FIT.Y.E.R.O. (Meathead, wellness, fitness, diet, exercise) Thread

[ROGUE_]

I remember during Covid articles saying that gyms and gym goers are a breeding ground for Nazis and white power movements, ummmm okay. People that regularly go to the gym tend to be the nicest people around in my experience. In 20+ years of serious gyming I’ve never been recruited. Maybe it’s me…sad.

Damn if anth is 15.4% (no hate that’s awesome) I need a new scale, mine says 18.2% which is bs lol. It also estimated I have 39.7 pounds of fat… . I’d bet it’s half that at best. Gotta get to that dexascan soon.

 

[anthonys735]

I remember during Covid articles saying that gyms and gym goers are a breeding ground for Nazis and white power movements, ummmm okay. People that regularly go to the gym tend to be the nicest people around in my experience. In 20+ years of serious gyming I’ve never been recruited. Maybe it’s me…sad.

Damn if anth is 15.4% (no hate that’s awesome) I need a new scale, mine says 18.2% which is bs lol. It also estimated I have 39.7 pounds of fat… . I’d bet it’s half that at best. Gotta get to that dexascan soon.

You definitely need a new scale. You're 10-12 at most.

 

[Joey Rupption]

- I use a RENPHO scale and it has an “Athlete” setting to dial in things like BF. It suggests to use it if you have a resting HR below 60, do intense workouts 5 days a week, etc. (I don’t use it.) I don’t really need the precision. I just want the accuracy to understand trends.

- I’m dropping weight a little too fast (2.6lbs/wk since mid July) and will be dialing up the kcals accordingly. McFlurries here I come!

- Last week, my wife mentioned something about the Y pool being closed for maintenance coming up, but I didn’t have any follow-up questions. Wednesday, took my pre-swim rinse and found the door locked. Dried off, got changed, asked the front desk and ended up with a brisk, dark, 6:10am swim in the outdoor pool. The indoor pool is always too hot in the spring/summer/fall since they lost the key to adjust it, apparently. So it actually was pretty nice.

- I’ve got a fun knee rehab goal for this time next year. Last year, I backpacked Wind River Range with the some buddies who were fly fishing for the elusive golden trout in those tippy-top lakes for a few days. I just had lunch with a buddy road tripping from TX to NY a new motorcycle he bought done there. We’re going to get another Wyoming expedition on the calendar for next year.

 

[ROGUE_]

Resting HR below 60 I wish man, my **** is unfortunately in the 80s resting during the day, no idea what it is during sleep. The good news is it doesn’t increase by that much more when I vigorously exercise. I can get to 95% max HR without dying.

Have a coronary CTA coming up in October with calcium score to make sure there’s no blockage in my heart which the card says he’s 90+% sure there isn’t but wants to be sure. The wrench in there is that all my doctors are through BayCare Health which is in a disagreement with Florida Blue and their contract expires at the end of September. So we shall see. I’m 99% sure there’s not one as doing those Norwegian 4x4s on stairs and I’m fine but if they’re going to post for it sure why not.

 

[warrior-cat]

My resting heart rate (have not checked in a couple of months) was sometimes under 60. Probably need to check it along with blood pressure as I have done neither since I went off of my bp meds in early spring this year. Tried to get a refill by calling it in to my doctor's office with the receptionist saying ok and I could check the following day only to find it did not happen which in 3 straight tries got me the same response so, I quit trying.


Edited: Just decided to check my BP since I have not in so long and it was at 135/77 and pulse at 69.

 

[ROGUE_]

My resting heart rate (have not checked in a couple of months) was sometimes under 60. Probably need to check it along with blood pressure as I have done neither since I went off of my bp meds in early spring this year. Tried to get a refill by calling it in to my doctor's office with the receptionist saying ok and I could check the following day only to find it did not happen which in 3 straight tries got me the same response so, I quit trying.


Edited: Just decided to check my BP since I have not in so long and it was at 135/77 and pulse at 69.

My BP is a little lower than yours on BP meds but when I come off then it’s about the same. The card said he plans on me off them just was trying to give my header as much time to heal as possible with minimal stress. We’re about to the point where the healing is done and that’s what the CTA is for, to make sure there’s no blockage and we can just go in maintenance mode now.

 

[anthonys735]

Not uncommon on days after a long bike ride for my RHR to be 39-41.

 

[UK-Chulo]

Not uncommon on days after a long bike ride for my RHR to be 39-41.

 

[Kooky Kats]

My BP on Losartan/Metformin was always still high with a diastolic always around 95 ON MEDS.

Today, not so much. With zero meds since Feb.

 

[ROGUE_]

Lisinopril and metoprolol for me. Days I forget it which is very rare, usually traveling, I’ve taken it and it’s not any different. So like I was saying hopefully coming off them soon.

 

[warrior-cat]

Lisinopril and metoprolol for me. Days I forget it which is very rare, usually traveling, I’ve taken it and it’s not any different. So like I was saying hopefully coming off them soon.

Those were the 2 I was on (not at the same time). 2 1/2 years ago, I was lying in Bed (midday) watching a movie when I experienced chest pains. Waited until subsiding and then after wife gets home I check BP. 212/120 (something like that) and waited a couple of hours more before checking again, then going to hospital. Got at the Hospital about 9pm and was there undergoing test until 3am. Doctor there put me on Metoprolol. My doctor agreed and kept me on it until I could see a cardiologist.

About a month later (had to wait that long for cardiologist appointment) the card doc put me on lisinopril. It was their office that I tried to get refills and then just decided to stop all together when they kept telling me it was done but never was. Hopefully, I can keep it (BP) down now with exercise and better eating habits (My biggest challenge).

 

[Kennedy_UK]

Sunday ride:

40.4mi
2:05 moving
2:23 total
19.3mph
217 watts avg
1,030 ft gained
152bpm

Crashed hard the last 5mi or so. But felt good otherwise.

I hit 49-51 for my resting HR pretty regularly. And I’m still a fat *** at 225lbs.

 

[anthonys735]

Sunday ride:

40.4mi
2:05 moving
2:23 total
19.3mph
217 watts avg
1,030 ft gained
152bpm

Crashed hard the last 5mi or so. But felt good otherwise.

I hit 49-51 for my resting HR pretty regularly. And I’m still a fat *** at 225lbs.

Are you putting in carbs during your ride?

 

[Kennedy_UK]

Yes. Packed along some honey stingers. Probably could’ve used another pack.

Was at 19.8mph average at the 30mi mark. The fade was real. Though, to be fair, there was 400ft of climbing the last 10mi. Hit 7% grade a few times. I didn’t like that.

 

[anthonys735]

Try some ketone IQ and/or cyclic dextrine in with your hydration drink during your ride.

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[pretzel__logic]

- holy crap, Anth. If my RHR is less than 60 I feel so enervated I am basically worthless the whole day. 65 is my norm and it spikes into the low-mid 70s due to hormones/bad sleep pretty reliably. weirdly, it didn't spike during pregnancy?

- Baby went from being a pretty excellent sleeper to suddenly waking up in the wee hours of the morning again. I am dead. I can handle wakeups anytime before about 3:30, but for some reason that's my witching hour, and trying to wake up to do anything between 3:30-6 makes me feel like I'm going to die while I'm awake and then the whole day following. I know a lot of moms do their workouts before their kids wake up, but that ain't ever gonna be me. Means the evenings are really packed right now, but...oh well, I guess. It be like that.

- For those of you who hate people videoing lifts, let me give you an alternate perspective. I video most of my main lifts to check form. Bench and squat have rebounded from baby really well and are progressing, but deadlift has regressed lately. I sent a couple videos to friends of mine who are coaches/licensed PTs to help me troubleshoot, and they spotted the issue immediately (my left arm is slightly bent, so my left trap isn't depressing and engaging the way it needs to - probably related to the neck problems I had from maternity leave). I started addressing that and literally, first session with the fixes they suggested, the lift felt astronomically better. I'm not cured, but finally back on track to building instead of stumbling backwards. So tl;dr, videos can help.

 

[Kooky Kats]

One good thing about a job you loathe, you look forward to a torturous 5:15am gym session. I killed it today…

getting stronger.

my scale must be broken… BF% way up. Need a real Dexa scan.

 

[anthonys735]

One good thing about a job you loathe, you look forward to a torturous 5:15am gym session. I killed it today…

getting stronger.

my scale must be broken… BF% way up. Need a real Dexa scan.

Don't freak out. Stay the course. BF fluctuations are normal. Hydration plays a huge part. Stay the course and put on muscle.

 

[anthonys735]

- holy crap, Anth. If my RHR is less than 60 I feel so enervated I am basically worthless the whole day. 65 is my norm and it spikes into the low-mid 70s due to hormones/bad sleep pretty reliably. weirdly, it didn't spike during pregnancy?

- Baby went from being a pretty excellent sleeper to suddenly waking up in the wee hours of the morning again. I am dead. I can handle wakeups anytime before about 3:30, but for some reason that's my witching hour, and trying to wake up to do anything between 3:30-6 makes me feel like I'm going to die while I'm awake and then the whole day following. I know a lot of moms do their workouts before their kids wake up, but that ain't ever gonna be me. Means the evenings are really packed right now, but...oh well, I guess. It be like that.

- For those of you who hate people videoing lifts, let me give you an alternate perspective. I video most of my main lifts to check form. Bench and squat have rebounded from baby really well and are progressing, but deadlift has regressed lately. I sent a couple videos to friends of mine who are coaches/licensed PTs to help me troubleshoot, and they spotted the issue immediately (my left arm is slightly bent, so my left trap isn't depressing and engaging the way it needs to - probably related to the neck problems I had from maternity leave). I started addressing that and literally, first session with the fixes they suggested, the lift felt astronomically better. I'm not cured, but finally back on track to building instead of stumbling backwards. So tl;dr, videos can help.

Dad and MCF are even lower. Mom's is low too. Between the cardio and genetics it stays low.

If the little one doesn't come out of that leap hit up Sloot. I'm not lying when I say the best $300 I ever spent was on a sleep trainer for #1. It was honestly life changing. We went 8 months with just a couple hours sleep. It was miserable and she straight up had it fixed in 3 nights.

 

[ROGUE_]

5 minute warmup on stairmaster today followed by 95 floors in 20 minutes, average HR was 160. I could’ve gone 30 but had things to do. I am really liking splicing up lifting days, every other or every 2nd or 3rd is now a stairs day whether Publix stairs 4x4 or gym stairmaster for 20-30 minutes. Trying to really get a good SvO2 these days. It sucks going but I feel way better overall the last few weeks/months adding them in and giving my body more recovery time between strength training.

Hopefully will decrease my HR in the long run as well.

 

[anthonys735]

We've been doing some cool stuff lately. Sticking with full body but instead of 3 of the same sets per body part we'll hit 1 or 2 sets of different focuses.

Example:
2 x DB Bench
1 x DB Flys

1 x DB Fly
1 x DB Incline Press
1 x Seated Cable Press

Really good for my mentality and hitting different planes.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Anyone try a 36-hour fast?

if so, results?

 

[Johnnie Africa]

Anyone try a 36-hour fast?

if so, results?

I had a buddy where he and his wife did a fast (can’t remember how long) every spring to “reset their body” and they would always say they could taste the over abundance of salt in food afterwards and it would help them eat healthier. I always thought that sounded insane and I personally see no point but whatever.

 

[Kooky Kats]

There’s some science behind it… I saw this vid and several others with different corroborating studies.

im curious. That’s all.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Anyone try a 36-hour fast?

Yeah, last time I was imprisoned at Auschwitz.

Buddy, from outside looking in, it appears like you are exhausting yourself with too much volume, too little sleep/ too much stress, and chasing too many rabbits when it comes to fitness.

When is the last time you got 8+ hours of sleep for a week straight? Are you taking a walk daily? You've mentioned you hate your job. That daily (hourly?) stress is quite likely having more effect of your body than skipping food for a day and a half ever would. Could you work from home a day or two a week to cut down on the commute and office disruptions to productivity?

You've achieved something remarkable. If I recall correctly, you've lost 2/3 thirds of ME in bodyweight -- and I'm almost exactly average height/weight. The results are going to be less dramatic now and they will come slower but that does not they are any less important.

I worry you're going to burn yourself out chasing all these different overly intense methods and lose the phenomenal progress you've made. You're married -- who really gives a **** if you have a six pack in your fifties?

 

[anthonys735]

Yeah, when you get used to major win after major win in an absolute monster body transformation like KK the monotony in maintaining it can drive you wild. Can't cut forever. So you're terrified of increasing calories, I still fight this, and just keep spinning wheels. I get it COMPLETELY. I've done it all. Looked for every single magic bullet and gadget or fad. I haven't yest fasted for days at a time. Eff that.

Please don't fast for 3 days.

IMO,

Aim for ~2500 calories.
Lift 3x week.
1 tough cardio day.
Walk the other days OR just be active. Go out and play ball with your kiddo. Whatever.
Weigh in 1x per month unless you're on a cut.
Set a circuit breaker. Like if I hit (x) BF then I'm gonna cut. For me that 18-20% WoW. If you're floating around 20, then make it 25%. By that time you'll be ready to hit the teens on your next cut, hopefully next spring.

Find something you're weak at and make that your goal to exchange for the goals and progress you just made.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Technically, a 36 hour fast is a day and a half, not 3 days. To Kooky's credit, that's not as crazy as a 3 day fast but the general point does not change. Also (of course), we are picking on you @KookyKats because we are rooting for you.

It has been a crazy week in the Camacho household. My wife and I rearranged a lot of things to make sure we both got in 3 kettlebell workouts and a daily walk despite the chaos. I have no idea what I ate this week but those workouts and walks kept me sane.

@anthonys735 you still doing Turkish get ups?

 

[anthonys735]

Yup. Hitting it at least once a week. Same with pull ups, farmers walks, sledge hammer, deadlifts. May add some box jumps in as cycling season winds down.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Nice. What kind of weights are you using on the TGUs, out of curiosity?

We alternate doing them either once or twice per week. I have been doing one on each side with 8k (18lb), 12k (26 lbs), 16k (35 lbs), and 20k (44 lbs). I keep my focus strictly on form and I'm going to be very hesitant to jump up to the 24k (53 lb) until I feel locked in with the 20k. I treat it almost as a diagnostic to see where I'm getting feeling sore and otherwise how I am moving under load (the "Vern's mom", if you will).

I am going to start using the 32k (70 lb) bell for the first time next week on Cook Drill carries. That's the a waiter's carry, rack carry, and suitcase carry with each hand before you put the bell down. I started the year doing it with the 20k. Slowly but surely, I'm getting stronger. I've put on 4 pounds since June. It feels mainly muscle. I don't trust my bathroom scale when it comes to BF% so I'm going to wait a few months and go back to UK to get my body fat percentage tested. I'm fine with maintaining where I am at if the scale is going up at the same time, tbh.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Technically, a 36 hour fast is a day and a half, not 3 days. To Kooky's credit, that's not as crazy as a 3 day fast but the general point does not change. Also (of course), we are picking on you @KookyKats because we are rooting for you.

Appreciate the concern/razzing/support. I’m a retard. I know.

But if the architecture school mindfück experience taught me anything, it was how to test my limits and curiosity. I am enjoying the ride and doubling down on effort. I like the way I look, but love the way I feel. I won’t burn out. Promise. Just can’t injure myself.

For science purposes only, I’m balls deep in it already…I just need to snooze … wake up at 6:30am and my 36-hour fast is completed. Today, I feasted on an espresso, 4 bottles of water, my supplement stack and some green tea. Not too rigorous when you are busy.

The shitbird Yankees are giving me no reason to stay awake anyway.

Will report findings…if any.

 

[anthonys735]

Technically, a 36 hour fast is a day and a half, not 3 days. To Kooky's credit, that's not as crazy as a 3 day fast but the general point does not change. Also (of course), we are picking on you @KookyKats because we are rooting for you.

It has been a crazy week in the Camacho household. My wife and I rearranged a lot of things to make sure we both got in 3 kettlebell workouts and a daily walk despite the chaos. I have no idea what I ate this week but those workouts and walks kept me sane.

@anthonys735 you still doing Turkish get ups?

Math hard

 

[Kooky Kats]

Fast over. 40hrs and just water.

feel ok.

-5lbs of whatever… BF% up: <~~ dumbass. Perhaps the results or benefits will come in a week of good eating and working out.

no more junk volume in workouts. 2 sets of whatever, 8-6 rep range max.

took doggie on 2.5m walk. Went to farm
For maters, peaches and corn. Espresso, cappuccino…. Grilled chicken kebabs and tzatziki post Cat game.

Going out to breakfast.

 

[Kooky Kats]

This guy is dope

 

[warrior-cat]

Yeah, last time I was imprisoned at Auschwitz.

Buddy, from outside looking in, it appears like you are exhausting yourself with too much volume, too little sleep/ too much stress, and chasing too many rabbits when it comes to fitness.

When is the last time you got 8+ hours of sleep for a week straight? Are you taking a walk daily? You've mentioned you hate your job. That daily (hourly?) stress is quite likely having more effect of your body than skipping food for a day and a half ever would. Could you work from home a day or two a week to cut down on the commute and office disruptions to productivity?

You've achieved something remarkable. If I recall correctly, you've lost 2/3 thirds of ME in bodyweight -- and I'm almost exactly average height/weight. The results are going to be less dramatic now and they will come slower but that does not they are any less important.

I worry you're going to burn yourself out chasing all these different overly intense methods and lose the phenomenal progress you've made. You're married -- who really gives a **** if you have a six pack in your fifties?

Yeah, just a couple of days ago, I myself started thinking about all of the fitness and strength training ways for older people to help do this or do that and found myself incorporating too many new ways to gain muscle/strength and lose weight. I have been watching a lot of videos and have also found that some will say this is the best way only to find someone else saying that will not work you need to do this. I will choose the ones most comfortable (not injuring/hurting myself) and just go from there.

Weight loss is my biggest challenge, and I am slowly going down over the last couple of years from the 230 plus pounds I was in the picture I posted a few weeks back to weighing in at 199lbs this morning. Pictured below is 202lbs 11 August this year. Oh, and by the way, I am trying to get that Nordic Warrior look with the beard.

 

[rick64]

Let's include a little humor.

 

[Hank Camacho]

Weight loss is my biggest challenge, and I am slowly going down over the last couple of years from the 230 plus pounds I was in the picture I posted a few weeks back to weighing in at 199lbs this morning. Pictured below is 202lbs 11 August this year.

Looking great! Fat loss is my bane, too.

Your approach reminds me of my boy Dan John's. He set out to lose half a pound of fat a month. That isn't much but if you do it every month it adds up. You can look at videos of him during the pandemic and video now and the difference is remarkable. Slow and steady ain't sexy but it wins the race nearly every single time.

 

[warrior-cat]

Looking great! Fat loss is my bane, too.

Your approach reminds me of my boy Dan John's. He set out to lose half a pound of fat a month. That isn't much but if you do it every month it adds up. You can look at videos of him during the pandemic and video now and the difference is remarkable. Slow and steady ain't sexy but it wins the race nearly every single time.

At 68 it takes a bit longer, but I need to get to a good weight for running the bases. Played 4 games this past Saturday in a tournament in Lawton OK and either pulled/strained or tore a calf muscle in my left leg in the 4th game because I could not continue. Probably strained even though I felt something pop, because there is no discoloration just soreness and swelling.

Can still get around and am back to walking the monster (145lb Anatolian Shepherd/Pyrenees mix) in the mornings. Albeit with a limp and very slowly.

 

[ROGUE_]

So I’ve had a left calf pain for about 4-5 days. I believe it’s from hitting the stairs every 2-3 days in between workouts. It feels like a shin split but in my back upper calf. Maybe it’s a tendon or ligament from overuse that’s inflamed. I’ve stayed off it for the most part just walking around and felt a bit better this morning, then I had a stress test for the fire dept and ran for ten minutes and it hurts like hell all over again.

Any experience or ideas to heal it besides stay off of it? I’ve cupped it, I’ve massage gunned it etc, and nothing has made a significant difference. I’m worried I’m going to have to do the dreaded “rest it for a week or two” plan.

and just read warrior cat is having a calf problem too.

 

[Kooky Kats]

Swap out your shoes/trainers.

 

[warrior-cat]

So I’ve had a left calf pain for about 4-5 days. I believe it’s from hitting the stairs every 2-3 days in between workouts. It feels like a shin split but in my back upper calf. Maybe it’s a tendon or ligament from overuse that’s inflamed. I’ve stayed off it for the most part just walking around and felt a bit better this morning, then I had a stress test for the fire dept and ran for ten minutes and it hurts like hell all over again.

Any experience or ideas to heal it besides stay off of it? I’ve cupped it, I’ve massage gunned it etc, and nothing has made a significant difference. I’m worried I’m going to have to do the dreaded “rest it for a week or two” plan.

and just read warrior cat is having a calf problem too.

Yeah, mine happened during a co-ed tournament softball game this past Saturday. Was pitching in our 4th game of the day (was about 1030pm) and there was a pop up out of bounds behind the plate. Our catcher did not move (don't think she saw it) so I took off as fast as I could and pushed off of my left foot when I felt a pop and that was that. Could not continue so, I hobbled to the dugout and was finished. Had felt a twinge earlier in the week (Thursday) during some sprints after a leg workout but stretched it out and thought it was ok. Turns out not to be ok it seems.

Don't think it is a tear since there is no discoloration which I am thankful for. Will see in a few days if it starts to get better.