Figured now that signing day is done and we have our new players and now we wait till spring practice why not discuss our thoughts on who we think the 2 deep for each position will be on offense and defense.
For Fun: Whats your 2 deep at each offensive/defensive position??
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OFFENSE
QB Barker, Johnson
RB Boom, Kemp, Rose
TE Conrad, Long
Wr Baker, Ross, Greenwood
Wr Juice, Richardson, Timmons
Wr Badet, Bone, Walker
LT Leavitt, Mosier
LG Haynes, Jackson
C Toth, myers,
RG Meyers, George
RT Young, Meadows
DEFENSE
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Baity, Griffin
NB mclain, Randolph
S Edwards, Mclain
S Mcwilson, West
Rush/backer Hatcher, Ware
Slb Laster, Bonner
Will Jones, Walker or Brown
Mike Love, Kash or Firios
DE Daniel, Miggins or Bell
DT Meant, Middleton
Nose Elam, Pringle
I have some changes I'm not sure how will shake out. I have George as a back up right now. I could see him starting at one of the guard spots. Laster I have at Slb and Hatcher moving to Rush backer. At will I have Jones starting but that spot is up for grabs. I think Timmons gets passed up by Richardson at slot. I could see Ross starting over baker or Badet.
QB Barker, Johnson
RB Boom, Kemp, Rose
TE Conrad, Long
Wr Baker, Ross, Greenwood
Wr Juice, Richardson, Timmons
Wr Badet, Bone, Walker
LT Leavitt, Mosier
LG Haynes, Jackson
C Toth, myers,
RG Meyers, George
RT Young, Meadows
DEFENSE
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Baity, Griffin
NB mclain, Randolph
S Edwards, Mclain
S Mcwilson, West
Rush/backer Hatcher, Ware
Slb Laster, Bonner
Will Jones, Walker or Brown
Mike Love, Kash or Firios
DE Daniel, Miggins or Bell
DT Meant, Middleton
Nose Elam, Pringle
I have some changes I'm not sure how will shake out. I have George as a back up right now. I could see him starting at one of the guard spots. Laster I have at Slb and Hatcher moving to Rush backer. At will I have Jones starting but that spot is up for grabs. I think Timmons gets passed up by Richardson at slot. I could see Ross starting over baker or Badet.
I think Mosier moves to guard but 3kid's line-up doesn't look too bad....to quote the great Bruce Pearl "we got weapons"
Many will say it's pointless prior to spring practice (I agree, and you likely do, too), but here's my first shot at it:
OFFENSE
QB: Barker, Johnson
RB: Boom, JoJo, King, Horton/Snell
FB: Taco Meat, Horton
WR: Baker (hoping new offensive staff get him more focused), Bone, Greenwood
Slot: Garrett Johnson, Timmons, TV Williams,
Slot: Richardson, Montgomery (if he returns)
WR: Badet, Ross
TE: Conrad, Long, Hart
LOT: Young, Meadows
LG: Meyers, Haynes
C: Toth, Myers, Stallings
RG: GAA, Mosier
RT: Leavitt, Stenberg
DEFENSE:
Secondary
CB: Westry, Harmon, Randolph
S: McWilson/West
S: Edwards, Walker
CB: Baity, Jackson, Griffin
NB: McClain, Randolph
Front Seven
Jack: Hatcher, Ware, K. Walker, Allen
MLB: Love, Daniel, Firios
WLB: Jones, Brown
DT: Meant, Middleton
NT: Elam, Pringle
DT/DE: Miggins, Bell
SLB: Ware, Bonner, Daniel
SPECIAL TEAMS:
K: MacGinnis
P: McKinnis
LS: ??
KR: King, Harmon
PR: King
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Would pretty much agree on backs/receivers. OL I'd have:
LT: Leavitt and Meadows
LG: GAA and Mosier
C: Toth and Myers
RG: Meyers and Haynes
RT: Young and Stenberg
D's pretty close but I'd have:
OLB: Bonner/Hatcher
ILB: Jones/Daniels
ILB: Love/Firios
OLB: Laster/Ware
We finally have talent at lber and dB to where good prospects aren't expected to start. Lol
Myron walker is gonna see the field some. Griffin would be my guess of freshmen dbs to see the field this year. I totally forgot kg is moving to de and will be 270. He will play some and bell may be a pass rush specialist.
Myron walker is gonna see the field some. Griffin would be my guess of freshmen dbs to see the field this year. I totally forgot kg is moving to de and will be 270. He will play some and bell may be a pass rush specialist.
This is how I would have it as well, I think Marrow said Leavitt will be at LT. Young can play RT for 2 seasons and then move to LT for his Junior and Senior seasons. I also think a lot of people have forgotten about Firios. I think he will play some significant minutes this year.
If K. Daniel is going to bulk up and make the move to play with his hand in the dirt, I'd love to see him redshirt this year and let him grow to 285-290 by the time he is playing more.
QB Johnson or Barker
RB Boom, Kemp or Horton or King or Rose or Snell
WR's Totally up for grabs, IMHO
TE Conrad, Long or Hart
LT Leavitt, Young, Mosier
LG GAA, Haynes
C Toth, Myers
RG Meyers, Mosier, Stallings
RT Young, Meadows, Mosier
OLB Laster, Allen, Bonner
DE Daniel, Bell or Miggins
NT Elam, Pringle
DT Meant, Middleton or Looney
OLB Hatcher, Ware, Walker
LB Love, Daniel
LB Jones or Brown
Nickle McClain, Randolph
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Griffin, Baity
S Edwards, McWilson
S Walker, West
RB Boom, Kemp or Horton or King or Rose or Snell
WR's Totally up for grabs, IMHO
TE Conrad, Long or Hart
LT Leavitt, Young, Mosier
LG GAA, Haynes
C Toth, Myers
RG Meyers, Mosier, Stallings
RT Young, Meadows, Mosier
OLB Laster, Allen, Bonner
DE Daniel, Bell or Miggins
NT Elam, Pringle
DT Meant, Middleton or Looney
OLB Hatcher, Ware, Walker
LB Love, Daniel
LB Jones or Brown
Nickle McClain, Randolph
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Griffin, Baity
S Edwards, McWilson
S Walker, West
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One guy that had an impressive offer list that seems to be falling down the depth chart is Jared Tucker. He got no pt last year and I don't see him beating out the frosh on the depth chart
Think Tucker played on STs. He's much smaller than the other CBs who've seen action, that change has probably stood in the way of his moving up on the depth chart.
L tackle - T. Leavitt, J. LaRubbio or C. Taylor
L guard - G. Asafo-Adjei, N. Haynes
C - J. Toth, J. Stallings or Z. Myers
R guard - R. Meyers, C. Mosier
R tackle - K. Meadows, L. Stenberg or M. Wolfe
TE - C. Conrad, G. Hart or D. Long
Receiver - G. Johnson, J. Badet
Receiver - D. Baker, J. Greenwood or T. Richardson
Receiver - B. Bone, K. Ross
Running back - S. Williams, J. Kemp or M. Horton
Quarterback - S. Johnson, D. Barker
Nose guard - M. Elam, T. Dubose or N. Pringle
D tackle - R. Meant, A. Middleton
D end - K. Daniel, A. Bell or C. Miggins
Hybrid linebacker - J. Hatcher, J. Bonner or J. Allen
Linebacker - N. Firios, J. Jones
Linebacker - C. Love, K. Daniel
Linebacker - D. Ware, E. Brown or D. Laster
Safety - M. Edwards, M. Walker
Safety - M. McWilson, D. West or B. McClain
Corner - D. Baity, K. Randolph or J. Harmon
Corner - C. Westry, J. Griffin or D. Robinson
Punter - G. McKinniss, P. Ward
Placekicker - A. MacGinnis, M. Butler
The decision whether to redshirt or play Landon Young this year will be 1 of Coach Stoops' most difficult decisions. Because of the 5 stars, most fans assume Young will play immediately. Because Kentucky's offensive line was a team weakness last year, the pressure to play Young right away will be overwhelming on Stoops. But history shows almost all offensive tackles, regardless of talent level, are better off with a redshirt. If Coach Stoops decides to play Young this year, then Young and Leavitt will be our starting offensive tackles. Without knowing what Stoops will decide about Young, I believe these other true freshmen will play this year: K. Daniel, G. McKinniss, either J. Griffin or D. Robinson, either B. Snell or A. Rose.
L guard - G. Asafo-Adjei, N. Haynes
C - J. Toth, J. Stallings or Z. Myers
R guard - R. Meyers, C. Mosier
R tackle - K. Meadows, L. Stenberg or M. Wolfe
TE - C. Conrad, G. Hart or D. Long
Receiver - G. Johnson, J. Badet
Receiver - D. Baker, J. Greenwood or T. Richardson
Receiver - B. Bone, K. Ross
Running back - S. Williams, J. Kemp or M. Horton
Quarterback - S. Johnson, D. Barker
Nose guard - M. Elam, T. Dubose or N. Pringle
D tackle - R. Meant, A. Middleton
D end - K. Daniel, A. Bell or C. Miggins
Hybrid linebacker - J. Hatcher, J. Bonner or J. Allen
Linebacker - N. Firios, J. Jones
Linebacker - C. Love, K. Daniel
Linebacker - D. Ware, E. Brown or D. Laster
Safety - M. Edwards, M. Walker
Safety - M. McWilson, D. West or B. McClain
Corner - D. Baity, K. Randolph or J. Harmon
Corner - C. Westry, J. Griffin or D. Robinson
Punter - G. McKinniss, P. Ward
Placekicker - A. MacGinnis, M. Butler
The decision whether to redshirt or play Landon Young this year will be 1 of Coach Stoops' most difficult decisions. Because of the 5 stars, most fans assume Young will play immediately. Because Kentucky's offensive line was a team weakness last year, the pressure to play Young right away will be overwhelming on Stoops. But history shows almost all offensive tackles, regardless of talent level, are better off with a redshirt. If Coach Stoops decides to play Young this year, then Young and Leavitt will be our starting offensive tackles. Without knowing what Stoops will decide about Young, I believe these other true freshmen will play this year: K. Daniel, G. McKinniss, either J. Griffin or D. Robinson, either B. Snell or A. Rose.
Except for playing special teams, the only hope that I see for Tucker or Beckham to see the field is to play Nickel or Dime. Westry, Baity, Edwards & West will all be Soph. Walker is a very good safety prospect & he will be a RS FR. UK is bringing in 3 studs... Gilliam (S/N), Griffin (CB) & Robinson (CB). That's 8 legit studs that will fill the 2 safety & 2 CB positions for the next several years. Just not much room for Tucker and/or Beckham for quite a while, IMHO.
I have seen Dubose mentioned on others depth charts. Stoops mentioned his injury. Does anybody know if he will be ready for spring?
Pretty good breakdown. And I mostly agree with your RS candidates.
Grant McKinnis is a no brainer. As are the JUCO kids... They will all play.
Kash Daniel will probably play. J Watson, J Bannerman & R Walder will likely RS.
G Hoak likely will RS.
D Holtzclaw & Z Hughes will totally depend upon how well the older receivers respond to Gran, Hinshaw & Thomas. Both are good enough to play, but if the older guys get their act together, there is enough depth to RS them. On a positive note, Vince Marrow mentioned that Drew Barker & Dorian Baker have a different demeanor (in a very good way) right now. That is a huge positive.
I think that L Young plays. D Jackson & L Fortner will both likely RS. Time will tell.
D Robinson has the tools to play, but he's pretty raw. J Griffin is more polished. I, too, think that Griffin plays & that Robinson will RS. However, a 6'1 189 player, w/ 4.3 speed, who also led his team in tackles, will be hard to sit. But, like T Gilliam, who is also good enough to play, I think that a pretty crowded secondary will allow both Robinson & Gilliam to RS.
Marrow talked like Rose & Snell may play a lot. This is just a guess based on that info... I wonder if they may look @ RSing S King or moving him to slot receiver. I also wonder if they may look at RSing M Horton or possibly moving him, that is IF he doesn't shine in the spring. Hopefully, Eddie Gran will enable Horton to finally reach his full potential. Vince did say that Boom has a different demeanor about him, in a good way.
Also, Morrow spoke like K Looney will HAVE TO PLAY next year. It may be that Debose won't be ready to go. Anyway, Marrow said that Looney is heavier than he looks (around 285), so he can put on a lot more weight, and that he is very explosive. No mention of Cross or Carter, so I suspect that they will indeed RS.
Justin Rigg likely will RS, although Marrow spoke very highly of him. I guess that it will depend upon how many TE's they plan to play this year. Gran mentioned that he's played zero, single and double TE sets. Conrad, Long & Hart are all available.
Vince Marrow talked like K Looney would have to play this year. IDK, but I am guessing that Debose may not be 100%.
Yeah, I was really hoping Looney could RS. Now I think he may play even if Dubose can go.
Agree with what you said above re King.
I don't think Drake, Landon redshirt just to good. I don't see Bannerman redshirting because his specialty is rushing the Passer and we need that big time. It will be all hands on deck this year do Stoops to win as many games as possible. Year 4 is huge.
I thought Dubose tore his ACL late in the year? If so, it's doubtful that he will play, let alone be effective if he is able. Heck, look at what that injury did to Alex Montgomery's career. Dubose is 6-5 315 so he won't be doing any heavy lifting until late summer probably at the earliest.
I don't see Haynes moving to right guard after playing left guard his whole time here. I see GAA and Haynes at LG and Meyers Mosier at RG . I also do not see Hatcher out of the lineup he is definetly one of the top 3 players on the whole defense. Stoops already said Kash will play Mike so Will is going to be Jones and Brown
Gonna try and do full depth chart with weight and height.
OFFENSE
QB RS SOPH 6"3 225 Barker, JR 6"3 185 Johnson, FR 6"4 205 Hoak
RB JR 5"9 200 Boom, SR 5"10 205 Kemp, JR 6"1 220 Horton, SOPH 5"9 185 King, FR 5"11 220 Snell, FR 6"1 205 Rose
WR JR 6"3 215 Baker, SOPH 6"6 225 Ross, FR 6"7 220 Holtzclaw,
WR JR 5"11 185 Juice, SR 5"10 200 Timmons, JR 5"10 165 T.V
WR RS FR 6"3 220 Richardson, RS JR 6"2 215 Montgomery, RS SOPH 5"11 205 Walker
WR JR 6 185 Badet, JR 6"5 215 Bone, RS FR 6"3 200 Greenwood
TE SOPH 6"5 250 Conrad, RS SOPH 6"5 240 Hart or RS SOPH 6"4 245 Long, FR 6"6 245 Rigg
OT JR 6"6 310 Leavitt, RS FR 6"6 320 Wolfe, RS FR 6"9 295 Taylor
LG SOPH 6"5 325 George, RS JR 6"3 310 Haynes , RS SOPH 6"3 330 stallings
C SR 6"5 310 Toth, RS SR 6"3 300 Myers, FR 6"2 305 Jackson
RG RS JR 6"4 320 Meyers, RS JR 6"6 335 Mosier, RS SOPH 6"6 300 Larrubio, FR 6"6 295 Fortner
RT FR 6"7 305 Young, RS JR 6"5 300 Meadows, RS FR 6"6 325 Stenberg
DEFENSE
CB SOPH 6"4 190 Westry, RS SR 6"2 195 Harmon, FR 6"2 185 Robinson
S. RS SOPH 6 205 Edwards, RS FR 6"1 195 Walker, FR 6 195 Gilliam
S. SR 6 210 Mcwilson, SR 5"11 200 Mclain, RS SOPH 6 210 West
CB SOPH 6"3 185 Baity, FR 6"1 180 Griffin, JR 6 185 Randolph, RS SOPH 5"11 180 Tucker
NB SR 5"11 200 Mclain, JR 6 185 Randolph, RS FR 5"11 180 Beckam, FR 6 195 Gilliam
RUSH RS SOPH 6"2 255 Ware, RS SOPH 6"6 235 Bonner, FR 6"5 230 Bannerman
WILL SOPH 6"2 225 Jones, RS FR 6"2 220 Brown, FR 6"3 225 Walder
MIKE RS SOPH 6"2 245 Love, FR 6"2 235 Kash, RS SOPH 6"1 235 Firios
SLB RS SOPH 6"4 240 Laster, RS SOPH 6"3 220 Walker, SOPH 6"5 235 Allen, FR 6"3 235 Watson
DE. SOPH 6"5 270 KG, SR 6"5 270 Miggins, RS JR 6"5 265 Bell, FR 6"4 255 Carter
DT. RS JR 6"4 305 Meant, RS SOPH 6"3 300 Middleton, FR 6"3 290 Looney
NT. JR 6"7 350 Elam, JR 6"2 340 Pringle, RS SOPH 6"5 315 Dubose, FR 6"3 315 Cross, RS JR 6"2 320 Hyde
I am pretty sure I got everybody listed. It's crazy to think Stoops first year we had 4 SS olineman. We had 4 SS wr and only 4 SS dtackles.
OFFENSE
QB RS SOPH 6"3 225 Barker, JR 6"3 185 Johnson, FR 6"4 205 Hoak
RB JR 5"9 200 Boom, SR 5"10 205 Kemp, JR 6"1 220 Horton, SOPH 5"9 185 King, FR 5"11 220 Snell, FR 6"1 205 Rose
WR JR 6"3 215 Baker, SOPH 6"6 225 Ross, FR 6"7 220 Holtzclaw,
WR JR 5"11 185 Juice, SR 5"10 200 Timmons, JR 5"10 165 T.V
WR RS FR 6"3 220 Richardson, RS JR 6"2 215 Montgomery, RS SOPH 5"11 205 Walker
WR JR 6 185 Badet, JR 6"5 215 Bone, RS FR 6"3 200 Greenwood
TE SOPH 6"5 250 Conrad, RS SOPH 6"5 240 Hart or RS SOPH 6"4 245 Long, FR 6"6 245 Rigg
OT JR 6"6 310 Leavitt, RS FR 6"6 320 Wolfe, RS FR 6"9 295 Taylor
LG SOPH 6"5 325 George, RS JR 6"3 310 Haynes , RS SOPH 6"3 330 stallings
C SR 6"5 310 Toth, RS SR 6"3 300 Myers, FR 6"2 305 Jackson
RG RS JR 6"4 320 Meyers, RS JR 6"6 335 Mosier, RS SOPH 6"6 300 Larrubio, FR 6"6 295 Fortner
RT FR 6"7 305 Young, RS JR 6"5 300 Meadows, RS FR 6"6 325 Stenberg
DEFENSE
CB SOPH 6"4 190 Westry, RS SR 6"2 195 Harmon, FR 6"2 185 Robinson
S. RS SOPH 6 205 Edwards, RS FR 6"1 195 Walker, FR 6 195 Gilliam
S. SR 6 210 Mcwilson, SR 5"11 200 Mclain, RS SOPH 6 210 West
CB SOPH 6"3 185 Baity, FR 6"1 180 Griffin, JR 6 185 Randolph, RS SOPH 5"11 180 Tucker
NB SR 5"11 200 Mclain, JR 6 185 Randolph, RS FR 5"11 180 Beckam, FR 6 195 Gilliam
RUSH RS SOPH 6"2 255 Ware, RS SOPH 6"6 235 Bonner, FR 6"5 230 Bannerman
WILL SOPH 6"2 225 Jones, RS FR 6"2 220 Brown, FR 6"3 225 Walder
MIKE RS SOPH 6"2 245 Love, FR 6"2 235 Kash, RS SOPH 6"1 235 Firios
SLB RS SOPH 6"4 240 Laster, RS SOPH 6"3 220 Walker, SOPH 6"5 235 Allen, FR 6"3 235 Watson
DE. SOPH 6"5 270 KG, SR 6"5 270 Miggins, RS JR 6"5 265 Bell, FR 6"4 255 Carter
DT. RS JR 6"4 305 Meant, RS SOPH 6"3 300 Middleton, FR 6"3 290 Looney
NT. JR 6"7 350 Elam, JR 6"2 340 Pringle, RS SOPH 6"5 315 Dubose, FR 6"3 315 Cross, RS JR 6"2 320 Hyde
I am pretty sure I got everybody listed. It's crazy to think Stoops first year we had 4 SS olineman. We had 4 SS wr and only 4 SS dtackles.
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History shows the opposite for OT, Bama,LSU, AU all have started true frosh at L OT. If he is as good as most think he isn't going to be on campus more than 3 years regardless of RSing or not. History says great OTs, especially L OT leave as soon as they can because they are first round draft picks.
I agree Landon is as close to a sure fire draft pick UK has gotten in my lifetime.
OFFENSE
QB Barker (to start spring), Johnson (takes job in later spring)
RB Boom, Kemp, Rose
TE Conrad, Long
Wr Baker, Ross, Greenwood
Wr Juice, Richardson, Timmons
Wr Badet, Bone, Walker
LT Leavitt, Mosier
LG Haynes, Jackson
C Toth, myers,
RG Meyers, George
RT Young, Meadows
DEFENSE
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Baity, Griffin
NB mclain, Randolph
S Edwards, Mclain
S Mcwilson, West
Rush/backer Hatcher, Ware
Slb Laster, Bonner
Will Jones, Walker or Brown
Mike Love, Kash or Firios
DE Daniel, Miggins or Bell
DT Meant, Middleton
Nose Elam, Pringle
4-3
DE Daniel/Ware
DE Hatcher/Bonner
DT Pringle/Middleton
DT Elam/Bell(provided he has bulked up
OLB Laster/Walker
OLB Bonner/Laster
MLB Love/Kash
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Baity, Harmon
S Edwards/McLain
S McWilson/ West
QB Barker (to start spring), Johnson (takes job in later spring)
RB Boom, Kemp, Rose
TE Conrad, Long
Wr Baker, Ross, Greenwood
Wr Juice, Richardson, Timmons
Wr Badet, Bone, Walker
LT Leavitt, Mosier
LG Haynes, Jackson
C Toth, myers,
RG Meyers, George
RT Young, Meadows
DEFENSE
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Baity, Griffin
NB mclain, Randolph
S Edwards, Mclain
S Mcwilson, West
Rush/backer Hatcher, Ware
Slb Laster, Bonner
Will Jones, Walker or Brown
Mike Love, Kash or Firios
DE Daniel, Miggins or Bell
DT Meant, Middleton
Nose Elam, Pringle
4-3
DE Daniel/Ware
DE Hatcher/Bonner
DT Pringle/Middleton
DT Elam/Bell(provided he has bulked up
OLB Laster/Walker
OLB Bonner/Laster
MLB Love/Kash
CB Westry, Harmon
CB Baity, Harmon
S Edwards/McLain
S McWilson/ West
I agree the goal is to get to 270 and not lose the advantage you have in quickness over the Guard.
Unless Young has some sort of injury between now and September (heaven forbid), the I think it is a mere formality that he will play. We've never had a talent like this on the offensive line at UK. I just don't see any possible way he can redshirt.
In the long term you are probably correct, but I think you're selling Firios short. The guy has talent and is a hard hitter. I think/hope this will be the year he puts it all together.
I agree that is massive, but that is why I clarified it with IF he moves to a 3-4 DE position. I never really thought he'd move to the line full-time, so that's why I said "IF".
When he was recruited/committed, I thought he looked like a replacement for Hatcher. Is that what you thought as well?
KG is moving to dend. 6"5 270 is plenty big enough for that position. Big Z was 6"6 255. Farrington did not reach 280 until his senior year.