Frost to coach Huskers per ESPN

virgie76712

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Dang, Tic. A bit harsh aren't we? But technically, I can present no plausible argument. You didn't mention TO all gung ho for the BIG. At least one Neb regent accurately foresaw the road ahead.
 
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CTOkie

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You seriously believe what you wrote? The demise of Nebraska started the day TO retired and continued to get worse with each bad coaching hire we made. It had nothing to do with leaving the Big 12 or Texas recruits, Texas can't win with Texas recruits. As for the BIG 10 west, are you trying to say the Big 12 north was better? That's a laugh. Like I said in the beginning, it was all about the inability to replace TO.
No doubt that Nebraska's decline started with Osborne's retirement after the 1997 season.
But with all due respect to the West Division of the Big 10 (Illinois, Minnesota, Iowa, Wisconsin, Purdue) Nebraska hardly helped itself by joining the weaker portion of the Big 10. So clearly, geography has been a part of Nebraska's decline....along with failed attempts to find a quality coach like Bob Stoops and Lincoln Riley. Ohio State, Michigan and Penn State can tap into their instate areas for top talent and can cherry pick into the South, New Jersey, Texas and the West Coast. Nebraska....not so much.
As someone who loves the college game and its history, I WANT to see Nebraska return to its powerhouse status. But now, I don't see it happening unless Coach Frost proves to be a very capable and creative head coach. I would say to Nebraska fans that it will likely take 3-5 years before any kind of resurrection is seen, even with a capable coach.
 
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WhyNotaSooner

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Well there is no doubt the guy can coach. His resume' speaks for itself. This shouldn't be up for debate. The real question is, can he recruit? Can he surround himself w/ coaches that can recruit? If he can recruit top flight kids to come to Nebraska, the program will thrive. If he fails at this, the program will flounder. TO managed to get some great players. time will tell if Frost can do the same.
 
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runningback43

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Nebraska in the 90's success came from recruiting partial qualifiers. They can't do that anymore and they have become irrelevant.
 

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If he can recruit top flight kids to come to Nebraska, the program will thrive.
The state of Nebraska ranks outside of the top 30 states in high school talent and while getting the handful of good players that are in-state is good, it won't allow the Cornhuskers to return to relevance without some serious cherry picking coast to coast, as it did in the Osborne days.
There's also been a dramatic decline in the number of Nebraska high schools with football teams. In 1983, there were 355 high school football programs in Nebraska....by 2013, there were 282.
Nebraska falls behind states like Massachusetts, Connecticut, Kansas, New York and Utah, among others, in states' rankings for producing the best recruiting situations.
The state of Oklahoma might provide a similar situation if not for its proximity to Texas, Louisiana, Missouri and its pipeline to the West Coast and Florida....not to mention OU's ability to regain its relevance under Stoops after the horrific 1990's decade.
Tom Osborne maintained Bob Devaney's legacy by getting players from New Jersey, Ohio, California, Texas, Michigan and other places, plus high school football in the state of Nebraska churned out guys like Johnny Rodgers and Jeff Kinney who were key players in the 1971 OU game.
Nebraska now has to start from scratch and the body of work by Devaney and Osborne has little influence on the current generation of players entering college.
 

runningback43

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Partial qualifiers ? Are we talking about roids and thugs here 43 ?

Partial qualifiers were kids that didn't qualify due to the old proposition 48 rules. Nebraska would enroll them part time and gray shirt them. They would take 6 hours of class and get their grades up so they could qualify to be full time students.

Of course the steroids that were rampant in Lincoln didn't hurt either.
 
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WhyNotaSooner

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The state of Nebraska ranks outside of the top 30 states in high school talent and while getting the handful of good players that are in-state is good, it won't allow the Cornhuskers to return to relevance without some serious cherry picking coast to coast, as it did in the Osborne days.
There's also been a dramatic decline in the number of Nebraska high schools with football teams. In 1983, there were 355 high school football programs in Nebraska....by 2013, there were 282.
Nebraska falls behind states like Massachusetts, Connecticut, Kansas, New York and Utah, among others, in states' rankings for producing the best recruiting situations.
The state of Oklahoma might provide a similar situation if not for its proximity to Texas, Louisiana, Missouri and its pipeline to the West Coast and Florida....not to mention OU's ability to regain its relevance under Stoops after the horrific 1990's decade.
Tom Osborne maintained Bob Devaney's legacy by getting players from New Jersey, Ohio, California, Texas, Michigan and other places, plus high school football in the state of Nebraska churned out guys like Johnny Rodgers and Jeff Kinney who were key players in the 1971 OU game.
Nebraska now has to start from scratch and the body of work by Devaney and Osborne has little influence on the current generation of players entering college.

I’m a firm believer in a good manager can take a bad entity and turn it around and that a bad manager can take a thriving entity and destroy it. Coaching is no different. A good HC can turn the Nebraska woes around to prominence again. The kids always follow good sound leadership.
 

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I’m a firm believer in a good manager can take a bad entity and turn it around and that a bad manager can take a thriving entity and destroy it. Coaching is no different. A good HC can turn the Nebraska woes around to prominence again. The kids always follow good sound leadership.
True.
I hope Nebraska fans give Frost at least 3-4 years to resurrect the program. His ties to Florida won't hurt.
 

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The 2018 schedule starts with the Red/White game, Akron, Colorado and Troy. You should be 3-1 going into conference play but @ Mich, Whisky, Northwestern. Iowa and tosu will not be pretty. All the home games Should be winnable except possibly Mich St. The two b1g east away games plus whisky may be brutal and you never know what you have against nw & ia
 
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True.
I hope Nebraska fans give Frost at least 3-4 years to resurrect the program. His ties to Florida won't hurt.
Frost has 5 years unless he completely tanks in his 4th year. By tank I mean wins 3-4 games. I think he is already one of the top coaches in the BIG.

Considering we had 7 commits when he was hired and we somehow signed Adrian Martinez, the top JUCO RB in the country. The top JUCO ILB recruit in the country, the top safety JUCO recruit in the country and the top JUCO WR recruit in the country. All within less then 3 weeks. Throw in a couple extra 4 stars and 3 stars.

Obviously we have a ways to go in recruiting. But he is sowing up some weaknesses and had to recruit and coach a completely different team flying back and forth daily.

We are going to be fine. And I think if his staff can get our team to buy in quickly we might have the success UCF had and sniff a CFP birth once every so often.

BTW congratulations on a great season. I know this last one hurts, but damn you guys had a hell of a ride.
 

iasooner1

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No, he (like me) are disgusted with getting blown out by the ia (freaking) hog-guys...
 

OklaBama

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Nebraska and UCF both have new coaches. In 3-5 years Nebraska will be winning more games a year than UCF while playing in a tougher league. The difference will be what the new head coaches bring to the program. Just my humble opinions.
 

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Nebraska was undefeated and ranked 7th last year heading into Madison with a terrible head coach. I don’t think we are as far away as some of you think. New leadership in the athletic department and Frost hopefully will give The Huskers the shot in the arm they need!

Can’t wait for the home and Home! Go Big Red!