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Stormsurge1

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I didn’t say crest isn’t any good….besides this is a response to your crazy bet scenario. I don’t think anybody is as good as they were last year….thats all I’ve ever stated.
I am not arguing that was NOT an easier road than most years (16). I know what the record was the first month or so.
so your hot take is that ten years ago most of the teams beat in 2016 are now 4a? Right- like SP should be 4a if SC is. What is the adm difference ….30 kids?
Here is a hot take…the NCHSSA says 30 kids too many.
 

Stormsurge1

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I offer up fair wagers based off the last 13 years of where SP has been and where SC has been. East Belmont and the Peach Orchard is just not as fearless as it used to be.
 

DeBoer31

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I offer up fair wagers based off the last 13 years of where SP has been and where SC has been. East Belmont and the Peach Orchard is just not as fearless as it used
It’s funny Stuart framer was never this bold when they were playing in the class they are supposed to be in. I would bet a whole lot of money with you if Sc was 5a.
 
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Stormsurge1

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It’s funny Stuart framer was never this bold when they were playing in the class they are supposed to be in. I would bet a whole lot of money with you if Sc was 5a.
Coaching changes not changes in classifications. However please quit whining about being in 5A. Just win games 3 yards at a time with a SC fullback. Oh yeah and teach Rockshow how to spell or be funny or just anything.
 

Stormsurge1

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Its Kramer ….. he respectful :cool:
Rockshow, you just seem like a guy who has never broken a rule in your life. How do you feel about Deboer begging to move down to 4A? I mean the rules clearly state that SP is 5A and SC is 4A. We follow the rules at SC, and I can respect a gentleman and a scholar like you for not taking the whiny route like Deboer.
 

DeBoer31

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Coaching changes not changes in classifications. However please quit whining about being in 5A. Just win games 3 yards at a time with a SC fullback. Oh yeah and teach Rockshow how to spell or be funny or just anything.
That kid isn't an SC fullback....he didn't do anything there. He is a SP fullback because he's at SP.
That one coach came and made yall good? We about to find out.
 

DeBoer31

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Rockshow, you just seem like a guy who has never broken a rule in your life. How do you feel about Deboer begging to move down to 4A? I mean the rules clearly state that SP is 5A and SC is 4A. We follow the rules at SC, and I can respect a gentleman and a scholar like you for not taking the whiny route like Deboer.
I'm not begging to move to 4a. They put SC in 4a because of all the whining. Everybody knows. Nobody over there was real quiet about it. Propositioning to be at a lower level....and the poor old coach didn't even get to enjoy it. All at once...go down and be one of the biggest 4a schools in the classification, play the weaker conference and immediately run and hide from playing SP. Kudos.
 
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Stormsurge1

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I'm not begging to move to 4a. They put SC in 4a because of all the whining. Everybody knows. Nobody over there was real quiet about it. Propositioning to be at a lower level....and the poor old coach didn't even get to enjoy it. All at once...go down and be one of the biggest 4a schools in the classification, play the weaker conference and immediately run and hide from playing SP. Kudos.
Nope totally determined by enrollment. Distinctly remember hearing all the SP fans saying man that is going to help you be a little more competitive, however low and behold when you become a lot more competitive, you start whining about redrawing the lines. Trust me everyone knows that. Coach is the reason for the turnaround and culture change. You don’t have to believe me, ask any parent and see what they say.
 

Stormsurge1

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However this group of kids have been good for a while. You guys took advantage of 15 of them starting when they were 15-16 years old. Kudos for that. Playing against kids as juniors and seniors is totally different than playing against seniors when you are a loaded with sophmores. Wise man told me that once.
 

TheRockShow

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Nope totally determined by enrollment. Distinctly remember hearing all the SP fans saying man that is going to help you be a little more competitive, however low and behold when you become a lot more competitive, you start whining about redrawing the lines. Trust me everyone knows that. Coach is the reason for the turnaround and culture change. You don’t have to believe me, ask any parent and see what they say.
Dang right …. lines need to be redrawn. Time for The Big Red Machine to demand it. The Red Raider nation ready to speak up and be loud…. getting tired of being the red headed step child.

Belmont against everybody!
 

TheRockShow

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Rockshow, you just seem like a guy who has never broken a rule in your life. How do you feel about Deboer begging to move down to 4A? I mean the rules clearly state that SP is 5A and SC is 4A. We follow the rules at SC, and I can respect a gentleman and a scholar like you for not taking the whiny route like Deboer.
Flattery …..accepted. Dont care who you play. Beat everyone and win a State Championship. Will just make your future losses to SP that much more painful.

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DeBoer31

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Nope totally determined by enrollment. Distinctly remember hearing all the SP fans saying man that is going to help you be a little more competitive, however low and behold when you become a lot more competitive, you start whining about redrawing the lines. Trust me everyone knows that. Coach is the reason for the turnaround and culture change. You don’t have to believe me, ask any parent and see what they say.
So this culture change didn’t occur the very instant you started playing HT, Bc, cherryville for the majority of your schedule….and simultaneously ejected SP off the schedule?
 

DeBoer31

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However this group of kids have been good for a while. You guys took advantage of 15 of them starting when they were 15-16 years old. Kudos for that. Playing against kids as juniors and seniors is totally different than playing against seniors when you are a loaded with sophmores. Wise man told me that once.
That’s absolutely true…but when have yall not played a bunch of jrs/srs?
 

Stormsurge1

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So this culture change didn’t occur the very instant you started playing HT, Bc, cherryville for the majority of your schedule….and simultaneously ejected SP off the schedule?
Culture change happened the moment the coaching change happened. Here are some facts from the last few years of the previous regime. These are not opinions they are facts.
KM (starting DB and starting center)
Palisades (starting WR)
Crest (starting DE)
SP (starting FB)
Robinson (starting RB)
Ashbrook (starting QB and stating DE who win DPOY for them)
That is just a few of the players who started out at Cramer before the coaching change and left over the last 3-5 years (not recruited just got the heck out of dodge). Also there are several players on this current team who would not be on it if the change didn’t happen. The QB from last year, the QB from this year, the leading tackler so far from this year at LB all came here because of the coaching change. So yes the culture change happened because of the coaching change. You can bring up BC and HT but common opponents the last few years before the change are FV, NG, and EG. Cramer had a below 500 record against these teams the last 3 years before the coaching change and they are currently 5-0 against these teams since the change. Your arguments have no substance. I wasn’t privy to the meetings about removing SP for two years in all sports and spoiler alert the current football coach wasn’t either. Again I know Cramer has never beat SP in football but we both know it is coming. Whether it be next year or the year after or the year after. All I can say is the Cramer team you will see the next time you see them against SP is not the team you saw before the coaching change. I’m sure SP will be as tough as they always are. Again if you are trying to get some motivation by me saying anything negative about SP it won’t happen. I will wish them luck the rest of the season. I will also continue to read your posts about how no one at SP cares about SC while the entire post is about SC. I will leave you with one of my favorite SP sayings “tradition never graduates”. Have a great weekend.
 

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Dang right …. lines need to be redrawn. Time for The Big Red Machine to demand it. The Red Raider nation ready to speak up and be loud…. getting tired of being the red headed step child.

Belmont against everybody!
Does that mean Cramer gets Reid Park? We've got some family friends down in there who are zoned for South Point
 

Stormsurge1

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Does that mean Cramer gets Reid Park? We've got some family friends down in there who are zoned for South Point
I highly doubt it and it shouldn’t leave the SP district. That is right in the heart of Belmont and those kids should go to SP. Current SP neighborhoods that don’t go to Belmont Middle are (Tailwood Marina, neighborhood next to JR Cash they go to MHMS) and Cramer Woods (Cramerton Middle). I also think the neighborhoods across from Cramer Woods go to SP also. Neighborhoods that go to Belmont Middle and come to SC are Eagle Park, Timberlake, and Lakewood. Again I am only putting the bigger neighborhoods I am aware of for this hypothesis. MHMS is split up about 85% go to Cramer, 13% go to EG, and about 2% go to Belmont. BMMS is split up to about 90% go to SP and about 8% go to Cramer and probably 2% go to FV. Split it up anyway you want to. All it sounds like to me is if SP gets all the neighborhoods that go to Belmont they will stay in 5A and if Cramer picks up the hoods that go to MH they will stay in 4A. Not really sure what changes they want. Rock show. Belmont vs everyone, can you elaborate on how you want the lines drawn. Dont disappoint me, I gave you a lot of compliments yesterday.
 

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Culture change happened the moment the coaching change happened. Here are some facts from the last few years of the previous regime. These are not opinions they are facts.
KM (starting DB and starting center)
Palisades (starting WR)
Crest (starting DE)
SP (starting FB)
Robinson (starting RB)
Ashbrook (starting QB and stating DE who win DPOY for them)
That is just a few of the players who started out at Cramer before the coaching change and left over the last 3-5 years (not recruited just got the heck out of dodge). Also there are several players on this current team who would not be on it if the change didn’t happen. The QB from last year, the QB from this year, the leading tackler so far from this year at LB all came here because of the coaching change. So yes the culture change happened because of the coaching change. You can bring up BC and HT but common opponents the last few years before the change are FV, NG, and EG. Cramer had a below 500 record against these teams the last 3 years before the coaching change and they are currently 5-0 against these teams since the change. Your arguments have no substance. I wasn’t privy to the meetings about removing SP for two years in all sports and spoiler alert the current football coach wasn’t either. Again I know Cramer has never beat SP in football but we both know it is coming. Whether it be next year or the year after or the year after. All I can say is the Cramer team you will see the next time you see them against SP is not the team you saw before the coaching change. I’m sure SP will be as tough as they always are. Again if you are trying to get some motivation by me saying anything negative about SP it won’t happen. I will wish them luck the rest of the season. I will also continue to read your posts about how no one at SP cares about SC while the entire post is about SC. I will leave you with one of my favorite SP sayings “tradition never graduates”. Have a great weekend.
Don't forget Braylon Clark.
 
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DeBoer31

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Culture change happened the moment the coaching change happened. Here are some facts from the last few years of the previous regime. These are not opinions they are facts.
KM (starting DB and starting center)
Palisades (starting WR)
Crest (starting DE)
SP (starting FB)
Robinson (starting RB)
Ashbrook (starting QB and stating DE who win DPOY for them)
That is just a few of the players who started out at Cramer before the coaching change and left over the last 3-5 years (not recruited just got the heck out of dodge). Also there are several players on this current team who would not be on it if the change didn’t happen. The QB from last year, the QB from this year, the leading tackler so far from this year at LB all came here because of the coaching change. So yes the culture change happened because of the coaching change. You can bring up BC and HT but common opponents the last few years before the change are FV, NG, and EG. Cramer had a below 500 record against these teams the last 3 years before the coaching change and they are currently 5-0 against these teams since the change. Your arguments have no substance. I wasn’t privy to the meetings about removing SP for two years in all sports and spoiler alert the current football coach wasn’t either. Again I know Cramer has never beat SP in football but we both know it is coming. Whether it be next year or the year after or the year after. All I can say is the Cramer team you will see the next time you see them against SP is not the team you saw before the coaching change. I’m sure SP will be as tough as they always are. Again if you are trying to get some motivation by me saying anything negative about SP it won’t happen. I will wish them luck the rest of the season. I will also continue to read your posts about how no one at SP cares about SC while the entire post is about SC. I will leave you with one of my favorite SP sayings “tradition never graduates”. Have a great weekend.
You are the one constantly talking about SC….the one. Some of us just talk back to you about it. SC will never beat SP BECAUSE they won’t schedule them in football.
 

Stormsurge1

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You are the one constantly talking about SC….the one. Some of us just talk back to you about it. SC will never beat SP BECAUSE they won’t schedule them in football.
I like you. I maybe the only one on here who does, but Deboer is my guy. He talks reason when everyone on here is talking nonsense!!!!
 
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DeBoer31

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I like you. I maybe the only one on here who does, but Deboer is my guy. He talks reason when everyone on here is talking nonsense!!!!
Most people do not like a man who calls it straight. All the built up narratives and tall tales are great….but none of that matters in a man’s world unless you are willing to put your hand in the ground and blow the G D whistle.
 
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Stormsurge1

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Most people do not like a man who calls it straight. All the built up narratives and tall tales are great….but none of that matters in a man’s world unless you are willing to put your hand in the ground and blow the G D whistle.
Like I said I like you. Unfortunately I am not in charge of scheduling at Stuart Cramer. I may see if I can get on that committee in the future.
 

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Ashbrook at South Point is my game of the week. I now believe this will be a competitive game. I was impressed with Ashbrook in their loss. Their skill guys have great speed and the quarterback is a playmaker. Whoever’s defense can slow the other down is going to win this one.
 
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DeBoer31

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Ashbrook at South Point is my game of the week. I now believe this will be a competitive game. I was impressed with Ashbrook in their loss. Their skill guys have great speed and the quarterback is a playmaker. Whoever’s defense can slow the other down is going to win this one.
This is the game of the week at any classification in the western half of the state.
Ashbrook has to replace a lost army of players….but they do have some big offensive skill weapons. One problem I see for them….they lost those linemen on both sides that were so good.
 

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We already know they are gonna shut down that SC Fullback... so the SP QB should eat...and the pitch man... we'll see..
SP 28 AB 28....
THEN OT SP 35 AB 34
 
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