Forget that they stole our SEC spot....
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How many of the precious snowflakes will be triggered and throw vile labels at the Mountaineers in the event of a West Virginia win.
That's going to be your opening post? Using an age old 'that's funny' comment that's not even close to being funny or original itself ? If you're such a comedian then please impress us.
I'll wait clown...put on your best show.
They didn't "steal our spot". The SEC decided not to offer it to us. If you want to be angry at someone, be angry at the "powers that be" in the SEC.
In the end...you're right. However, all Misery really wanted was to get out of the B12. They would have been much happier in the B10. That was their first choice.
For them, the SEC was their ticket out. They don't fit in there at all. Never will.
I went to the WVU/LSU game at Baton Rouge. It felt like being at our home field but on a larger scale. Great fans. Great venue. WVU deserved that spot and the SEC was our #1 choice.
In the end, the SEC deviated from their normal pattern of product drives performance ($). They chose TVs instead. Regrettable decision for the them and us.
School pride beams with the crispness of Autumn. Today's students have smartphones, tablets, and hi-res recording capabilities. I've seen worst productions, anybody see Joe versus the Volcano?
I respect and understand your anger. As everyone knows, it came down to numbers. West Virginia has 1.85M people. The St. Louis metro area alone has almost 3 Million. That's not including Kansas City's 2.1M and then the rest of the state. TV sets rule. Plus, it's not like Mizzou hasn't been a consistent top 20 program for the last 15 years or so... It made sense.
Regarding your Big10 comment. Yes, that's where we wanted to go... initially. We knew there was some interest from that league. None of us heard anything about the SEC until after the Big10 stuff was in the past. And the entire fan base was thrilled, save a few old timers who were holding onto the kU rivalry.
To say that West Virginia fits any better than Mizzou is silly. I understand WV is rustic and country. What do you think Missouri is outside of our several large metro areas? It's damn country. And southern Missouri is as southern as Tennessee, Arkansas, Kentucky, and Mississippi.
That said, WHEN the SEC expands again, I'd love to have you guys jump aboard. Unfortunately, I think your population numbers will always hurt you.
Look, I know the Mizzou/B10 thing is still a sore spot. There was a huge push to get in and they didn't want Mizzou, although they were a better fit and program than Maryland or Rutgers.
I've been to a few SEC games...here and away. We fit them like a glove. That's not insulting Mizzou. Mizzou doesn't fit.
Missouri has "several large metro areas." WV has none, just like I would argue Mississippi, Arkansas and Alabama have none. IMO Louisiana and Tennessee have one each. Now SC, GA and FL obviously have more...but you get the point.
We had support to get in, but the SECN ruled the final decision. That doesn't make it the right one.
Who cares? Missouri is happy. WVU is happy. The SEC is happy to have Missouri and The Big12 is happy to have WVU. Would I rather be in the SEC? Maybe but personally I would rather see WVU in the ACC. Everyone won in the end. Move on.
So, Mizzou doesn't fit just because the state of MO has several large metros? Ooookay. How about Florida? How about Georgia?
I'm not saying WV doesn't fit, but I am saying MO fits just fine.
Actually, MO ended up with the much better deal moving to the SEC versus the B1G. Nebraska had to join as a junior member and received much less revenue than its partners.
I'm absolutely saying that and I addressed that in my post as those states are the exception. California has lots of metro areas. If you put Cali further East, do you think that UCLA would blend in at an SEC mixer? No.
Now Missouri is not California, but it makes the point that the bulk of SEC fans and schools don't come from bigger cities. I guarantee you an Auburn tailgate looks way more like a WVU tailgate than a Missouri tailgate.
The demographics and academic profile of Mizzou are much more in step with the B10 than the SEC and frankly their football program is much more Illinois, Indiana and Minnesota than Auburn, Georgia and Florida. They had a couple good years in a fairly weak SEC East, but they are now much more in line with what they were in the B12.
I'm not sure I get your argument. Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, Louisiana, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Texas all have large urban population centers similar to Missouri.
If the SEC wanted WVU, they would have invited us. MIZZ might not fit in perfectly, but neither does WVU in the B12.
Some day this conference geographic insanity will end, and from the smoldering ashes will emerge a simpler and more natural system where the country is divided up into geographic boxes, and we'll be playing the teams nearby rather than traveling across multiple time zones week after week. The notion that WVU, Pitt, Maryland and Kentucky are in 4 different conferences is just insane. It's hard on the kids, and it's hard on the fans.
Until then, we just need to win.
Until then, we just need to win.
Agree on the last. Misery should have stayed in the B12 and we should be in the SEC. This expansion stuff is for the birds.
This is really a stupid argument and one based in ZERO fact. I've been to a bulk of road Mizzou games. Our tailgates look just like many SEC and Big 12 tailgates for that matter. Sure, WV would have been a nice cultural fit, but Missouri works just as well -- having both southern roots and northern roots. I mean, we were split during the Civil War. We've got nothing but impressed SEC fans since they started coming to CoMO.
And we fit better in the Big10 because we are a better school than most of the SEC and West Virginia for that matter? Well, that is true. We are a better school.
For Mizzou alums from the St. Louis area, the move actually meant a lot of closer road games than when we were in the Big 12 -- Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Arkansas, Ole Miss. All can be done in 4-5 hours in the car.
The Big 12 is just sooo spread out and even more now.