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Breaking: Florida State announced head coach Willie Taggart's contract has been terminated effective immediately.


12:26 PM - 3 Nov 2019
 
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Five intriguing options to replace Willie Taggart

https://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/oregon-ducks/five-intriguing-options-replace-willie-taggart

Kevin Sumlin
Kevin Sumlin: Might be the biggest name out there. Recently fired from Texas A&M where he went 51-26 over six seasons in the rugged SEC.

Justin Wilcox
Justin Wilcox: California coach who has been there for one season. Strong defensive coach who played at Oregon. His contract of 5-years and $9.58 million would be easy for the Ducks to double.

Mario Cristobal
Mario Cristobal: Oregon's co-offensive coordinator would be a logical candidate in order to maintain continuity. Reports say that defensive coordinator Jim Leavitt will accompany Taggart o FSU. Cristobal has head coaching experience, is considered to be a great recruiter and could help to hold the promising 2018 recruiting class largely intact.

Jim McElwain
Jim McElwain: He was one of the Ducks' top targets last year. Oregon offered the job and after initially accepting it, he later backed out of the deal to remain at Florida. The Gators fired him this season after a 3-4 start. He went 22-12 with Florida over three seasons.

Bryan Harsin
Bryan Harsin: The Boise State coach was on Oregon's radar last year and should be considered a viable candidate this time around. He is 41-12 over four seasons at Boise State and just won his second Mountain West Conference championship. The Broncos will face Oregon in the Dec. 16 Las Vegas Bowl.
 
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They’ll pay Taggart $17,000,000 + to not come to work at FSU. These PHD people running these universities are horrible at hiring & contract negotiations. Scott Boras would bankrupt entire conferences if he was not in baseball.
 
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So getting trounced by rival Miami was the tipping point for the Noles....

He would never admit it but I bet Jimbo had a smile on his face when this news broke.
 
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Jimbo looks smarter and better all the time.


I don’t see Urb going to FSU. He left Florida and then left Ohio State. He can be at USC immediately which is a better job.

I don’t see Bob Stooos going there either. He left Oklahoma so why would he go to FSU? He is coaching in the XFL. ND is reportedly the college job he wanted while at Oklahoma. The only Stoops FSU could get is in Kentucky and he’ll want it. Whether they want him is another question.

I think FSU will shoot for a lot of Big Name people but probably hire a coach from a winning G5 program like Mike Norvell at Memphis.
 
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Meyer left Florida because he alienated a huge part of the state of florida with his ignorance. Parents coaches athletic directors. He is a big reason FSU rose to power again he pissed off enough people the noles started winning more recruiting battles, that's why he " retired" waited for them to get players, came back and then retired again and ran to o$u. He can pick from florida but doesnt need to heavily rely mostly on it Hes not going to fsu, florida high schools and parents dont want him around they know hes a scum bag.
 
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Lane Kiffin would be the front runner for me. Low buyout, excellent offensive mind, learned under Saban about running a program now, and can recruit pretty damn well (wherever he has been).

Mike Leach is a close 2nd if they could get him away from Washington St.
 
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Whatever they do, they need to aim big, look at what florida did that didnt work for so long and Miami. Sure meyer left florida he didnt just get voted out as mayor he burnt down city hall and poisoned the water supply, but you dont want to end up keep changing coaches. They need a winner and equally as important a recruiter that can do it in florida so that it becomes a turnaround and not a recurring cycle where they keep saying things like first this or that since way back when Jimbo was here. Their last hire clearly was a miss, they cant miss their next one or they risk becoming Miami, or worse, Texas, where we spend 20 years saying oh is fsu back? Well they do have a turnover bracelet
 
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Does this mean Krazy Karen can go back to being a Florida State Fan.
She even followed Jimbo to Texas. Don't get any ideas Buckaineer.

Guess she didn't like the idea of having a black coach.
Florida can have her back. She is way too trashy for Texas. I'll even help her pack
 
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SKYHAWKBALL said:
Lane Kiffin would be the front runner for me. Low buyout, excellent offensive mind, learned under Saban about running a program now, and can recruit pretty damn well (wherever he has been).

Mike Leach is a close 2nd if they could get him away from Washington St.
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I don’t know if they would like his eccentricities but I like your thinking on Leach.
 
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Well since I live here and by nature follow Florida schools as well as my Mountaineers...could see this one coming. No improvement in two years. Bam. Gone. Taggert will get hired somewhere else and offset some of the payout. FSU will get their man and they will turn it quickly. Not waiting for years and seeing interest and donations slide is a good move and in the long run the cheapest alternative. That said...all coaches are grossly over compensated.
 
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WVUALLEN said:
Being 0-5 vs Miami and Florida was the tipping point.
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0-5 vs FL, The U, & Clemson, but I got what you meant.

That Along with the present attendance and drop in ticket sales. They only announced 63995 for this past weeks game vs MIAMI-lowest attended game at Doak vs Miami since1991. There may have been 50k actual buts in seats. On TV it looked about 2/3 full. The place seats 79,560. Taggart was costing them too much in attendance loss and games lost. Their fanbase turned on him BIG TIME.
 
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I listened to a radio talk show out of Ft Myers’s in the Mornings streaming on tunein.

Boosters came up with about $20,000,000 to get rid of Taggart and Staff on contracts. They went down the list of Top Candidates they’ve heard FSU wants. Some of their top choices have buyouts similar to what Taggart and his Staff got. The comment was made “FSU ain’t got that much money coming from boosters AGAIN” according to them.

The top choices are reportedly Stoops-from Kentucky (not the one who beat us every season in the Big XII) with a buyout like Taggart’s. He was DC at FSU and has had some success even at a basketball school in the SEC. He also knows how to recruit FL which is key.

Mat Campbell has a high buyout too and no real connections to FL. Maybe a WR coach with the Bucs at one time.

PJ Fleck who really has no connection to FL but he’s in MN so they assume he’d trade snow and ice for surf and sand.

James Franklin who was a target 2 seasons ago but didn’t bite. They wonder if he’s ready to leave Sandusky State

Mike Leach, who the hosts of the radio show said, they want him hired just for the press conferences alone. The comment was “you could pay any buyout with $$$$$ You could charge For admission for his pressers.” I think that would be a disaster for the first 2-3 seasons so I hope it happens. That guy gets so much publicity and credit as a great coach and still has Never Won even a Division of a conference-let alone The Whole Conference. He’s an older stranger version of Jim Harbaugh.

Lane Kiffin already at FAU

Mike Norvell at Memphis

The interesting thing they pointed out is to get a top candidate FSU is gonna have to pay and make the guaranteed $$$$$ & guaranteed years EVEN higher cause they just fired a coach with a 6 year contract after only 21 games. It’s why any AD and President better get the hire right the first time. The 2nd time cost even more. Arkansas is getting ready to do this again!

I don’t think Taggart was the first choice 2 years ago either.
 
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FSU has the cash flow if boosters can raise 20 million. Buyouts are nothing more than paper work. All forms can be negotiated. But I don't see Matt Campbell even considering FSU. Rhule From Baylor might get a look. But I don't think he is what they are thinking about.

Urban Myer might get asked. But he is taking a serious look at USC and waiting to see if Notre Dame comes calling. He's probably a no.

Franklin is high on their list and probably best choice. His buyout is only $1 million, but his salary is $5 million and FSU would have to overpay.

Bob Stoops has ties to the state of Florida from when he was Florida’s defensive coordinator from 1996-98 and has won multiple coach of the year awards.

The Sooners finished with 10 or more wins in 14 of the 18 years that he coached.

Sources have told the Democrat that FSU would be looking to bring in an established coach that's a known winner and that Stoops would likely be at the top of the list.

Brent Venables, Clemson defensive coordinator or Tony Elliott, Clemson offensive coordinator.
 
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3xWVUenginEER said:
I listened to a radio talk show out of Ft Myers’s in the Mornings streaming on tunein.

Boosters came up with about $20,000,000 to get rid of Taggart and Staff on contracts. They went down the list of Top Candidates they’ve heard FSU wants. Some of their top choices have buyouts similar to what Taggart and his Staff got. The comment was made “FSU ain’t got that much money coming from boosters AGAIN” according to them.

The top choices are reportedly Stoops-from Kentucky (not the one who beat us every season in the Big XII) with a buyout like Taggart’s. He was DC at FSU and has had some success even at a basketball school in the SEC. He also knows how to recruit FL which is key.

Mat Campbell has a high buyout too and no real connections to FL. Maybe a WR coach with the Bucs at one time.

PJ Fleck who really has no connection to FL but he’s in MN so they assume he’d trade snow and ice for surf and sand.

James Franklin who was a target 2 seasons ago but didn’t bite. They wonder if he’s ready to leave Sandusky State

Mike Leach, who the hosts of the radio show said, they want him hired just for the press conferences alone. The comment was “you could pay any buyout with $$$$$ You could charge For admission for his pressers.” I think that would be a disaster for the first 2-3 seasons so I hope it happens. That guy gets so much publicity and credit as a great coach and still has Never Won even a Division of a conference-let alone The Whole Conference. He’s an older stranger version of Jim Harbaugh.

Lane Kiffin already at FAU

Mike Norvell at Memphis

The interesting thing they pointed out is to get a top candidate FSU is gonna have to pay and make the guaranteed $$$$$ & guaranteed years EVEN higher cause they just fired a coach with a 6 year contract after only 21 games. It’s why any AD and President better get the hire right the first time. The 2nd time cost even more. Arkansas is getting ready to do this again!

I don’t think Taggart was the first choice 2 years ago either.
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In Mike Leach’s defense, he has been at TT and Wash St and had double digit win seasons both places. That doesn’t typically happen at those two schools historically. It isn’t like he has had a chance to see what he can do at USC or Notre Dame. And just the fact that he has even had a winning season at Wash St is impressive considering the years or train wreck performances they had prior to his arrival.
 
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I don't think they should have ever hired him. But yeah cutting him loose in that short of time is not good for your program. They are not exactly a so called blue blood.
 
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Allen...disagree. it is good for FSU. A lot more competition for talent in Florida these days. Taggart was losing on and off the field. Bold move. Smart move.
 
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doneagain said:

In Mike Leach’s defense, he has been at TT and Wash St and had double digit win seasons both places. That doesn’t typically happen at those two schools historically. It isn’t like he has had a chance to see what he can do at USC or Notre Dame. And just the fact that he has even had a winning season at Wash St is impressive considering the years or train wreck performances they had prior to his arrival.
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I agree Leach hasn’t ever been at a top school-too quirky.

I was kind of quoting what the radio hosts were saying. I think Leach is an offensive guy first and foremost and great at offense, but overall his passing offense isn’t long haul dominant in a season vs top schools in a conference. He needs to beat Peterson and Washington this year-about 4 other schools have so far.
 
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