G-League players allowed back to play in college

[18IsTheMan]

Well, this is a slippery slope, to say the least, and it's not hard to see where this is going for college sports overall. NCAA determined that G-league players don't make enough money beyond covering their basic expenses. As long as they are in their 5 year window of eligibility, they can return to college. This will make recruiting quite interesting. Of course, it's going to progress beyond the current guidelines and will spill over to other sports, namely football. The line between amateur and professional has all but been erased at this point.

How G-League players can now play college basketball

G-League players are now entering college basketball for the first time. Here's how.

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[18IsTheMan]

The obvious next step for CFB is to allow players to return to college if they declare for the draft but don't get drafted.

Next, if you only end up on the practice squad, you can come back.

Combine this with the continued erosion of eligibility limits, and it's a mess.

 

[Lurker123]

The obvious next step for CFB is to allow players to return to college if they declare for the draft but don't get drafted.

Next, if you only end up on the practice squad, you can come back.

Combine this with the continued erosion of eligibility limits, and it's a mess.

This is my concern. Now we'll have recruiting classes that have to drop a player or two at the end because of returning pro players as well.

So there will be last minute shuffling there too.

And do these pro players have to return to the same team? Or is there just a new pool of pro free agents that rich schools can buy for a year or two?

 

[18IsTheMan]

This is my concern. Now we'll have recruiting classes that have to drop a player or two at the end because of returning pro players as well.

So there will be last minute shuffling there too.

And do these pro players have to return to the same team? Or is there just a new pool of pro free agents that rich schools can buy for a year or two?

I would guess they can go wherever they want. The player in the article referenced reclassified and went straight to the G-league from high school.

What's crazy is that you can come back any time within the 5 year window of graduating high school (for now...sure to be extended). This kid has been out of high school 3 years, so he has 2 years left to play college ball. He very obviously is not coming back to get a degree. I know a lot of your top players don't but at least when they go straight out of high school to college, that is still presumably on the table.

It's going to totally mess up recruiting.

 

[Lurker123]

I would guess they can go wherever they want. The player in the article referenced reclassified and went straight to the G-league from high school.

What's crazy is that you can come back any time within the 5 year window of graduating high school (for now...sure to be extended). This kid has been out of high school 3 years, so he has 2 years left to play college ball. He very obviously is not coming back to get a degree. I know a lot of your top players don't but at least when they go straight out of high school to college, that is still presumably on the table.

It's going to totally mess up recruiting.

I think it will screw up basketball recruiting very quickly. It'll take a couple bonehead decisions by the NCAA to allow that to spill into football. But it will happen.

There's really nothing going on to curtail any of this, is there? CFB isn't returning to any semblance of parity, is it?

 

[18IsTheMan]

You have to enjoy the humor

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

I think it will screw up basketball recruiting very quickly. It'll take a couple bonehead decisions by the NCAA to allow that to spill into football. But it will happen.

There's really nothing going on to curtail any of this, is there? CFB isn't returning to any semblance of parity, is it?

According to Yahoo Sports, we now have more parity than ever before and the days of dominant programs are gone. They use Indiana and Vandy as proof of their assertions. To me, that sounds a lot like declaring 'Bama DOA and FSU the new king after week one this season.

I can't wait for the whole thing to come unglued.

 

[18IsTheMan]

According to Yahoo Sports, we now have more parity than ever before and the days of dominant programs are gone. They use Indiana and Vandy as proof of their assertions. To me, that sounds a lot like declaring 'Bama DOA and FSU the new king after week one this season.

I can't wait for the whole thing to come unglued.

Don't think those are good examples of parity though.

IU just hit the gold mine with Cignetti. Saw a breakdown of their roster the other day and it's not loaded with 4* or 5*. He's just a very good coach.

Vandy is Pavia. They lucked into him b/c of the assistant coaches they hired from NMSU.

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

Don't think those are good examples of parity though.

IU just hit the gold mine with Cignetti. Saw a breakdown of their roster the other day and it's not loaded with 4* or 5*. He's just a very good coach.

Vandy is Pavia. They lucked into him b/c of the assistant coaches they hired from NMSU.

To be clear, I wasn't agreeing with them. To the contrary, I was pointing out the small sample size and how reaching general conclusions about the overall state of the sport based on those exmples is a lot like reading the tea leaves after the FSU/Bama game. How'd that work out for the "experts"?

 

[Piscis]

Don't think those are good examples of parity though.

IU just hit the gold mine with Cignetti. Saw a breakdown of their roster the other day and it's not loaded with 4* or 5*. He's just a very good coach.

Vandy is Pavia. They lucked into him b/c of the assistant coaches they hired from NMSU.

Cignetti is good but IU also benefits from a pillow soft schedule, same as last season. The Oregon win was impressive but I think there was a lot of luck and Oregon not taking them seriously in that win. The same thing is going on at Georgia tech, their schedule is laughably easy. Their "signature win" that put them on the path to being in the top ten was over a 3-4 Clemson team. They will only play one ranked team all season.

Vandy is definitely Pavia. They have one win that qualifies as impressive, LSU, and LSU isn't as good as they were ranked. They still have to play Missouri, Texas and Tennessee, Auburn could also beat them. The Vandy story won't be quite as magical if they end the season 8-4 or 7-5.

I think there is more parity from around #10 down but the traditional top teams are still way out in front.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I think it will screw up basketball recruiting very quickly. It'll take a couple bonehead decisions by the NCAA to allow that to spill into football. But it will happen.

There's really nothing going on to curtail any of this, is there? CFB isn't returning to any semblance of parity, is it?

I would not be foolish enough to not think many people are already hard at work figuring out how to leverage this decision for college football.

 

[Piscis]

I would not be foolish enough to not think many people are already hard at work figuring out how to leverage this decision for college football.

It is one lawsuit away. A player who isn't drafted or is drafted late and thinks they can make more in NIL money than the NFL contract will sue to go back to college if they have eligibility left. Or, a player who is cut or only makes the practice squad who thinks they can make more in NIL will sue to go back to college if they have eligibility left.

 

[18IsTheMan]

It is one lawsuit away. A player who isn't drafted or is drafted late and thinks they can make more in NIL money than the NFL contract will sue to go back to college if they have eligibility left. Or, a player who is cut or only makes the practice squad who thinks they can make more in NIL will sue to go back to college if they have eligibility left.

Mark it down.

 

[atl-cock]

The obvious next step for CFB is to allow players to return to college if they declare for the draft but don't get drafted.

Next, if you only end up on the practice squad, you can come back.

Combine this with the continued erosion of eligibility limits, and it's a mess.

And baseball players from minor league ball?

 

[18IsTheMan]

And baseball players from minor league ball?

Wasn't even thinking that way. Sheesh, yeah.

 

[KingWard]

The obvious next step for CFB is to allow players to return to college if they declare for the draft but don't get drafted.

Next, if you only end up on the practice squad, you can come back.

Combine this with the continued erosion of eligibility limits, and it's a mess.

It will lead to people who bust at the next level getting another bite of the apple. I don't have a peaceful feeling about this.

 

[KingWard]

You have to enjoy the humor

You know, this is ridiculous - ludicrous.

 

[KingWard]

Cignetti is good but IU also benefits from a pillow soft schedule, same as last season. The Oregon win was impressive but I think there was a lot of luck and Oregon not taking them seriously in that win. The same thing is going on at Georgia tech, their schedule is laughably easy. Their "signature win" that put them on the path to being in the top ten was over a 3-4 Clemson team. They will only play one ranked team all season.

Vandy is definitely Pavia. They have one win that qualifies as impressive, LSU, and LSU isn't as good as they were ranked. They still have to play Missouri, Texas and Tennessee, Auburn could also beat them. The Vandy story won't be quite as magical if they end the season 8-4 or 7-5.

I think there is more parity from around #10 down but the traditional top teams are still way out in front.

In the long run, all of those observations might gain vindication, but MAN, that strikes me as a lot of rationalization as of today, with the possible exception of the last sentence

 

[18IsTheMan]

You know, this is ridiculous - ludicrous.

I'd imagine this would cause an uptick in one and doners. If it doesn't work out and you end up in the G-League, just go back to college.

 

[KingWard]

It is one lawsuit away. A player who isn't drafted or is drafted late and thinks they can make more in NIL money than the NFL contract will sue to go back to college if they have eligibility left. Or, a player who is cut or only makes the practice squad who thinks they can make more in NIL will sue to go back to college if they have eligibility left.

I agree with the plausibility of this. It borders on the inevitable.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Nick Saban sees the slippery slope as well: