For all you 6-6 people

[.S&C.]

6-6 in this SEC is basically meaningless unless you are able to build on it, and by build on it, I mean use it as a building block for a 9 win season in this conference and better.

Since a 6-6 bowl with this team doesn't mean that, it's just another laugh bowl that will be forgotten when we miss 4 of the next 5.

The attitudes in our leadership must change or we're screwed boys. I don't mean to sound like a broken record, but it is what it is. It's time to realize it and start applying pressure as a football fan base.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Agreed, and if the team really is divided, a grown up needs to take charge, determine what caused it and decide how to fix it. Now.

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

Here's what you don't get. Shooting for 6-6 as some sort of achievement means you will sometimes exceed and sometimes fall short. Exceeding 6-6 means 7-5 and still going to a crappy bowl. Falling short means 5-7 or 4-8 and suddenly you're getting a new coach and rebuilding. Rinse and repeat, and before you know it 50 years go by. This is what a culture of mediocrity is like, and this is the mentality that perpetuates it.

Shooting for 9-3 or 10-2 means falling short to 7-5. Exceeding means a title. Now you keep your coach and you get better recruits.

Stop accepting mediocrity, it's a recipe for failure.

So, you're suggesting firing the coach if we win out? I'm all for increasing expectations, but gradually. You raise the bar each year based on the previous one. Making a bowl this year would be forward progress. If this crap keeps happening next year, and we still barely make a bowl (if we make one at all), then we can start questioning whether we wanna keep this staff around.

 

[supernova0221]

Here's what you don't get. Shooting for 6-6 as some sort of achievement means you will sometimes exceed and sometimes fall short. Exceeding 6-6 means 7-5 and still going to a crappy bowl. Falling short means 5-7 or 4-8 and suddenly you're getting a new coach and rebuilding. Rinse and repeat, and before you know it 50 years go by. This is what a culture of mediocrity is like, and this is the mentality that perpetuates it.

Shooting for 9-3 or 10-2 means falling short to 7-5. Exceeding means a title. Now you keep your coach and you get better recruits.

Stop accepting mediocrity, it's a recipe for failure.

You're not even a UK fan

 

[BluTide]

I agree with you 100% Prime MF

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

Then my post wasn't directed at you. I'm talking to those people who think 6-6 is an acceptable result. 6-6 is a step on the path to the acceptable result; it is not an end in itself. To go around saying "we can still make 6-6 and have a great season" means you are part of the problem.

I don't believe that you believe this, unless you mean the first season for a new coach.

I believe that many of you on here are fully committed to the notion that there is some obvious champion hire out there, and that there has been each time the job was open in the past - different men over time representing a hire whom AD after AD has missed at UK. (and remember, Brooks was firmly in this "miss" category with this group for a long stretch)

Somewhere, there is a man who is a proven commodity, and whose ability to bring UK from the cellar to the penthouse (aiming for 9+ wins every single season) in a relatively short period is beyond questioning.

And this man is also willing to set aside the long and storied history of losing to accept the UK job over others if only the AD would properly incentivize him.

That's what I believe many of you believe.

And I believe that it is folly.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Oh, I think he's a fan, but he's one of those oddballs who enjoy misery. By his expectations we need to become UGA which isn't likely to happen and when it doesn't happen he'll have everything to complain about.

 

[footballfanatic77]

You missed the point. I'm not talking to you, I'm talking to those who get excited over 6-6. You shouldn't be happy with that, except as a necessary stepping stone. 6-6 should be expected, and it should also be left behind as an expectation. We have tons of fans who are just fine with being 6-6 or 7-5 perpetually. It's a mindset that must change for us to move forward.

Anybody that gets excited about a 6-6 season after several years of 6-6 seasons is an idiot. It's fine to get excited to see the team reaching that next step, but that's it.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Oh, I think he's a fan, but he's one of those oddballs who enjoy misery. By his expectations we need to become UGA which isn't likely to happen and when it doesn't happen he'll have everything to complain about.

Thanks for proving my point - you have no expectations of real success. You're so mired in mediocrity that you don't even see it.

 

[LowCountryCat]

So, you're suggesting firing the coach if we win out? I'm all for increasing expectations, but gradually. You raise the bar each year based on the previous one. Making a bowl this year would be forward progress. If this crap keeps happening next year, and we still barely make a bowl (if we make one at all), then we can start questioning whether we wanna keep this staff around.

I didn't say fire Stoops. I don't think you CAN fire Stoops. You can, however, get him to resign.

And I can question him anytime I feel like it. And when the rest of you catch up to me, probably sometime next season at the latest, I'll be here reminding you that I was right. I take no joy in saying this; in fact, just the opposite. If I was not a real fan I wouldn't get upset at these embarrassments.

 

[LowCountryCat]

So, Merriman posts that no one is saying that every year and you counter with someone saying it would be good for this year. Wow, thats odd for someone of your intelligence. Perhaps you just don't read well.

Many people have posted things like, "just win 2 of the next 3 and we go bowling lolz" and that's all people seem to care about. I'm saying look beyond the stupid record which includes SCHEDULED WINS and see what's actually going on. We're NOT progressing.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Thanks for proving my point - you have no expectations of real success. You're so mired in mediocrity that you don't even see it.

Nice try but I already defined my vision of success. Yours is unrealistic which is just as bad as not expecting enough success. Of course, you're smart and already know that.

 

[BigBlueFanGA]

Many people have posted things like, "just win 2 of the next 3 and we go bowling lolz" and that's all people seem to care about. I'm saying look beyond the stupid record which includes SCHEDULED WINS and see what's actually going on. We're NOT progressing.

I know, I didn't disagree with you on that. There, I've agreed with you twce in ths thread. For full transparency, I took an NZT pill so I can keep up.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Nice try but I already defined my vision of success. Yours is unrealistic which is just as bad as not expecting enough success. Of course, you're smart and already know that.

Winning 9 games is not realistic? Wow, I rest my case.

 

[LowCountryCat]

I know, I didn't disagree with you on that. There, I've agreed with you twce in ths thread. For full transparency, I took an NZT pill so I can keep up.

And yet you continue to address me in a combative manner, more evidence that you have a problem with me personally, because you manufacture an argument with me even though you agree.

 

[Hoskins91_rivals]

I didn't say fire Stoops. I don't think you CAN fire Stoops. You can, however, get him to resign.

And I can question him anytime I feel like it. And when the rest of you catch up to me, probably sometime next season at the latest, I'll be here reminding you that I was right. I take no joy in saying this; in fact, just the opposite. If I was not a real fan I wouldn't get upset at these embarrassments.

Acting like the smartest person in the room isn't very flattering, especially when you aren't.

It doesn't matter what you think, he gets next year regardless of whether we go bowling or not (unless we somehow get embarrassed by Charlotte). If we get to 6-6, that is a reasonable place to be in year three based on where we were. I understand people being frustrated with how we got here. I also agree that it's hard to see these issues suddenly going away next year, but running the guy out of town when the record has improved each year he's been here (at least if your hypothetical ending for this season comes true) is unreasonable. If we're 6-6 again (or worse) and we are still seeing these same issues, then yes, I'll be for finding a replacement.

 

[LowCountryCat]

Acting like the smartest person in the room isn't very flattering, especially when you aren't.

It doesn't matter what you think, he gets next year regardless of whether we go bowling or not (unless we somehow get embarrassed by Charlotte). If we get to 6-6, that is a reasonable place to be in year three based on where we were. I understand people being frustrated with how we got here. I also agree that it's hard to see these issues suddenly going away next year, but running the guy out of town when the record has improved each year he's been here (at least if your hypothetical ending for this season comes true) is unreasonable. If we're 6-6 again (or worse) and we are still seeing these same issues, then yes, I'll be for finding a replacement.

You do realize that there is no possible way that this team can finish the year 6-6, right? It's either going to be 4-8, 5-7, 6-7, or 7-6. Even if we go 6-6 we have to play a bowl caliber team and will likely lose.

As far as you attacking my 'smarts' - I'm not worried that you'll have the balls to show up when I'm proven right.

 

[Senore2006]

Your smarts are fine, lol. You just misapply them negatively. :smiley:

I'm a Louisville fan but I bet a scenario where you beat Charlotte then Louisville would sure take some of the pain away. Win a bowl game and suddenly you have righted the ship of Stoops. And it would be a compelling story line, in the man's favor. The team has looked bad. But there is still season and potential highlights left. I can see why fans could still be excited. Stoops was always going to be On The Job Training. He gets hard lessons too.