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It will be interesting to see if Fitz & MSU can benefit at all from the blowup and chaos with UM. Seems like MSU could pick up some in-state players.

I also wonder if Michigan is facing any sanctions from the BigTen and/or the NCAA. As probes and legal actions progress, will actions/inactions by UM athletics and college administrators be questioned? Could get ugly for UM, or is their football program “too big to fail”? Will UM only be faced with limited investigations?
They are a legit criminal program and should be sanctioned heavily but they have a lot of rich donors so probably won’t happen.
 

Fanaticat98

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I mean, this is essentially a Moore issue. I’m not really sure why the NCAA or Conference would need to step in? It’s essentially an HR issue?
It is definitely not just a Moore issue. That’s what UM will love everyone to think, to throw him under the bus. Obviously what he chose to do was his responsibility but there is a pattern of lack of institutional control here, especially if it is confirmed that others knew about this for a long time.

It seems that the totality of what has gone down at Michigan the last few years goes from the top down, so I don’t see how UM itself can be trusted to police itself because they’re going to cover it up or find scapegoats to throw under the bus. That’s a role the NCAA could have here.

 
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AdamOnFirst

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It is definitely not just a Moore issue. That’s what UM will love everyone to think, to throw him under the bus. Obviously what he chose to do was his responsibility but there is a pattern of lack of institutional control here, especially if it is confirmed that others knew about this for a long time.

It seems that the totality of what has gone down at Michigan the last few years goes from the top down, so I don’t see how UM itself can be trusted to police itself because they’re going to cover it up or find scapegoats to throw under the bus. That’s a role the NCAA could have here.

Except, again, what NCAA does Sherrone Moore committing HR violations with an employee violate? The NCAA isn’t Michigan HR. It can’t even police what its own players are making for contracts, it has no role in what occurred between Moore and the assistant. The NCAA isn’t some magical police entity for colleges, this has nothing to do with them.

Now, is Michigan gonna get sued again and have to write a check to this girl? Duh. Or at least probably, sounds like she only flipped recently.
 
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Fanaticat98

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Except, again, what NCAA does Sherrone Moore committing HR violations with an employee violate? The NCAA isn’t Michigan HR. It can’t even police what its own players are making for contracts, it has no role in what occurred between Moore and the assistant. The NCAA isn’t some magical police entity for colleges, this has nothing to do with them.

Now, is Michigan gonna get sued again and have to write a check to this girl? Duh. Or at least probably, sounds like she only flipped recently.
The article I linked details the multiple poorly handled situations throughout the athletic department, which fall under competition (sign stealing), MULTIPLE workplace sexual and other harassment (Title IX) across different programs, and so on. If U Mich is sitting on this then isn’t this something the NCAA may get involved in handing down sanctions, postseason bans, scholarship reductions etc? Or don’t they do that anymore.
 

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It is definitely not just a Moore issue. That’s what UM will love everyone to think, to throw him under the bus. Obviously what he chose to do was his responsibility but there is a pattern of lack of institutional control here, especially if it is confirmed that others knew about this for a long time.

It seems that the totality of what has gone down at Michigan the last few years goes from the top down, so I don’t see how UM itself can be trusted to police itself because they’re going to cover it up or find scapegoats to throw under the bus. That’s a role the NCAA could have here.

You’re just describing in house HR violations. I can’t see the NCAA really punishing them.

We were accused of rampant hazing and some light sexual assault within our football program and the NCAA didn’t come calling with some big punishment. I think you’ll see the same self-policing within UM and that’s it.
 

Catmandoo78

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The article I linked details the multiple poorly handled situations throughout the athletic department, which fall under competition (sign stealing), MULTIPLE workplace sexual and other harassment (Title IX) across different programs, and so on. If U Mich is sitting on this then isn’t this something the NCAA may get involved in handing down sanctions, postseason bans, scholarship reductions etc? Or don’t they do that anymore.
NCAA already handed out their punishment for the sign stealing stuff.
 
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katatonic2

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It will be interesting to see if Fitz & MSU can benefit at all from the blowup and chaos with UM. Seems like MSU could pick up some in-state players.

I also wonder if Michigan is facing any sanctions from the BigTen and/or the NCAA. As probes and legal actions progress, will actions/inactions by UM athletics and college administrators be questioned? Could get ugly for UM, or is their football program “too big to fail”? Will UM only be faced with limited investigations?

Zero reason whatsoever. This is an HR issue and personal criminal issue.

While agree with the latter, both the NCAA and conference hit PSU with sanctions over the Sandusky abuse scandal which was a criminal case.
 
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I believe it is too early to tell what actions the BigTen and the NCAA might take against Michigan. Some have suggested that the AD and UM administration were probably aware of the relationship between the coach and the staff member. It seems possible that the old saying of “when did the UM administration know about this and when did fhey acf” could potentially be a factor in investigations and further actions or sanctions against UM. This could be swept under the rug or further blow up, esp now since the situation went from an HR issue to a criminal act with the coach ending up in jail and being charged.
 

katatonic2

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^ Apparently, Michigan knew that there was something going on for months, but didn't take action at that time because an investigation reportedly failed to bring up any concrete evidence.

Really don't see how this is something the NCAA should be involved in even if there seems to be a pattern of lack of institutional control.
 

TheC

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I believe it is too early to tell what actions the BigTen and the NCAA might take against Michigan. Some have suggested that the AD and UM administration were probably aware of the relationship between the coach and the staff member. It seems possible that the old saying of “when did the UM administration know about this and when did fhey acf” could potentially be a factor in investigations and further actions or sanctions against UM. This could be swept under the rug or further blow up, esp now since the situation went from an HR issue to a criminal act with the coach ending up in jail and being charged.
I think our own coach firing story shows us how careful a university has to be when it decides to fire a coach for cause. Millions of dollars are at stake. I can understand why any university would want to take its time to make sure all the i's are dotted before making that move.