Frost Contract Extension

wcbrooks

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Hopefully this will give a boost to the staffs underwhelming recruiting class YTD. We need to start landing some recruits.
This is a key point. There may be some negative recruiting along the lines of—“Nebraska was 4-8 last year and staring down the barrel of another losing season. They’ve had a history of pulling the plug on coaches with better records than that (Solich and Potox, for example). You don’t want to go there given the school’s record with coaches of late.” I think the statement is meant to forestall that approach and, at the same time, this may a message to us that their in for the full 8 seconds with Frost.
 

schuele

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This is a key point. There may be some negative recruiting along the lines of—“Nebraska was 4-8 last year and staring down the barrel of another losing season. They’ve had a history of pulling the plug on coaches with better records than that (Solich and Potox, for example). You don’t want to go there given the school’s record with coaches of late.” I think the statement is meant to forestall that approach and, at the same time, this may a message to us that their in for the full 8 seconds with Frost.
Sounds positively bullet-proof. Unless Mom or Dad happens to have internet access and asks, "Those coaches Nebraska pulled the plug on - had any of them signed contract extensions?"
 

NikkiSixx_rivals269993

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seems a bit like desperation to me

face it, the chop in the water is getting pretty bad

you got kids leaving, coaches who don't know what else to do to fix it, businesses losing out directly or indirectly, negative recruiting, and about to get shellacked a few more times this season.

and they come out with a double down move that wasn't necessary or even on the horizon.

I probably would have opted to make Scott feel the pressure more rather than less, but someone somewhere felt enough pressure to do this..

Ugh, it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion
 

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But wait...some dummies on here saying he will get fired after 2021.Ha..morons!!RollingLaugh

I love it. This is showing the recruits and everyone that Frost isn’t going anywhere and all stupid crap was just that, just stupid CRAP.
 

mpbrown27

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That what it is really about. Sends a message to combat the negative recruiting. I like Frost and believe he will be here a long time and will be successful, but this extension doesn’t mean he can’t/won’t be let go at some point. Callahan signed an extension in 2007 and was fired that same year.

Many people are saying this exact thing - the extension is about sending a message of stability to recruits but then going on to say that he could still be fired at any point, which we've seen time and time again. So then, how is a reassuring message to recruits?
 

Headcard

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Many people are saying this exact thing - the extension is about sending a message of stability to recruits but then going on to say that he could still be fired at any point, which we've seen time and time again. So then, how is a reassuring message to recruits?
Perception vs Reality
 

schuele

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seems a bit like desperation to me

face it, the chop in the water is getting pretty bad

you got kids leaving, coaches who don't know what else to do to fix it, businesses losing out directly or indirectly, negative recruiting, and about to get shellacked a few more times this season.

and they come out with a double down move that wasn't necessary or even on the horizon.

I probably would have opted to make Scott feel the pressure more rather than less, but someone somewhere felt enough pressure to do this..

Ugh, it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion
Eh, I don't think it shows desperation. Hell, it's not even that surprising, given the millions of dollars that the HC/AD/University Administrators Good Ol' Boys Network routinely toss around like it's Monopoly money.

I want Frost to succeed at NU, and I don't even think his seat should be warm when he's not even through Year 2. But the idea that Nebraska needed to extend his contract to show the world how committed they are to him is utter nonsense.
 

f00tball_fan

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Winning is the only thing that will combat negative recruiting.

I doubt many recruits were like, "He only has 5 more years on his contact? That's not enough, I won't consider Nebraska unless he has at least 7 more years on his contact".


What does any amount mean? I don’t get this idea that we are showing commitment to someone with a contract extension. We have fired every other coach right after an extension, so they mean jack diddly.
 

Ewooc

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Lifetime contract if we ever get bowl eligible
I said from the beginning if Frost can at the min consistently get that 8 9 win mark and make a bowl. He could end up being our version of Ferentz.
 

redwine65

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in general it seems like colleges that are committed to football don't blink at contract extensions as far as the money, I guess 5 million is a lot, but when you consider all the money involved, it probably is not a lot
 

Joe_Bananas

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Everyone already knows we're all in on Frost, not sure this statement had to be made. 9 year contract to a guy that's 8-14 seems a bit much.
 

Huskerz99

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On the post game show with Frost they mention how 82,000 Nebraska kids go hungry each day. Wonder if Frost even cares that he got another 10 million and could solve that problem fast? Just a thought that puts things in perspective a little. If I lost this much at a place like Nebraska I would have to seriously consider donating it back or putting it to good use. Not sure I would feel like I’m earning it.
 

GeorgeFlippin

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On the post game show with Frost they mention how 82,000 Nebraska kids go hungry each day. Wonder if Frost even cares that he got another 10 million and could solve that problem fast? Just a thought that puts things in perspective a little. If I lost this much at a place like Nebraska I would have to seriously consider donating it back or putting it to good use. Not sure I would feel like I’m earning it.
What makes you think he won’t donate to such causes?
 

tick2266

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Bo, Mike and Bill had idiot A.D.'s and no support from the fans and boosters. Nice try though. Buckle up haters. Frost has all the time he needs to get this thing called NU football fixed!!
Ask yourself why this happening after several disappointing games. This is a tactic to change the conversation. Nebraska has historically shown that contracts mean very little.
 

Ucfmikes

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Husker fans should be thrilled today. Rumor has it that Frost signed the contract extension with the stipulation that Shitander is fired at the end of the season
 

dinglefritz

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Interesting. Same thing happened for bo,mike and bill before they’re last seasons
They didn't have 5 years remaining on a 5 million/year contract. We're pot committed now and that is exactly the intent of the BOR, Green and the boosters of substance. I posted it several weeks ago. All the powers that be are all in on Frost. Competing teams were already using a "hot seat" approach against us in recruiting. Frost is going to be here for a long long time so you had better get used to it.
 

dinglefritz

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What does any amount mean? I don’t get this idea that we are showing commitment to someone with a contract extension. We have fired every other coach right after an extension, so they mean jack diddly.
The other dudes didn't have 5 years remaining on their original deal. This extension commits us to 35+ million dollars. Green, Moos, and the BOR aren't blind and deaf. They know what's been going on in the message boards and they've seen the hot seat articles. Frost is going to get all the time he needs to get this thing right.
 

onechase

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A contract extension at this point in my opinion is ridiculous. Wait until the end of the year.
 

dinglefritz

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A contract extension at this point in my opinion is ridiculous. Wait until the end of the year.
early signing period and other schools are using the hot seat article against us in recruiting. I get why they did it. Seems a little unusual due to the fact that he still has 5 years left on his contract but hey, they made a statement. I like that. No issues with support from the administration or the BOR at NU.
 

73 Red I

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The other dudes didn't have 5 years remaining on their original deal. This extension commits us to 35+ million dollars. Green, Moos, and the BOR aren't blind and deaf. They know what's been going on in the message boards and they've seen the hot seat articles. Frost is going to get all the time he needs to get this thing right.
A lot of big donors pushed for Frost and if he fails, they have failed. Moos was hired to hire Frost. He certainly won't be here during all of Frost's contract so this is a way to protect Frost from a new administration that may not like the direction of the program.
 

dinglefritz

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A lot of big donors pushed for Frost and if he fails, they have failed. Moos was hired to hire Frost. He certainly won't be here during all of Frost's contract so this is a way to protect Frost from a new administration that may not like the direction of the program.
Hell virtually EVERYBODY wanted Frost. There were VERY few detractors on this negative cesspool of a message board. It wasn't just boosters. The good news is that the boosters of substance are ponying up money they wouldn't have during Riley's tenure. They absolutely are all in on what Frost is building. IMO that's very positive for the long term stability and outlook for our football program.
 

Jimmy Frank

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Or Matt Ruhl at Baylor??
First, it’s Rhule. Hired in 2017, went 1-11 and 7-6 in his first two years, yikes Debbies would have wanted him fired.

Fleck, 5-7, 7-6 first two years. Again, sad Debbies probably calling for firings.

Can Frost get 3 years too? That would be swell.
 

Fed-Up

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First, it’s Rhule. Hired in 2017, went 1-11 and 7-6 in his first two years, yikes Debbies would have wanted him fired.

Fleck, 5-7, 7-6 first two years. Again, sad Debbies probably calling for firings.

Can Frost get 3 years too? That would be swell.
Both of the examples you used showed vast improvement from year one to year two (Baylor was worse than a dumpster fire) and more improvement in year 3.

I am not a "Fire Frost" guy but it seems a little ridiculous to read "Frost said Chancellor Ronnie Green came to Frost and said they wanted to reward Frost with the extension."...what exactly is he being rewarded for? That is the problem I have with it. There has been NOTHING shown by this coaching staff to warrant "earning" anything but questions here at the end of year 2.
 

B1G RED RULES

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First, it’s Rhule. Hired in 2017, went 1-11 and 7-6 in his first two years, yikes Debbies would have wanted him fired.

Fleck, 5-7, 7-6 first two years. Again, sad Debbies probably calling for firings.

Can Frost get 3 years too? That would be swell.
Why would they want them fired? Those records show improvement.
 

Suhrreal

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Baffling extension.

First of all, Frost's initial contract was a joke and complete head-scratcher. So we gave the green guy 7 years and $35 million. To put this in perspective, Dabo was making less than $1 million a year when he started at Clemson ten years ago. To put this into more perspective, PJ Fleck's extension last week was for LESS than what Frost was initially given. So after proving himself after three years in the same division of the same conference, PJ Fleck is still getting less money than we gave Frost.

Now we are giving Frost another 2 years, for a total of 9 years of locked up money? Something seems fishy. Obviously you don't blame Frost for getting everything he can, but you have to wonder what the hell the people writing these contracts are thinking.
 

WoodRiverJennings

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Pretty alarming that the on-field results, off-field issues, and player mismanagement (mass Exodus of talent) have gotten to the point where we needed to throw ten million dollars at a guy that hasn't come close to having a winning season here, just to try and salvage a disappointing recruiting class.

Sad!
 

uberism1111

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Pretty alarming that the on-field results, off-field issues, and player mismanagement (mass Exodus of talent) have gotten to the point where we needed to throw ten million dollars at a guy that hasn't come close to having a winning season here, just to try and salvage a disappointing recruiting class.

Sad!

Seek out a therapist. You need one.
 

dinglefritz

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Pretty alarming that the on-field results, off-field issues, and player mismanagement (mass Exodus of talent) have gotten to the point where we needed to throw ten million dollars at a guy that hasn't come close to having a winning season here, just to try and salvage a disappointing recruiting class.

Sad!
What IS sad is someone like yourself posing as a Husker fan making false statements about player mismanagement and a "mass exodus of talent". What has happened here with the coaching change was to be expected and it isn't like any of the guys who left landed at Ohio State or Alabama. We lost some average to below average talent who had me first attitudes. You replace them and move on. Two of the highest ranked guys we lost don't even start at OSU and the third one is a backup QB with no guarantees of ever playing. POB starts for CSU and is not a great QB as well. Mo Washington is a mess. That isn't Frost's fault. He took a chance on a great physical talent with personal problems.
 

WoodRiverJennings

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What IS sad is someone like yourself posing as a Husker fan making false statements about player mismanagement and a "mass exodus of talent". What has happened here with the coaching change was to be expected and it isn't like any of the guys who left landed at Ohio State or Alabama. We lost some average to below average talent who had me first attitudes. You replace them and move on. Two of the highest ranked guys we lost don't even start at OSU and the third one is a backup QB with no guarantees of ever playing. POB starts for CSU and is not a great QB as well. Mo Washington is a mess. That isn't Frost's fault. He took a chance on a great physical talent with personal problems.

What did I say that was false? The facts are that he's had a lot of highly rated players jump ship since he took over. Don't be a dumbass, put the Kool aid down and look at the situation objectively.
 

dinglefritz

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What did I say that was false? The facts are that he's had a lot of highly rated players jump ship since he took over. Don't be a dumbass, put the Kool aid down and look at the situation objectively.
Highly rated doesn't mean highly talented OR highly performing. The guys who left were highly UNDERPERFORMING highly RATED guys. Gebbia has a chance to be a good QB at OSU. The rest of the guys I don't think will ever do much.
 

WoodRiverJennings

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Highly rated doesn't mean highly talented OR highly performing. The guys who left were highly UNDERPERFORMING highly RATED guys. Gebbia has a chance to be a good QB at OSU. The rest of the guys I don't think will ever do much.

Avery Roberts is leading a P5 team in tackles and is an ILB, which we desperately need. So OSU coaches could motivate him to perform at a very high level, but Frost and Co couldn't? Not a good look.