So if the Republicans were pushing these mandates more people would be for it? Why? It would still be the government pushing the mandate.
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Survival rating before a vaccine was even formed was above 99%.
We have lived and benefited greatly from vaccine mandates/requirements for decades. Measles mumps rubella polio etc. are required to enter public schools. must have vaccinations to travel overseas. How idiotic can one be to believe that requiring covid vaccines would not be beneficial to this people of this nation or any other? Get your shots. Save a life! There is a reason the US has 4% of the worlds population and 25% or so of the worlds deaths from covid. There. My rant is over.
Many people were embarrassed about a survey in which Americans were asked to guess what percentage of all cases result in hospitalizations. You would thought that this was the Black Death, based on the numbers. Over 50% of Democrats estimated a 40% rate, but it's actually between 1% and 5%, and others were not much less ignorant. Most Americans estimate the death rate to be around 10%, when the IFR is likely to be about .5% in America and much lower in parts of the world with a younger median age (estimated .1% to .3% for the world at large). The Black Death, this is not.
There’s no false information in that post, you just said the same with “of course you can.” No one is resisting anything for the greater good of all people, that is one hell of a false narrative there though. This begins and ends with you having a choice to do what YOU want, and to accept the consequences such as this coach will likely have to do. The vaccine is to protect the person getting the vaccine, not the people around, everyone else has the same choice, people need to do whatever they feel necessary, quit with the coercion, stfu and move on.
That is the thing the vast majority that get it don’t show symptoms and they end up spreading it without knowing. I would hope no one would willing spread it.
Yes. If republicans we're pushing a mandate, it would still divide the country like it is with Democrats doing it.
The vast majority of coaches are fired "without cause" when fired, and get paid the balance of the contract, e.g., Petrino. Many, like Orgeron, settle. Pruitt is apparently going to sue, because he was fired "with cause". In the case of Rolovich, he is under contract. Unless his contract required vaccination, and I doubt it did, based on when he was hired, he may well have a case. I'm sure his attorneys have a greater grasp of this than you or I do.
I’m sick of hearing about the spread too to be honest, someone doesn’t have to spread it for you to get it, you can just get it as you can get a ton of different illnesses. When I had it they didn’t care where I got it from they were just freaking out about who I may have given it to. Quite obvious the health dept didn’t give a **** where I got it from.
You Coronabros can't have it both ways. If the "vast majority that get it don't show symptoms", then we never needed to lock down the nation, in absolute contravention of Constitutional and human rights, in the first place. The Black Death, this is not.
So was Kennedy. Pretty sure we’ve established that the Pope doesn’t run Americans.
Except, that canard about 4% of the population and 25% of deaths was never true in the first place, because China lied about their deaths and much of the world doesn't have the infrastructure to tabulate the death toll. And now we have officially have 15% of the deaths, anyway, not 25%, and, again, it's likely that the world death toll is much higher than the reported numbers, so our numbers are probably not even 10%, and, by the way, what is the No. 1 risk factor for this disease? Old age. Guess how our median age compares to that of Africa or India- think that might explain why we have a higher death rate? My rant it over.
What about those he could possibly come in contact with that are either to young to be vaccinated or can’t be vaccinated for medical reasons. They have zero choice. He could very well have it not know and pass it on to someone and they die. That is being selfish. The lies and misinformation has been put out there. It gives you Covid. Lie. It makes you magnetic. Lie. And many other lies they the people who need to be studying and trying to understand how and why the virus does what it does have to take time to debunk instead of trying to lead us out of this.
Do you care to expand on this? Hopefully, I am just not understanding what you are saying.
So he should have to destroy everything he has worked for over a possibility that he could spread it to someone else, but in this same thread, you admitted that people who get vaccinated can still spread it. Ummm.........
The percentage of people who cannot get the vaccine is very very low, and young healthy children have about the same chances of dying from Covid, probably about the same as the percentage dying of Covid that have the vaccine. At one point, and it’s obviously gonna be much worse now, the number of children murdered in Chicago this year is higher than the amount of children under 17 who had died from Covid in the UNITED STATES. Nearly everyone who has or had the opportunity to be vaccinated made a choice, very few people can’t get it. It is time to move on.
Agree with your post in general, but the chances of a healthy child dying are actually MUCH lower than a vaccinated adult. In fact the flu is deadlier to kids.
By the time this is all said and done we will have all been exposed to the virus, it’s not about someone spreading it to you, it is literally you either get it or you get lucky and don’t. When I tested positive and the health dept called they weren’t even concerned where I may have contracted it but who I was around(which is understandable, to make sure they didn’t contract it), in my case it was my mom, my dad, and my barber and a couple guys at work, let’s say 7 people total. I spent 2 days with my parents at home before I could get tested, I had a mild cough, sneezed a couple times, touched fridge handles, etc. neither of my parents ever got it, I tested positive that 2nd day and immediately quarantined, went to my room, and didn’t leave it for 7 days. The day I first had symptoms I had been at the barber shop right before I called into work 2 hours later because I developed a crazy migraine, barber with his hand on my face, head, no mask within a foot of me didn’t get it either, but it cost him 2 weeks of his livelihood when he never got it, the 4 guys at work I was around never contracted it either and they missed a bunch of work because of it. That was August of 2020, I am unvaccinated, 28 years old, pretty healthy besides being about 8-10 lbs overweight, been around 35-60000 people 10 times in the last year, I’ve worked everyday since May of last year, I have lived my life as normal as possible since I had it, and haven’t gotten it again. So I haven’t spread it to anyone, I never put anyone in danger because of recklessness, as far as I’m concerned I’m naturally immune now, but I got sick a few weeks ago, wasn’t around anyone, took a test out of precaution, was negative, so I went on with work and life. This may be my most pointless post ever to be honest, because both my parents are vaccinated, a lot of my friends are vaccinated, a lot of people I love and respect are vaccinated and that goes the same for unvaccinated. I could give 2 ***** what people wanna do to try and protect themself, my problems began with the coercion because it’s not suggesting anymore, it’s shaming, and coercing, and putting as much pressure and force on people as they can. For me it all remains the same, if you want it go get it, if you don’t you then dont, let’s move on, the government isn’t going to let Covid stop until they’re finished doing whatever they’re doing.
Our lord and savior Fauci says we should get many shots so that’s what I do. I only listen to him.
I had heard a rumor that I think was created by the far right that you could still get covid and spread it even as a vaccinated person. It’s probably a lie created by the Proud Boys at Trump’s request.
I got the vaccine and I know I’m basically a superhero now.
Getting a vaccine, or not getting a vaccine doesn't effect public health. Hospitals, unless they're in extremely rural areas are ok. Therefore, public health absolutely isn't effected by vaccination choice. It prepares the immune system of the person who takes it. That's all. So this "greater good" you speak of isn't a thing.
This!!! It's like everyone of a certain segment of population has completely forgotten what a vaccine does, and doesn't do.
If the law says you have to be vaccinated I'm pretty sure that supercedes a contract.
It's an governor's edict, not a law, but I'm sure that the courts will ultimately sort this out. I seriously doubt that Rolovich's attorneys are wasting their time, here, and I suspect that there will ultimately be a settlement of some sort. As for Rolovich, I would guess that he finds his way to a SEC staff (easy to envision someone like Leach or Kiffin giving him a job), or perhaps a Sun Belt head coaching job. He's a good coach, and I wish him the best.
From what I'm reading on various Twitter threads, the players on that team are, to a man, displeased by this firing, but then again, there aren't necessarily a lot of Coronabros on the gridiron in the first place. On the other hand, most sportswriters, especially Dan Woken, liked the firing.
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It's not a law. I hope he doesn't settle and goes all the way to the state with this.
You want to force a jab on someone and threaten their livelihoods (gee, how caring), force kids in masks all day, destroy businesses, sacrifice years for people, mess with child development, give government more and more power over the people to satisfy your neurosis over a virus that has a 99% survival rate and you call someone else selfish?Just admit you’re not capable of thinking for yourself and would rather corrupt politicians and Big Pharma to do it for you.
You continue to get played. Turn off your TV and realize how often you’re being lied to and stop directing your nonsense toward those who have enough sense to not trust bad people.
Oh, and you mention research. What excuse do you have for Israel, hm? How about Harvard? How about New York? How about the leaders you idolize not following their own BS? How about Congress being exempt? I hate to break it to you but the government does not care for your safety. They like money, power, and control.
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I don't think American Catholics pay much attention to what the pope says. Joe Biden being the prime example.
Oh, so now we can just claim anything is religious and do what we want? Is that what the Constitution says?
Well the Supreme Court has already basically said mandates are legal. Not sure where he is going to find this support for his position.
We'll start here....
Truth Being Ignored - Victoria Australia Records 867 New COVID Cases, 375 in Hospital and 95% of Those Hospitalized are Vaccinated - The Last Refuge
Pay close attention to what Victoria, Australia, Health Minister Martin Foley says at the 2:45 minute mark of his comments. Health Minister Foley announced 867 new COVID cases recorded yesterday. During the statistical outline Foley identifies 375 people as hospitalized, 81 people in intensive...
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There is, indeed, a lot of lies and false info being peddled.....your line about, "admit they are selfish and unwilling to sacrifice for the greater good of all people" sounds as if it could have been ripped from Chapter 1 of the Communist Manifesto. These articles pretty much reflect the trend all around the world for those reporting info (and if the info sees the light of day in the media)...
Truth Being Ignored - Victoria Australia Records 867 New COVID Cases, 375 in Hospital and 95% of Those Hospitalized are Vaccinated - The Last Refuge
Pay close attention to what Victoria, Australia, Health Minister Martin Foley says at the 2:45 minute mark of his comments. Health Minister Foley announced 867 new COVID cases recorded yesterday. During the statistical outline Foley identifies 375 people as hospitalized, 81 people in intensive...
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So glad yet another virus/vaccine thread has started. I wonder if any new opinions will be expressed?
My guess is "NO", SOS for 3 or 4 pages. Anyone want to bet?
My guess is "NO", SOS for 3 or 4 pages. Anyone want to bet?
If you start talking about forcing medical procedures on people for "the common good," or shaming them to get an experimental medical treatment for "the common good," CONGRATULATIONS, you're communist scum.
All he had to do was comply and it wouldn’t have been a problem. Rolovich is just being a troublemaker.
Of course not. But that wasn't my point, and any skilled fact checker should have realized that. Religious freedom is not unlimited; for example, I am not going to be allowed to rob a bank, and argue that my religion allows me to do that. But, to the extent we do have freedom of religion under the Constitution, it is not conditioned on what a specific religious leader defines it to be, which is the point that I was trying to make in the first place, and which you apparently either misunderstood or intentionally distorted.
By the way, as it happened here, Rolovich's religious objection actually was accepted, per ESPN, but the issue was that, even with that, it was apparently determined that it could not be accommodated under the specific circumstances of his job duties.
That's a good point. Or, if Washington St. had the type of rabid fanbase that, say, Tennessee, has; imagine the reaction from that (not that I'm saying WSU doesn't probably have a lot of hardcore fans, but I don't think it's the same as it is at some other places), or, instead of a being a fairly promising up-and-comer, Rolovich was already a coaching legend.