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The only way Riley is retained is if he wins out, or maybe wins 3 and plays PSU close. A blowout loss in Happy Valley, or loss at home to NW or Iowa, or losing to a bad Minnesota team - any of those things should seal his fate.

His fate is sealed, too late. The people all want Frost now.
 

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Go research his hires at Wazzu. Leach is the only good one out of any of them in a main sport. Most did worse than the prior coach.

First, I am only concerned bout football right now and he did a great job with the football program at both Oregon and WSU. Secondly, if we must talk about other sports right now, Ernie Kent went to the elite 8 at Oregon, which was a pretty good hire.
 
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You are assuming NU is serious about bringing him home. Frost can’t wait and play the what if game if Florida is ready to move.

Yep, being proactive means something with a December signing day. That last Saturday of the year Florida will already have had informal conversations with Frosts agent, will have contracts prepped, asst coach salary pools determined, etc.

@4.6.3 - You’re turning “step away from the ledge” into an excuse for Moos to twiddle his thumbs and wait to start moving until the Saturday after thanksgiving. UF will be watching the ink dry and we’ll be just starting to ping his agent for the first time.
 

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First, I am only concerned bout football right now and he did a great job with the football program at both Oregon and WSU. Secondly, if we must talk about other sports right now, Ernie Kent went to the elite 8 at Oregon, which was a pretty good hire.
Ernie Kent has been a complete flop at Wazzu.
 
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First, I am only concerned bout football right now and he did a great job with the football program at both Oregon and WSU. Secondly, if we must talk about other sports right now, Ernie Kent went to the elite 8 at Oregon, which was a pretty good hire.
I wasn’t aware Moos ever hired a coach at Oregon. What did he do with the Oregon football program besides get ran off by Phil Knight who has an open check book.
 

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Moos will not be proactive.
I agree and disagree. I think he is working behind the scenes, much like he did when he secured Leach before firing Wolfe at WSU. But I agree the December signing period will change things and we may behind the 8-ball on that.
 
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Yep, being proactive means something with a December signing day. That last Saturday of the year Florida will already have had informal conversations with Frosts agent, will have contracts prepped, asst coach salary pools determined, etc.

@4.6.3 - You’re turning “step away from the ledge” into an excuse for Moos to twiddle his thumbs and wait to start moving until the Saturday after thanksgiving. UF will be watching the ink dry and we’ll be just starting to ping his agent for the first time.
That’s where it goes back to the point that Riley might not be fired after the season. If his fate has been decided, fire him and start moving on your target. We will likely get sloppy seconds.
Maybe we can bring in fat boy at Arkansas or Sumlin and help another unversity out.
 
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I agree and disagree. I think he is working behind the scenes, much like he did when he secured Leach before firing Wolfe at WSU. But I agree the December signing period will change things and we may behind the 8-ball on that.

He’s not, pretty simple to see given he’s said he refuses to make decisions on coaches until after the season.

UF knows the December signing day is key, which is why they made a move on a coach mid-year.

Meanwhile we’ll just be approaching Frosts agent after UF will have gotten the behind the scenes work sorted out weeks ago.
 

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He’s not, pretty simple to see given he’s said he refuses to make decisions on coaches until after the season.

UF knows the December signing day is key, which is why they made a move on a coach mid-year.

Meanwhile we’ll just be approaching Frosts agent after UF will have gotten the behind the scenes work sorted out weeks ago.
You have no way of knowing if he is working behind the scenes or not. And his track record would indicate he is, if he plans to make a change.
 
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Moos' contract includes a $100K bonus for a B10 championship and a $150K bonus for a CFP postition. Keeping Riley pushes the possibility of getting one of those bonuses out at least another year. He would be nuts to keep Riley another year no matter how NU finished.
Change a year to maybe a decade or never and we agree.
 

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What did Moos do at Oregon I should be in awe of?
Go back and read the 50 news stories on his tenure there or maybe just check out his bio on Huskers.com. It should be up there by now I imagine. He's the one that started the rise of Oregon football with his fundraising, facility upgrades and hire of Belotti. Nike money came late to the game but it came in part due to Moos. Chip Kelly benefited greatly from the things Moos accomplished prior to Chip being hired.
 

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Go back and read the 50 news stories on his tenure there or maybe just check out his bio on Huskers.com. It should be up there by now I imagine. He's the one that started the rise of Oregon football with his fundraising, facility upgrades and hire of Belotti. Nike money came late to the game but it came in part due to Moos. Chip Kelly benefited greatly from the things Moos accomplished prior to Chip being hired.
Moos never hired a football coach there and Phil Knight fired him. It’s pretty simple. Take care of Phil Knight. He is the money train, and Moos couldn’t do that. What do you think
huskers.com is going to write about him? Bad stuff. I’m also not saying Moos is a bad hire yet but let’s not pretend we killed it with this hire. His football coaching hire will define his time here.
 
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Moos never hired a football coach there and Phil Knight fired him. It’s pretty simple. Take care of Phil Knight. He is the money train, and Moos couldn’t do that. What do you think
huskers.com is going to write about him? Bad stuff. I’m also not saying Moos is a bad hire yet but let’s not pretend we killed it with this hire. His football coaching hire will define his time here.

He also gave Paul Wulff at WSU a 4th year. It would be a disaster if he gave Riley another year.
 

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Moos never hired a football coach there and Phil Knight fired him. It’s pretty simple. Take care of Phil Knight. He is the money train, and Moos couldn’t do that. What do you think
huskers.com is going to write about him? Bad stuff. I’m also not saying Moos is a bad hire yet but let’s not pretend we killed it with this hire. His football coaching hire will define his time here.
Belotti credited Moos. I may have been wrong about him hiring Belotti. Knight didn't fire Moos. Knight got Moos fired for bucking him on something. Maybe Moos was right given some of the illegal activities that have come to light with the shoe companies. Did Knight want Moos to pay off players? We don't know what their conflict was. John Blake was mentioned in some similar allegations regarding recruiting football players involving agents. Chip got caught in some banned activities at Oregon involving recruiting and exchange of cash. I gotta hit the rack. Too much Jameson tonight.
 

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Belotti credited Moos. I may have been wrong about him hiring Belotti. Knight didn't fire Moos. Knight got Moos fired for bucking him on something. Maybe Moos was right given some of the illegal activities that have come to light with the shoe companies. Did Knight want Moos to pay off players? We don't know what their conflict was.

Actually we do know what the conflict was about. Moos tried to get the Washington AD job, and then later Phil Knight wanted Moos to fire the track coach, and threatened to stop donating money if he didn't.
 

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Actually we do know what the conflict was about. Moos tried to get the Washington AD job, and then later Phil Knight wanted Moos to fire the track coach, and threatened to stop donating money if he didn't.
Track coach didn't want his recruits taking money from Nike I guess. Oregon didn't get all those recruits just because they have snappy uniforms. I'm happy to hear that Moos has principles and won't be run over by the money.
 

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Yep, being proactive means something with a December signing day. That last Saturday of the year Florida will already have had informal conversations with Frosts agent, will have contracts prepped, asst coach salary pools determined, etc.

@4.6.3 - You’re turning “step away from the ledge” into an excuse for Moos to twiddle his thumbs and wait to start moving until the Saturday after thanksgiving. UF will be watching the ink dry and we’ll be just starting to ping his agent for the first time.
Your assuming we have not had informal discussions with frost already. I was told they already have and it was as recent as 10 days ago...
 
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He’s not, pretty simple to see given he’s said he refuses to make decisions on coaches until after the season.

UF knows the December signing day is key, which is why they made a move on a coach mid-year.

Meanwhile we’ll just be approaching Frosts agent after UF will have gotten the behind the scenes work sorted out weeks ago.

What are you talking about? Do you expect that someone would be introducing Frost as their new head coach this week?