Game of Thrones Season Eight Thread

[Chuck Lorre]

Completely agree with LineSkiCat here. Fans are stupid for not seeing that this was the proper ending, and that's not the writers' fault. The writers wrote the ending in the only way that they could based on the foreshadowing of not completely happy endings but kind of happy for some just not others.

If you didn't see Dany going mad then there is an issue with your understanding of the foreshadowing.

 

[JStaff21]

Very tough to nail a show from start to finish. Thinking about the ending, it does seem every character got what they wanted. Sansa can be a queen, Arya is the loner, sets out on her own, Jon gets to be brooding up in the North, The Hound confronted his brother, Theon was accepted by both families and died nobly. Melisandre proved there was something to the God of Light, redeemed herself.

This was never a show about happy endings. You'd think fans would have learned this when Ned, Robb and Oberyn were killed off.

I agree overall. The complaints I think have merit are the ones about it being rushed. To go from 10 episode seasons to 7 and then 6 leaves out a lot of potential content they could have covered, or at least more thoroughly covered.

Bran being king just seems off. I get it. I get what they were trying to do and the bits of logic behind it..: but it feels off.

Great show. Glad I watched. Now let’s rebuild those brothels!

 

[JStaff21]

Completely agree with LineSkiCat here. Fans are stupid for not seeing that this was the proper ending, and that's not the writers' fault. The writers wrote the ending in the only way that they could based on the foreshadowing of not completely happy endings but kind of happy for some just not others.

If you didn't see Dany going mad then there is an issue with your understanding of the foreshadowing.

I’ll certainly agree with you about Dany. That was obviously going to happen. And anyone who ignored the signs and the foreshadowing of it were fooling themselves.

 

[Chuck Lorre]

Agreed. It's important to pay attention to foreshadowing in writing. If you missed the foreshadowing in the writing about Dany going mad you should go back and study the foreshadowing more thoroughly.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

I agree overall. The complaints I think have merit are the ones about it being rushed. To go from 10 episode seasons to 7 and then 6 leaves out a lot of potential content they could have covered, or at least more thoroughly covered.

Bran being king just seems off. I get it. I get what they were trying to do and the bits of logic behind it..: but it feels off.

Great show. Glad I watched. Now let’s rebuild those brothels!

Bran's actor overall seemed meh. I wonder if he was cast as the cute kid and turned out to not have much in the way of acting. He basically sat there, squinty-eyed and awkward. His lines were dull.

Had Bran been developed a bit better (maybe a better actor to work with), been that wise/charismatic type of character, like a Tyrion.. it would have been a great ending. The underdog in a wheelchair..

Instead it was that awkward kid everyone was annoyed with for the first part of season 8.

And while it did feel rushed, each episode was an hour and a half or more, so the content was close to the same. AGreed though, could have used another season. Turning around after the whitewalkers right to KL was for sure rushed and cheapened.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Completely agree with LineSkiCat here. Fans are stupid for not seeing that this was the proper ending, and that's not the writers' fault. The writers wrote the ending in the only way that they could based on the foreshadowing of not completely happy endings but kind of happy for some just not others.

If you didn't see Dany going mad then there is an issue with your understanding of the foreshadowing.

Big talk from someone dumb enough to fire your money maker (Charlie) on the show you’re best known for. That’s why you are taking up for D&D because you know what it’s like to **** the bed and ruin an alltime great show. That’s ok Mr. Lorre, take solace in the fact that you didn’t even come close to screwing up as bad as D&D.

Also you talk about foreshadowing and all that crap but leave out how they totally went against other major events they foreshadowed like Jon killing the NK and Jamie killing Cersei.

If I’m the people doing Star Wars I seriously consider removing D&D from the project. There’s millions of furious fans that have already sworn to never watch another thing with D&D attached to it.

I truly believe fans would have been fine with the end results if it had been done differently. It’s how we got to those end results and how it was done that ruined the season. Sure there might be one or two things people still wouldn’t like but there wouldn’t be the same outrage.

Make the season 8–10 episodes, having the NK and walkers make it until the very end and all the way to Kings landing. Have the walkers actually fight and the NK actually fight. Have them much harder to kill. They win the battle at winterfell with the same heroes dying, the living heroes all retreating south to regroup. The walkers slowly following. Cersei is then forced to align with Dany to fight the dead. The dead keep winning. Knowing the prophecy Dany tells Jon he must stab her between the breasts killing the woman he loves. Crying, he does so with Longclaw, then pulls the sword out of her dead body with the sword now flaming. He finds the NK, the NK finally speaks and says why he’s doing what he’s doing. They have a 5+ minute fight with Jon winning fulfilling the prophecy. Cersei then tries to take advantage of the situation and catch Jon and the remaining army of Dany/Jon off guard and slaughter them. But before she can either Jamie kills her or Arya kills her wearing Jamie’s face.

All of that done over the course of 8-10 episodes allows for much more detail and consistency with pacing of all the other seasons.

 

[funKYcat75]

NK finally speaks and says why he’s doing what he’s doing

But his voice is like Droopy from the old cartoons.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Big talk from someone dumb enough to fire your money maker (Charlie) on the show you’re best known for. That’s why you are taking up for D&D because you know what it’s like to **** the bed and ruin an alltime great show. That’s ok Mr. Lorre, take solace in the fact that you didn’t even come close to screwing up as bad as D&D.

Also you talk about foreshadowing and all that crap but leave out how they totally went against other major events they foreshadowed like Jon killing the NK and Jamie killing Cersei.

If I’m the people doing Star Wars I seriously consider removing D&D from the project. There’s millions of furious fans that have already sworn to never watch another thing with D&D attached to it.

I truly believe fans would have been fine with the end results if it had been done differently. It’s how we got to those end results and how it was done that ruined the season. Sure there might be one or two things people still wouldn’t like but there wouldn’t be the same outrage.

Make the season 8–10 episodes, having the NK and walkers make it until the very end and all the way to Kings landing. Have the walkers actually fight and the NK actually fight. Have them much harder to kill. They win the battle at winterfell with the same heroes dying, the living heroes all retreating south to regroup. The walkers slowly following. Cersei is then forced to align with Dany to fight the dead. The dead keep winning. Knowing the prophecy Dany tells Jon he must stab her between the breasts killing the woman he loves. Crying, he does so with Longclaw, then pulls the sword out of her dead body with the sword now flaming. He finds the NK, the NK finally speaks and says why he’s doing what he’s doing. They have a 5+ minute fight with Jon winning fulfilling the prophecy. Cersei then tries to take advantage of the situation and catch Jon and the remaining army of Dany/Jon off guard and slaughter them. But before she can either Jamie kills her or Arya kills her wearing Jamie’s face.

All of that done over the course of 8-10 episodes allows for much more detail and consistency with pacing of all the other seasons.

Almost everyone bemoans a series finale though. But as time passes, it settles in. Think of The Sopranos.. people went nuts over the last season or two, culminating with a finale almost universally hated.

But now it's seen by many as a brilliant ending, and The Sopranos as a whole is considered one of the GOATs.

I don't think anyone is really going to not watch something by D&D.. this isn't all on them, anyways.

 

[funKYcat75]

But his voice is like Droopy from the old cartoons.

"I'm sowwy jon. it was just weally fweezing up dere above de wall. We just wanted some good weather, is all."

 

[krazykats]

Isn’t there rumors already of spinoffs? It just doesn’t seem like a series finale at all. More like a time for new beginnings, which if that were the case the ending is a good one.

Hate repeating that, but that’s the only thing that makes sense right now.

 

[Chuck Lorre]

LineSkiCat again coming from the top rope and setting things straight with facts and logic.

Zaytoven, you have to let it simmer a bit and work on your foreshadowing skills. It's not the easiest thing to learn but with practice you'll get it. When people look at this show in the future they will see that D&D did everything they possibly could have to end this show in a great way.

For example, the way they foreshadowed Dany going mad was masterful. Did you catch that they did that? If not, you will after some practice.

 

[funKYcat75]

Isn’t there rumors already of spinoffs? It just doesn’t seem like a series finale at all. More like a time for new beginnings, which if that were the case the ending is a good one.

Hate repeating that, but that’s the only thing that makes sense right now.

Prequel seems to be a certainty. I think the rest are rumors. Don't think you'd see any of this cast in anything GOT-related.

 

[MarvinHagler89]

Prequel seems to be a certainty. I think the rest are rumors. Don't think you'd see any of this cast in anything GOT-related.

Spinoffs are indeed rumors but the prequels are happening.

 

[ky8335]

This fan fiction epilogue isn't bad:

 

[ky8335]

The Game of Thrones writers also wrote the "Flowers for Charlie" episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

So they don't always screw up.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

This was never a show about happy endings. You'd think fans would have learned this when Ned, Robb and Oberyn were killed off.

Noone said it had to be happy. Just make sense. Just look at ned or hodor for proof of that.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Noone said it had to be happy. Just make sense. Just look at ned or hodor for proof of that.

I think it makes sense. Dany was on a path to madness and Jon was the only one who could stop her, as he was the only one she would allow in (not Jorah and others). Sansa got to be queen. Arya was always a bit of a cast-away, shes doing her own thing.

I guess making Bran king wasn't the best choice... but Jon dIdn't want it, Dany is dead, Arya is too rouge.. I guess Sansa made the most sense, seein g as how she turned her character around and seemd to not only be good at it, but liked it too.

Everything else though seemed to make perfect sense. If you ask me, it seems mant GoT fans are a bit simplistic, wanting Dany and Jon to unite and make babies. Things are never easy in Westeros, even for main characters.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

I think it makes sense. Dany was on a path to madness and Jon was the only one who could stop her, as he was the only one she would allow in (not Jorah and others). Sansa got to be queen. Arya was always a bit of a cast-away, shes doing her own thing.

I guess making Bran king wasn't the best choice... but Jon dIdn't want it, Dany is dead, Arya is too rouge.. I guess Sansa made the most sense, seein g as how she turned her character around and seemd to not only be good at it, but liked it too.

Everything else though seemed to make perfect sense. If you ask me, it seems mant GoT fans are a bit simplistic, wanting Dany and Jon to unite and make babies. Things are never easy in Westeros, even for main characters.

Dany and Jon were never going to be together. So much of the final season was absurd. No prince, nothing from bran, Arya killing the night king by jumping out of the bushes, Jon killing Dany like he did, etc.

Compare that to any other season. No comparison. It was still entertaining. But it fell way short of the rest while having what should've been the most explosive content

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Dany and Jon were never going to be together. So much of the final season was absurd. No prince, nothing from bran, Arya killing the night king by jumping out of the bushes, Jon killing Dany like he did, etc.

Compare that to any other season. No comparison. It was still entertaining. But it fell way short of the rest while having what should've been the most explosive content

Yes, I'm more along the lines of Season 8 being a bit weak, then simply the finale being weak. Plenty of bone-headed moments throughout season 8. Like Dothraki soldiers charging the dead in the dark? Dumb.

 

[Free_Salato_Blue]

Yes, I'm more along the lines of Season 8 being a bit weak, then simply the finale being weak. Plenty of bone-headed moments throughout season 8. Like Dothraki soldiers charging the dead in the dark? Dumb.

It was fine, her Dothraki seem to multiply like rabbits.
She started out with far less Unsullied. After all the battles from Slaver's Bay to King's Landing, their fighting force hasn't seemed to diminish.
Perhaps she was making her own eunuch warriors along the way.

 

[WildMoon]

Finale for me was okay....

But that's only because season 8 has been catastrophe.

Just didn't have any connection to what was happening in the show...

 

[d2atTech]

The Game of Thrones writers also wrote the "Flowers for Charlie" episode of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

So they don't always screw up.

Nooo way! That was an amazing episode!!

 

[ky8335]

Nooo way! That was an amazing episode!!

They also had cameos as the lifeguards in the episode "The Gang Goes to the Waterpark".

 

[d2atTech]

They also had cameos as the lifeguards in the episode "The Gang Goes to the Waterpark".

lol also one of my more favorite episode....i adopted the term "fringe class" from it!

time to make a cross-over series: "The Gang Out Kayne's Westeros"

 

[Xception]

Tyrion spent five seasons being right at almost every turn, then spent three season being wrong at almost every turn. I guess him wanting to believe in something better clouded his judgment.

 

[Neko Majin]

Why is Bronn on the King's council?I dare you to make sense of it. Oh wait it's another thing they gave no time to. He is the Lord of the Reach. Maybe let's see him become, or not. What's the point of explaining things or character development.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Big talk from someone dumb enough to fire your money maker (Charlie) on the show you’re best known for. That’s why you are taking up for D&D because you know what it’s like to **** the bed and ruin an alltime great show. That’s ok Mr. Lorre, take solace in the fact that you didn’t even come close to screwing up as bad as D&D.

Also you talk about foreshadowing and all that crap but leave out how they totally went against other major events they foreshadowed like Jon killing the NK and Jamie killing Cersei.

If I’m the people doing Star Wars I seriously consider removing D&D from the project. There’s millions of furious fans that have already sworn to never watch another thing with D&D attached to it.

I truly believe fans would have been fine with the end results if it had been done differently. It’s how we got to those end results and how it was done that ruined the season. Sure there might be one or two things people still wouldn’t like but there wouldn’t be the same outrage.

Make the season 8–10 episodes, having the NK and walkers make it until the very end and all the way to Kings landing. Have the walkers actually fight and the NK actually fight. Have them much harder to kill. They win the battle at winterfell with the same heroes dying, the living heroes all retreating south to regroup. The walkers slowly following. Cersei is then forced to align with Dany to fight the dead. The dead keep winning. Knowing the prophecy Dany tells Jon he must stab her between the breasts killing the woman he loves. Crying, he does so with Longclaw, then pulls the sword out of her dead body with the sword now flaming. He finds the NK, the NK finally speaks and says why he’s doing what he’s doing. They have a 5+ minute fight with Jon winning fulfilling the prophecy. Cersei then tries to take advantage of the situation and catch Jon and the remaining army of Dany/Jon off guard and slaughter them. But before she can either Jamie kills her or Arya kills her wearing Jamie’s face.

All of that done over the course of 8-10 episodes allows for much more detail and consistency with pacing of all the other seasons.

Yes it's easy to say you want 8-10 episodes but when you're spending the budget of a blockbuster film every episode theres only so long you can go. That and as many characters that were on the show it would be impossible to draw every character a proper close. Its either bring it to an end or risk running it to the ground like walking dead or something.

Again, there is no way anyone would be happy with any ending..and jon or dany coming out on top would have been corny as ****. Considering the themes of the whole thing. Again, jon...clearly says he doesnt want to be involved in politics...lives with the free ppl. Dany so obsessed with doing the right thing becomes blinded by it to see how she what shes become, The stark family..which is the focus from the start and what the right family culture can do for resilience...the show ended with all of them. And others like jaimie...that no matter how much they change their values will resurface and stay the same.

I'm not sure what else you could have wanted unless you wanted the end made just for you where you predicted all of it. Sure, I'd like to have seen some focus on some other things if the had time permit...but it wasnt part of the overall theme and story. Apparently theres online therapy for the show if you need it.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

And we've had ome guy on here talk about "the prince that was promised" after literally every episode this season. We get it bro...the show strayed from the books

 

[kafka0117]

TMZ reported that DNA testing predicted early on that Bran would be 8' tall and weigh 92 lbs. Consequently, they had to paralyze him, make him sit in a chair and cover him with bearskin, so you couldn't see his size 23 boots.

 

[ZaytovenCat]

Yes it's easy to say you want 8-10 episodes but when you're spending the budget of a blockbuster film every episode theres only so long you can go. That and as many characters that were on the show it would be impossible to draw every character a proper close. Its either bring it to an end or risk running it to the ground like walking dead or something.

Again, there is no way anyone would be happy with any ending..and jon or dany coming out on top would have been corny as ****. Considering the themes of the whole thing. Again, jon...clearly says he doesnt want to be involved in politics...lives with the free ppl. Dany so obsessed with doing the right thing becomes blinded by it to see how she what shes become, The stark family..which is the focus from the start and what the right family culture can do for resilience...the show ended with all of them. And others like jaimie...that no matter how much they change their values will resurface and stay the same.

I'm not sure what else you could have wanted unless you wanted the end made just for you where you predicted all of it. Sure, I'd like to have seen some focus on some other things if the had time permit...but it wasnt part of the overall theme and story. Apparently theres online therapy for the show if you need it.

********, all of it. Money wouldn’t have been any issue. Hbo themselves wanted it to go longer.

It’s fine, just admit you’re a D&D fanboy who would defend it no matter what.

 

[thebluestripes]

In the end, jon got snowed...

 

[PFJ_Reg]

I don't think the end-state was horrible--other than King Bran--but it should've happened organically, not compressed into two or three episodes. That's been my biggest gripe. There's a fine line between "foreshadowing" and "bait-and-switch." It felt like this season was the latter, thanks mainly to the awful pacing.

So, wouldn't Bran know what's to the west of Westeros, or be able to find out? And wouldn't he be able to warg into Drogon and find out where he is?

 

[neilborders]

Bran becoming king is horrible IMO. Not for lack of qualifications but because of his personality, who he is and what he became. He should’ve been the one person on the planet who wanted the job less than Jon Snow.

I think the best ending would’ve been to end the monarchy and return to being seven independent kingdoms, the way it was before The Targaryens ever set foot in Westeros.

Alternatively I think almost anyone would’ve been better suited to be king/Queen: Jon, Sansa, Tyrion, even Gendry or Sam.

 

[WildMoon]

Yes it's easy to say you want 8-10 episodes but when you're spending the budget of a blockbuster film every episode theres only so long you can go. That and as many characters that were on the show it would be impossible to draw every character a proper close. Its either bring it to an end or risk running it to the ground like walking dead or something.

Again, there is no way anyone would be happy with any ending..and jon or dany coming out on top would have been corny as ****. Considering the themes of the whole thing. Again, jon...clearly says he doesnt want to be involved in politics...lives with the free ppl. Dany so obsessed with doing the right thing becomes blinded by it to see how she what shes become, The stark family..which is the focus from the start and what the right family culture can do for resilience...the show ended with all of them. And others like jaimie...that no matter how much they change their values will resurface and stay the same.

I'm not sure what else you could have wanted unless you wanted the end made just for you where you predicted all of it. Sure, I'd like to have seen some focus on some other things if the had time permit...but it wasnt part of the overall theme and story. Apparently theres online therapy for the show if you need it.

this is just lazy and dumb.

1. Budget issue is NOT an issue. Stop making **** up. HBO subscription sky rocketed when GoT premiered, and its also the subscription most likely to LOSE membership when the show ends. (which reminds me I have to go cancel my subscription). We are talking about MILLIONS of members here, not just few thousands. If they had run episodes longer, they would have more content for longer time giving opportunity for other shows to hook subscribers. (of course another month of subscription can easily generate millions of dollars)

('Game of Thrones' Earns THREE times the viewers of ANY OTHER HBO show')

2. second stupid **** about budget argument is, we aren't talking about damn war. Cool dragons or even direwolves. Even Emilia Clarke said it... dialogue. We love watching that, that's actually what DREW Got fans in the first place. If you are going to tell me dialogue scenes would have caused budge issue, then they would never have made it season 8. HBO said they had no issue with 10 episodes...they probably would love to do season 9. (considering battle scenes that can take up an episode, they could have easily have done that to really tell the story right). (imagine the revenue if that did happen...)

you know...Jon and Dany was supposed to be in love with each other...when Jon killed Dany. Anyone actually feel that? The sacrifice Jon made? of course not...they didn't build that **** up so no one even discussing it. **** looked like Jon killed a mad ***** (yawn...).

3. Enough with lazy "not everyone is going to like the ending" argument. stop generalizing...then why was "endgame" so much more accepted than GoT (Got is extremely divided comparatively to other great shows). Hodor had much better ending than Cersei, Jaime, and freaking Dany (freaking COMBINED). I don't care who sits on the throne, I don't care who wins the battle. If we did...no one would actually be watching GoT. What is bothering is how lacking the content to get there was.

everything was so rushed, it's hard to feel anything about it. Season finale did okay for what it was set up to be, which wasn't much. The season was just awful. Story arcs didn't make any sense half the time when you take the story within the show (ignoring the books).

Bran would be much more ******* awesome had he used his power to set up the whole thing. People say it was little finger...but what if Bran did create the mad king...what if he did start the Robert's rebellion...Who would argue then...? Bran has so much to work with, and they decided not to. Again, his scene would be low budge as FUCKKKKK.

I can keep going on with every damn character...'what happened?'

but whatever, could have been greatest show. Lost source content and they jumbled around and wasn't sure how to create a great story, so they rushed to an end that they were believe is GRRM end (which is OBVIOUSLY the reason behind shorten season). (Which I am highly doubting, considering how much more detail oriented GRRM is)

 

[ky8335]

I like the idea that the dragon will occasionally return to King's Landing and attack on it's own every few years.

 

[WonderBraa]

Only problem I have is Sana’a being a jealous B and not joining the seven kingdoms. Don’t create more diversity, geeze.

 

[beltieboy_rivals376542]

I was generally satisfied with with where everyone ended up, just not how they got there. But I guess when I judge it against the pacing set by these past 2 seasons, that’s about the best I can hope for.

 

[neilborders]

Only problem I have is Sana’a being a jealous B and not joining the seven kingdoms. Don’t create more diversity, geeze.

It’s weird that the other lords of Westeros just sat back and didn’t object nor request autonomy of their own.

 

[Catman100]

Pacing’s ***. The pace was rushed like last one out the door gets the tab. Did the show a major disservice.

 

[CatOfDaVille]

Pacing’s ***. The pace was rushed like last one out the door gets the tab. Did the show a major disservice.

Of course it was. HBO offered D&D more episodes (and seasons), but they said no thanks.

They were ready to move on and write the new Star Wars trilogy... that much is obvious.