GD93 would like to personally congratulate the Bolingbrook Raiders on their 22-21 win last night against Homewood-Flossmoor. Good luck in the 8A play-offs. You guys earned it and deserve it!
GD93--Congrats to Bolingbrook Raiders!!!!
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It was cool, I went outside and there were pigs flying around all over the place.
I'd be interested to know, what happened at this game. What did Brooks do to shut down the HF offense? Like I said on another thread, this game will be studied by lots of teams over the next few weeks.
What difference does it make if he responds to Wittman's post? At the risk of sounding like GD's (much smarter and well-read) alter-ego, I don't blame him for not responding to Wittman's post, because nothing positive could be gained from it. GD made the statement that most intelligent posters seemed to call for: he offered congratulations to Bolingbrook without excuse or attack. Can't it just be left at that?
Really, Robert? Is your history with GD so vast that you feel qualified to offer such deeply analytical commentary?
In contrast, BWM clearly gets it. A good-natured poke that summed-up the import of GD's statement in one line. Well-said BWM. Thanks.
Thank you, Chuck, for a great question that will hopefully spark some interesting conversation. I'd like to know others' thoughts on that game as well. I'm happy to provide mine.
From what I saw, Bolingbrook was able to largely shut down HF's inside running game. What perplexed me was why HF continued to try to run between the tackles, where you are running right into Tuff Borland (who is a stud and was clearly the best player on that field Friday night). HF ran outside a couple of times with some success (including one TD). I don't have enough experience with HF's offense to know if it generally runs inside with the read option. But it would seem that it would have the speed with those twin running backs to get outside or to maybe throw swing passes to them coming out of the backfield. HF didn't do that.
Bolingbrook was also able to shut down HF's passing game. Bolingbrook double-covered HF's good wide receiver (the Wisconsin commit) with a corner underneath and a safety over the top, and HF didn't adjust. It seemed that HF could have thrown the ball into the flat or with some wide receiver screens (again to get away from Borland) and open up the passing game, but it didn't do that. It could have been because of the off-and-on rain; I don't know.
On offense, Bolingbrook was able to pound the ball with a power running game, and they threw the ball to their big running back and to Borland, who is a tight end on offense. HF's defense looks like it would be very susceptible to a power running game and to a team with big receivers. (Oh-oh for HF vs Loyola.)
And finally, Bolingbrook's kick-off and punt teams were clearly better than HF's. Bolingbrook consistently pinned HF deep with punts, and the one "bad" punt that Bolingbrook had ended up bouncing off of an HF player (who was running down the field to get ready to block), and Bolingbrook recovered the ball.
Again, I'm just offering my untrained observations. I'll admit that I have taken a liking to HF, having watched them early in the season and being impressed by how fun it is to see that offense when it is in high-gear. I'd be interested to know if anyone else watched the game and what their observations are.
I did not watch this game ( had my own to observe). But the wind and the rain made it real tough to go toward the south. You had to take advantage when you were heading to the north. In the game I officiated every TD was in the north end zone. As they say "Weather the great equalizer"
Dude, I love the passion but you got to pace yourself. I know from experience. You can't argue every poster in every thread and have anything left for the finish. Cheers
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Is GD growing up or are we being suckered in? Either way it was a nice post and will leave at that.
Thanks. Good advice. (Which I just didn't follow but will.)
According to one article both H-H twins eclipsed the 100 yard mark with nearly 20 carries each. I wouldnt say we shut down the inside running game, especially compared to the playoff game where they had a combined 75 yards I think. They typically go inside but are able to make people miss and bounce it out. We did a good job of limiting the long TD's and plays in general. That combined with the poor weather making it difficult to really open it up surely contributed to the results. I was at the DGS/HF game and it was like they could score from any place on the field with about 5 different people.
I think the biggest contributor was that we stopped turning the ball over which has been a staple of our offense this season (at one point this game we ran two offensive plays and had 2 turnovers). We stayed with the power running more or less and were actually able to move the chains. In other games where we didnt seem dedicated to power running we struggle to get yards at all and the D plays whole games.
All in all, I like our DL & LB's, I dont know if they can be duplicated by many other teams and our DB's played a lot better.
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I don't know what you guys want from GD. To me his posts are no worse than a lot of others on this board who root for their teams unapologetically. This is a good post that congratulates their opponent. Nicely done GD.
This kind of stuff generated by some of the bullies on the board is why, as I said, people don't post on this board.
GD, I'm pulling for all of the SWSB teams in the playoffs! Good luck to HF!
This kind of stuff generated by some of the bullies on the board is why, as I said, people don't post on this board.
GD, I'm pulling for all of the SWSB teams in the playoffs! Good luck to HF!
Dear lord. I see to pot shots from non posters and a singly blowoff from someone that obviously has a history.
Come on Eyeore, you just gotta stop the bellyaching and move on from your Catholic School Bully platform.
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Captbillhitters, did I say anything in the post above about Catholic league?
I'm defending GD here. You don't like it? Tough.
I'm defending GD here. You don't like it? Tough.
No but you insinuated that bullies have driven posters away here. In the last 25 posts you have made you have mentioned either of the following:
I hear Eyeore in your posts because it always the same story, and none of it has to do with actual football.
Are there bullies sure. Does everyone have that one poster that makes their blood boil? Sure. But there are so many people talking about football on this board beyond the tools (and yes, I understand you see me as one of those tools Gwar) that you just have to let go of the past and carve out a space that interests you. If you can't find one, that sucks and I am sorry. I wasn't around during the glory days for which you seem quite fond. I bet it was a blast.
The repeated victim mentality is tired
- Only Catholic schools matters on this board
- Bullies are mean and chase away normal posters who just want to talk football
- It ain't like it used to be around here
I hear Eyeore in your posts because it always the same story, and none of it has to do with actual football.
Are there bullies sure. Does everyone have that one poster that makes their blood boil? Sure. But there are so many people talking about football on this board beyond the tools (and yes, I understand you see me as one of those tools Gwar) that you just have to let go of the past and carve out a space that interests you. If you can't find one, that sucks and I am sorry. I wasn't around during the glory days for which you seem quite fond. I bet it was a blast.
The repeated victim mentality is tired
I never would have guessed that HF rushed for more than 200 yards. Maybe a total of 100 yards. I'm really surprised.
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Sorry Mr Hitters. You haven't been around here very long so I'm not sure you are qualified to give history lessons.
If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. I really don't care.
If you don't like what I have to say, don't read it. I really don't care.
Based on what you and Bones said, one key is to cut down the explosive nature of the HF offense, which is easier said than done. There are maybe 10 teams in the state that could hold them to 3 or 4 touchdowns. Now, I've only watched them on The Cube, but I think their 5 offensive threats are really only 3.5, but a really good 3.5. So most teams will get killed by that since most defenses in 8A are not capable of slowing them down.
But, on the other side of the ball, and contrary to the dark side ranking, I have been much less impressed with HF. I think a team with a strong offense, one with more than 1 or 2 threats, can stay on the field with HF, thereby keeping the HF offense on the sidelines, and matching them TD for TD.
Given all that, I'd guess thet get 2 major tests in round 3 and 4. If they survive those tests, they'll win 8A.
We actually were able to run the ball with fairly good success. Bones was correct, we did have over 200 yards on the ground. The weather did have an impact but it certainly did not cost us the game. I honestly think that our couches called the game "not to lose" instead of "playing to win". I think we have too conservative of a game plan. The Brooks DBs were playing 12 - 15 yards off of our WR but we rarely threw the intermediate passes (slants, flats, bubble screens, come backs) which we have done in the past. I actually think we went deep too often. I think the three or so (incomplete) deep balls may have been three or two too many for a few were into the wind. WR Pryor had 1 completion and I think we have only 10 - 12 pass attempts all game. Again, I simply think we abandoned the shorter passes and getting the balls into the playmakers on the perimeter.
BB also outcoached us. They had a smashmouth gameplan that kept the ball in their hands, kept the clock moving, and continued to gain yards. When they threw the ball, they generally were not as effective aside from the incredible catch that Borland made to get them in field goal range.
However, the biggest issue in my mind is that our players felt the game was over before it started. I do not think they were ready to play a very focused BB team. I think we have been reading our press clippings way too much and watching the Drive way too much (and taking it all to heart). BB will ALWAYS play HF tough and they will ALWAYS be well prepared. I did not think our team (and coaches) were up to the task. They expected the team that lost to Sandberg and Lockport and turned the ball over many times each game.
It will either be the best thing that happens to HF or the beginning of the end of a highly anticipated season. IF they can regroup and refocus and realize that they are NOT unbeatable, it may propel them back to where they expected to be in the finals. If not then......
BB also outcoached us. They had a smashmouth gameplan that kept the ball in their hands, kept the clock moving, and continued to gain yards. When they threw the ball, they generally were not as effective aside from the incredible catch that Borland made to get them in field goal range.
However, the biggest issue in my mind is that our players felt the game was over before it started. I do not think they were ready to play a very focused BB team. I think we have been reading our press clippings way too much and watching the Drive way too much (and taking it all to heart). BB will ALWAYS play HF tough and they will ALWAYS be well prepared. I did not think our team (and coaches) were up to the task. They expected the team that lost to Sandberg and Lockport and turned the ball over many times each game.
It will either be the best thing that happens to HF or the beginning of the end of a highly anticipated season. IF they can regroup and refocus and realize that they are NOT unbeatable, it may propel them back to where they expected to be in the finals. If not then......
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Hey, relax Domer. Obviously you haven't dealt with IG/GD much. He's scum. So keep your dick holster shut.
Hey, relax Domer. Obviously you haven't dealt with IG/GD much. He's scum. So keep your dick holster shut.
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As I mentioned in another post I was unable to attend the game Friday night as I was in ER with my mother. From what I have read tuf Borland was amazing and
hF struggled in the passing game.
hF struggled in the passing game.
That's interesting. All that puts the loss squarely on the coach. We are dealing with high school kids and, having raised 2 myself, they are capable of about anything. One day you believe you are going to be crowned champions of the world, and the next you are lower than whale poop. I hope those kids can shake it off. I think they are good for 2 weeks at least, then they may have to face those newly established doubts again.
That's interesting. All that puts the loss squarely on the coach. We are dealing with high school kids and, having raised 2 myself, they are capable of about anything. One day you believe you are going to be crowned champions of the world, and the next you are lower than whale poop. I hope those kids can shake it off. I think they are good for 2 weeks at least, then they may have to face those newly established doubts again.
I put blame on the coaches but I also clearly said the "biggest issue in my mind is that our players felt the game was over before it started". I think the kids were on cruise control and BB punched them in the mouth. Poor/lack there of adjustments by coaches and kids believing they were supposed to win just because......does not make a good combination.
No predictions but I do sincerely believe they refocus and come back a better team!!
I put blame on the coaches but I also clearly said the "biggest issue in my mind is that our players felt the game was over before it started". I think the kids were on cruise control and BB punched them in the mouth. Poor/lack there of adjustments by coaches and kids believing they were supposed to win just because......does not make a good combination.
No predictions but I do sincerely believe they refocus and come back a better team!!
Bobby Maszak is, without a question in my mind, Domer. I'm at a loss to understand some of the posts he's made, including referring to a "dick holster" (perhaps mine?).
Maszak- If this is directed at me, I have no idea what you mean by saying, "keep your dick holster shut." You are certainly correct: Domer is scum. You apparently are reminded of this every time you look in the mirror.
Capn:
From some of the things I have read over the past two years, many long time posters have said there were those in the past who were far worse than posters now. A lot, if not all, of those past posters were removed from the site. Sometimes the past isn't as rosy as we would like to believe it was.
Holsters hold guns. Dick holsters hold dicks. I refer to your mouth as a dick holster. I'll let you figure out the rest. I hope you can.
dad...you realize GD actually brought Naz and Bronco together...it's not coincidence...and "bullies" on a high school football board? I feel like you've been watching too much 60 minutes.