surprised they didn't get another DT, really shorthanded there and will mean Cross and/or Looney will have to play as true freshmen and they're probably not ready.
Thanks. I just saw a "meet the class of 2016" post from 'Stoops Troops' on Twitter and so it seemed to me like we were probably done.
i wouldn't bet against a late qualifier at DT spot being added later this summer if one should arise. or they may just go with what we got this year and try to load up with 2 dt's 1 nt and then try to get provitt back from juco next year. the latter may be the best all around scenario honestly.
Would be really nice if we could get Provitt in here next year.
Despite the gloom and doom after the season ending, this class stuck together. Pretty amazing actually.
Overall, the Cats got better today. Quite a few impact guys, can't wait to see what Robinson can do. That 3 star rating is a joke, kid is gonna be a star!
Despite the gloom and doom after the season ending, this class stuck together. Pretty amazing actually.
Overall, the Cats got better today. Quite a few impact guys, can't wait to see what Robinson can do. That 3 star rating is a joke, kid is gonna be a star!
Unlike 2015, this class had leaders that kept them solid & together. And we didnt have a huge instate recruit tease that they would be joining only to jerk the rug out from under us a couple weeks before signing date. And then proceed to trash and degrade the program, which IMO caused some serious second-guessing by kids who had been solid.
They told recruits that they did not want them to visit just to visit. That it sent the wrong message to other recruits and opened the door. I think this was Looney's issue. Only a couple visited other schools after committing. I think Stoops is right.
Uneventful day. That is a pretty incredible thing for UK.
Uneventful day. That is a pretty incredible thing for UK.
You used to be able to just click at the top to find all kinds of info, now you have to go outside the site to find it, and then they will say you are "offsides" several times. Really disgusting to me, no explanations or anything, recruiting lists (for all teams), stats, schedule, etc etc just gone as far as I know.
Anyway UK is currently 29th with 25 commits, and a 3.0 star standing, with a MUCH more informative 5.600 numerical rating. Looks like UL signed a half dozen two stars and a 5.7 at the last minute, guess BP will have his normal tryouts and run most of them off, the four star Fitz did end up signing up. They ended up with 27 commits, one not rated yet, and in 37th place. Their numerical rating dropped to about a 5.535.
I suspect Iakopo was plan B for Burns. I think BP thought he could reflip Rodjay and he could not.
Stoops is certainly a winner on the recruiting trail and rankings. Now it is time to finally start winning some games when it matters, and beat the Vandy's and UL's of the world and to get to some bowl games starting this coming season.
No...he was Green replacement...Jaquelle Green the 4* who was not going to make it academically...best guess Chris Taylor-Yahamoha will switch from WR to CB...CTY spoke in September that Louisville among others was looking at him as a CB and he actually prefers and wants to play defense.
Rivals has UK 10th in the SEC and 29th overall.
We would be 5th in the ACC, 5th in the Big 12 and 6th in the Big10. We would have been within 2 points of 4th in the Pac12. Just shows how hard it is to move up in the SEC.
We would be 5th in the ACC, 5th in the Big 12 and 6th in the Big10. We would have been within 2 points of 4th in the Pac12. Just shows how hard it is to move up in the SEC.
The more I look at these rankings (players, then between schools' classes), the more I believe it's the biggest pile of crap ever contrived. Glad I'm not paying for that nonsense...the fact that this class gets ranked #29 is just stupid.
Yeah, the SEC is brutal. It is a freaking machine I never see slowing down at this point. Of course one can argue we'd not recruit as well if we were in one of those other conferences (I tend to agree).
Uneventful? Only because there were not final day surprises but the fact that there were no defections and this class stayed together the way it did with some of the future stars in it . .. .that is incredible. Pretend signing day was two weeks after the final game collapse and this may have been called the biggest recruiting coup in history.
Since it only takes wins against the 4 out-of-conference teams and 2 conference opponents to be one of the 80 bowl teams, I think we recruited at least that well, even if not well enough to move up significantly in the SEC. (We are slightly higher than Louisville, and I would assume the other out-of-conferences.)
jauk, don't know if this is exactly what you're referring to ... but IMHO this site has taken a turn for the worse. Maybe it's the popular layout, but most of the info is gone and the site layout looks cheap. JMO. Cheers.
First of all, I agree that these new "Yahoo" formats suck on many levels. Stats are the worse but these recruiting pages are bad as well.
Right now, the Rivals data for the Cards is screwed up. The "team ranking list" presently shows the Cards at #36 based on 23 commits but the "commitments list" shows 27 commits including two 2* walk ons and one unrated WR. I suppose the "class ranking" are accurate because they only use your top 20 recruits.
But if "comparing classes" I like to use "average Rivals Rating" for all recruited players (less kickers) vis a vis "total points" ranking based on just the top 20 prospects. Kickers are evaluated differently (i.e., never more than a 3* prospect) so I usually just eliminate them.
By my counts the Cats average RR is 5.60 on 24 rated recruits (w/o kicker) and the Cards average 5.57 on 23 rated recruits (1 unrated guy and 1 kicker).
Looks pretty close to me.
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NSD is now over...now comes the real part...finding out if you have actual talent that will win your team ball games in your particular league/future schedule...right now the new players coming in are just a bunch of guys...
Right now, UK is ahead of these opponents...Vandy, Mizzo, Miss ST & UL. South Carolina is only slightly ahead of UK. SC has 27 players verses UK's 25 to select their top 20 players from.
If W's & L's were strictly based on Rivals recruiting rankings, then UK would have recruited somewhere around a 7-5 or maybe even an 8-4 team.
If W's & L's were strictly based on Rivals recruiting rankings, then UK would have recruited somewhere around a 7-5 or maybe even an 8-4 team.
Something else in common, I evaluate classes the same way. I think it is silly to use the plain star system if the numbers are available, much more informative. And the players outside the top twenty can have a great influence on how the class turns out, and often the coaches will take lower rated players to fill a need, I know UK has just done quite a bit of that lately.
As you said, Kickers are always underrated, Masthay was a 5.2 and he is still punting for the Packers. Some thought he was a better WR than a punter. In this class UL would gain a few points over UK if you counted them since while both are two stars UL's is a 5.4 and UK's is a 5.2. They should pay more attention to both Kickers and Punters since they are often the difference in the game.