No, he just does not have the skill set of a tackle, doesnt have the reach or the flexibility to step backwards with an elite SEC DE. plus he ain't a better tackle than Young or Leavitt, who will be the starters (who takes left/right to be determined in August).
Freddie Maggard and Nick Roush predict starters on offense
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We all HOPE Leavitt will be the starter - but JUCO's always don't pan out the way we hope.
I really think Young will be the real deal and start as a true frosh; he was just sooo impressive in the Army game.
Even if Tate is slow to get going we should, between the Redshirts and another year for the others to develop, find someone serviceable to start on the other side.
In a perfect world Tate and Landon are the bookends of a much improved OL and will set the tone for the future - then Willis fills in for Tate after he graduates in 17
I really think Young will be the real deal and start as a true frosh; he was just sooo impressive in the Army game.
Even if Tate is slow to get going we should, between the Redshirts and another year for the others to develop, find someone serviceable to start on the other side.
In a perfect world Tate and Landon are the bookends of a much improved OL and will set the tone for the future - then Willis fills in for Tate after he graduates in 17
Tate will be an upgrade regardless. Now he may not live up to the rating but he's better than either guy we had playing OT last year from a talent standpoint.
If Leavitt doesn't start it will be perhaps the biggest recruiting bust of the Stoops era. I think the odds highly favor his success.
I think it would be a shame to use what should be a red-shirt year on only mop-up duty.
Agree with all that, hopefully the fact that Leavitt will be here for spring practice will help him in the adjustment from JC. Most of the time the JC guys we have used were quite a bit better the second year. Leavitt is highly rated and a huge young man, I will be disappointed if he doesn't give us a big time step up at the tackle position.
If Leavitt and the rest of the o line once again underperform, Schlarman will certainly need to be fired. The line will be the most talented, and deepest we've had in several years. Should be no excuse for it to not be better.
Toth WILL NOT move from center. The staff feels as though he is one of the top centers in the country! Don't see any scenario that they move him.
Big George will move to RG, Young and Leavitt will start at tackles.
Big George will move to RG, Young and Leavitt will start at tackles.
That is not at all what I was saying. The post, to whom I replied, said "If Jackson gets any work at all this year it would more than likely be at guard IMO". I agree totally with that. I simply added that he could also mop up @ center. In other words, IF HE DOES PLAY, I believe that he will likely see the most action @ guard, but he also will see mop up duty @ center.
I agree with all of that except I think that GAA's athletic ability is better suited @ LG. Plus, Meyers is probably the best guard (besides GAA) & he is better suited @ RG. That is all IMHO & I am not the coaching making those calls.
I don't think it is a full blown conclusion Haynes does not start at RG again. Haynes beat out West last year and played pretty well for a RS sophomore.
If Toth plays at any position other than C, it's as much for his benefit as the team's. Look at last year's NFL draft and tell me how many C were drafted. 7 Total. That's an average of 1 per round.
Want to know how many guards were drafted? 21. If you want to know why Toth might want to demonstrate on film an ability to play both positions, there's your answer. And if you're the coach, and this gives you the opportunity to get your best five linemen on the field together, you make it happen. If Toth is as good as we all think he is playing guard shouldn't be an issue.
Want to know how many guards were drafted? 21. If you want to know why Toth might want to demonstrate on film an ability to play both positions, there's your answer. And if you're the coach, and this gives you the opportunity to get your best five linemen on the field together, you make it happen. If Toth is as good as we all think he is playing guard shouldn't be an issue.
Either that OR------
He really is as good as almost everyone that has evaluated him think he is.
But beating out a fifth year senior in West was not an accomplishment to be overlooked, he was a near four star at a 5.7 with a lot of experience.
There is no chance of that happening. Toth is our starting center, and Jackson should redshirt. I'm sure Freddie means well. But he is not an insider in Stoops' program, and sometimes it just looks like he is writing what he believes our fans might want to hear. Their website is 1% interesting information and 99% stale fluff.
I hope all realize that Tate is already on campus and practicing with the team while Landon is not. I certainly expect Landon to come in and make his presence known in fall camp and should be one of the three best tackles when he steps on campus but there will still be a learning curve for him. OTOH, Tate will be quite acclimated by fall camp and is likely to be firmly entrenched at LT. I just can't foresee any other scenario barring injuries.
Gotta agree with this! Lose 1 starter and jerk the whole O-line around? I can "understand" this in a year 1, maybe year 2 situation, but not year 4. As noted in your other post, "continuity and togetherness" has a bigger impact on OL play than anywhere else on the field.
There is a new offensive scheme going in this year but, based on my very limited viewing of Cincy last year, I don't think the offense, per se, will demand any wholesale OL personnel changes. But naturally, the OC is going to look for what he thinks are his best fits. We'll see come spring.
I have no problem with burning red shirts but you want get your money's worth. To me that means a legitimate 2 deep spot or a specialist position such as kick returner. However, O-line is a position where a very conservative approach to early play is advised. It is, IMO, the most difficult spot on the team for a t-FR to step in and be a meaningful contributor (they usually play because no one else on the roster is "better"). In general, playing as a t-FR more often means good play in the future but plenty of mistakes in the present. JMO.
Peace