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I'm a long time Cats season ticket holder and U of I alum. Even this Illini fan admires Collins work at NU. I sat next to Gaines AAU coach at the Maryland-NU game. His name escapes me, but he also coached Terps super freshman Huerter. He effusively praised Gaines and predicted that the 6'4" guard forward would lead the Cats in rebounding next year. He said you guys are going to be thrilled with this kid.
On another note, I really like the Underwood hire and the rivalry on and off the court (recruiting) should be fun.
 

backdoorpass

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He effusively praised Gaines and predicted that the 6'4" guard forward would lead the Cats in rebounding next year.

With a starting center capable of 22 rebounds on a given night, that's a tall order. But it's great to hear of praise from a knowledgeable source.

I'd be thrilled if Gaines averages 10 minutes a game.
 

Walker Fan

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The primary backcourt backups will be Isiah Brown and Anthony Gaines. I do not think that Law has the handle to play in the backcourt and Ash has not shown much in two years on the team and it is hard to get minutes at SG if you don't have much of a jump shot. Isiah can play a couple of minutes with BMac, but he is 6'0" and that makes it a very small ballcourt. I think Gaines, if he is good as advertised, should be able to get 10 mpg.
 

backdoorpass

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The primary backcourt backups will be Isiah Brown and Anthony Gaines. I do not think that Law has the handle to play in the backcourt and Ash has not shown much in two years on the team and it is hard to get minutes at SG if you don't have much of a jump shot. Isiah can play a couple of minutes with BMac, but he is 6'0" and that makes it a very small ballcourt. I think Gaines, if he is good as advertised, should be able to get 10 mpg.

10 mpg would be solid. For reference, Benson averaged 8 (including the time he started while Pardon was out) and Tap averaged 12. Both were key contributors.
 
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One thing is...I have a lot of confidence in Collins developing guys like this into legit primary contributors.
 

backdoorpass

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One thing is...I have a lot of confidence in Collins developing guys like this into legit primary contributors.

Agreed. And I think that we will immediately be in a lot better shape for something like Lindsey going down for a period next season than we were this past season.
 

Deeringfish

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One thing is...I have a lot of confidence in Collins developing guys like this into legit primary contributors.

Two things I think CC does well are develop guys and get the best match ups on the floor during the flow of a game. The question I have is then will his reputation catch up to his ability?
 
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The question I have is then will his reputation catch up to his ability?

That's a fair point. Honestly though, he's going to have to keep us consistently going to the NCAAs two or three years in a row before we really need to start worrying. He still has his work cut out for him, because we all know maintaining a winner at NU is HARD!
 

backdoorpass

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Two things I think CC does well are develop guys and get the best match ups on the floor during the flow of a game. The question I have is then will his reputation catch up to his ability?

I am most impressed by CC's building the overall winning culture, setting the vision, motivating the team, getting everyone on the same page and celebrating winning together. I always enjoy checking out interviews with CC and the players. The extent to which they are all saying the same things and using the same language is impressive. CC creates metaphors that the players adopt. For example:

* The B1G season is an 18 round fight; you have to give it your best shot every single round and hope that in the end you have won more rounds than you have lost.
* Pound The Rock. You work hard every day chipping away and you may not see the progress until BAM a big chunk cracks off.
* We don't want to be the same old Northwestern. We have come close in the past. Now, we have to do things that nobody has done before if we are going to get any respect.
* And so on.

In terms of in-game coaching, I still do have an issue with our approach in the final few minutes of close games--especially when playing with the lead. Too often, we have seen leads disappear (and games lost) as the offense stops running what has been working and we just isolate BMac, run down the shot clock and hope that he will make a play. BMac has gotten a better in these situations over the past few seasons, but I still don't think it's our best option.
 

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Backdoorpass, you are right on the money. CC has instilled a winning culture and knows that it is a process when creating a new tradition. He is doing what all great coaches do, maximizing the potential of the players in regards to player development.

As for the final few minutes of close games, you bring up an excellent observation. I think that in the final couple of minutes the defense gets tighter on the main stars and you have to have playmakers or shotmakers from more than just BMac. NU now has some play makers in late game situations like BMac and Dererk who seem to thrive in late game situations since they were familiar being on winning and state champion high school teams. Scottie and Vic have developed significantly and are getting there. Brown is a playmaker. Skelly seems to be able to make a play on defense or offense at key times. But more are needed. I loved Sanjay's heart, but, I think everyone would agree, he was not a playmaker or shotmaker and defenses could sag off of him and clog the middle and try to make it more difficult for BMac to drive and penetrate. Falzon might be a perfect fit to this starting lineup as he will be able to stretch the defense with his three point shooting and he was tougher on defense than people gave him credit.

One last thing, Collins and his staff have shown an ability to understand their team's needs and recruit to fill those voids. We have not had many dribble penetrating guards with the exception of BMac and flashes of Brown doing that. From the film shown above, it appears (knock on wood) that Gaines' skillset includes the ability to dribble, penetrate and score or get fouled which was a void on the team from the two-guard position.
 
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DId you have the same confidence when Vassar and Ash were signed?

Really? Did you have the same confidence when BC was fired? We could play this game all day.

I believe Ash, right now, would be a solid contributor (mostly defensive) if he got the minutes to do so. But when there are guys better than you at your position, you aren't playing. That's also a testament to Collins.

As for Vassar...well...his own attitude and inflated ego never gave him the chance to develop.
 

YesterdaysCat

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As for Vassar...well...his own attitude and inflated ego never gave him the chance to develop.

You must have met him many times to be able to make those incendiary remarks about a current NU student. How many conversations have you had with him? Or you must know people who know him really well?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Somebody complained bitterly when I questioned whether or not Falzon would reach his potential after being injured. I wasn't impugned Aaron's character at all. Injuries are just part of the game and we can only hope that our guys recover and even work harder to be better than they were.

These comments about--again--a current NU student, whom you don't know AT ALL are completely misplaced and you should apologize.
 
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You must have met him many times to be able to make those incendiary remarks about a current NU student. How many conversations have you had with him? Or you must know people who know him really well?

Yeah, I didn't think so.

Somebody complained bitterly when I questioned whether or not Falzon would reach his potential after being injured. I wasn't impugned Aaron's character at all. Injuries are just part of the game and we can only hope that our guys recover and even work harder to be better than they were.

These comments about--again--a current NU student, whom you don't know AT ALL are completely misplaced and you should apologize.

It is what it is...Vassar did this one to himself. He chose to walk away from the team.
 

YesterdaysCat

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It is what it is...Vassar did this one to himself. He chose to walk away from the team.

Like I said, you're ignorant about the guy. You have never met him and don't know him at all. If you want to say he quit the team, that's one thing. If you're going to accuse him of having a bad "attitude and inflated ego" you have to back it up--and you simply can't. As usual.
 
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Like I said, you're ignorant about the guy. You have never met him and don't know him at all. If you want to say he quit the team, that's one thing. If you're going to accuse him of having a bad "attitude and inflated ego" you have to back it up--and you simply can't. As usual.

You've never met him either.
 

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You've never met him either.

I have met him. I've had the opportunity to play pickup games with the kid a few times over the past year at Blom. Respectful and doesn't have an inflated ego in the gym even when he's clearly the best guy on the floor.
 

YesterdaysCat

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You've never met him either.

I have met Johnnie Vassar, and I have had conversations with him in person. I have also emailed with him. You're flat-out, 100% incorrect. I have repeatedly said that I have met him and communicated with him. I have no reason to lie, when having a conversation with him is pretty darn unpopular around here.

You can continue to spew venom about him because you don't want to look in the mirror. It's a slimy thing to publicly impugn a college kid's character when you have never spent even a second around him.
 

willycat

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I have met him. I've had the opportunity to play pickup games with the kid a few times over the past year at Blom. Respectful and doesn't have an inflated ego in the gym even when he's clearly the best guy on the floor.
Maybe true but he choose to walk from the team and transfer to another program. Sounds familiar, doesn't it. When no program wanted him he hung onto a basketball schlorship, did nothing for it and deprived his former teammates of another schlorship player to help in their push through the NCAA's. Don't know about his attitude but certainly not the guy you want in the bunker with you.
 

YesterdaysCat

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He's not stating anything that implies he has. You, on the other hand....

Well, point in fact, I have met him and have emailed with him. I wouldn't say that he's my buddy or that he could pick me out of a lineup, but I have met the guy.
 

YesterdaysCat

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Maybe true but he choose to walk from the team and transfer to another program. Sounds familiar, doesn't it. When no program wanted him he hung onto a basketball schlorship, did nothing for it and deprived his former teammates of another schlorship player to help in their push through the NCAA's. Don't know about his attitude but certainly not the guy you want in the bunker with you.

Have you met him or corresponded with him? Do you have any personal knowledge about his character?

Let's get really personal. Ever been divorced? Know anybody who has been divorced? Fifty percent of marriages go bust, but in 100% of the cases, both parties have a story. That doesn't mean that you have to pick sides, and it doesn't mean that you have to pick our alma mater's side because you have personal experience with NU but none with the kid.

Listen up, I have met Coach Chris and my off-the-cuff impression is that he's a good guy. I would send my kid to play under his coaching. And I have met Johnnie and I like him, too.

It wasn't a good fit for the two of 'em, and so the blankety-blank what? There's no cause to bash a current NU student unless you know him personally and he kicked your dog.
 
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That makes VIrginia Cats post even more asinine. Let's see if he owns up to it.

Why do my responses keep getting deleted? I haven't been given a reason...they just disappear. I've said nothing but the truth in all my statements

And Vassar most certainly has an inflated ego...how else do you explain his "(I was) offered by all the top schools" statement/lie in his lawsuit? Nope...no dishonest ego there...yeesh.
 
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Vasser got a free 4 year education worth about $250-$275 K for around 30 mins. of playing time. What a lucky break for him! But the facts are he is now sueing NU and the NCAA for the damage of getting a free education from a top 15 school.

As for Falzon, it was not a serious knee injury that occurred while playing. In fact, the coaching staff did not shut him down until 5-10 games into the season. Now if some want to make things up and say a 19 year old won't rebound from knee surgery, then I would say it is more likely than not a wrong assumption.

Similar bloggers expressed concern that Vic Law would not return from labrum surgery. Ooops! Wrong again!
 

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Why do my responses keep getting deleted? I haven't been given a reason...they just disappear. I've said nothing but the truth in all my statements

And Vassar most certainly has an inflated ego...how else do you explain his "(I was) offered by all the top schools" statement/lie in his lawsuit? Nope...no dishonest ego there...yeesh.

Are you responding to the correct post? I've never posted about Vassar, and I'm not a moderator.
 
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Vasser got a free 4 year education worth about $250-$275 K for around 30 mins. of playing time. What a lucky break for him! But the facts are he is now sueing NU and the NCAA for the damage of getting a free education from a top 15 school.

Exactly...
 

Deeringfish

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Vasser got a free 4 year education worth about $250-$275 K for around 30 mins. of playing time. What a lucky break for him! But the facts are he is now sueing NU and the NCAA for the damage of getting a free education from a top 15 school.

As for Falzon, it was not a serious knee injury that occurred while playing. In fact, the coaching staff did not shut him down until 5-10 games into the season. Now if some want to make things up and say a 19 year old won't rebound from knee surgery, then I would say it is more likely than not a wrong assumption.

Similar bloggers expressed concern that Vic Law would not return from labrum surgery. Ooops! Wrong again!

I worry about guys recovering fro all these injuries. Young guys don't always recover to elite athletic status. Happy to be wrong when I am.
 

EvanstonCat

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Own up to what? That Yesterday is spinning another tall tale? :rolleyes: Lol

As Walker said, "the facts are he is now sueing NU and the NCAA for the damage of getting a free education from a top 15 school." That is fact.

What exactly are you people arguing about now?