Georgia St QB out for season due to COVID-19 induced myocarditis

ricko6543211

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He caught the virus at home, and then Georgia State's testing protocols found the myocarditis. Props to Georgia State athletic department and their protocols.
Yeah I don't get the initial poster's reaction - it seems like the testing and heart scan protocols worked exactly as they are intended. The EKG identified and prevented someone who could potentially be at risk from playing football. So now he doesn't put himself in potential danger. Kid seems happy with how it played out and is excited to watch his teammates play, then return to the field next year. This is a good thing...
 

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I lived in Elder my freshman year, and across the hall was a baseball player--a catcher.

In the spring, he learned from his NU physical that he had one kidney. Career over. So he had spent much of his athletic life playing without this knowledge. He gets to NU, and the medical protocols found an unacceptable level of risk.

This situation seems little different.
 

willycat

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Yeah I don't get the initial poster's reaction - it seems like the testing and heart scan protocols worked exactly as they are intended. The EKG identified and prevented someone who could potentially be at risk from playing football. So now he doesn't put himself in potential danger. Kid seems happy with how it played out and is excited to watch his teammates play, then return to the field next year. This is a good thing...
All true but yet there are no tests being administered to high school football players in Ohio.
 

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I lived in Elder my freshman year, and across the hall was a baseball player--a catcher.

In the spring, he learned from his NU physical that he had one kidney. Career over. So he had spent much of his athletic life playing without this knowledge. He gets to NU, and the medical protocols found an unacceptable level of risk.

This situation seems little different.
Very fortunate to catch these previously undetected conditions that pose a high risk. Jeremy Larkin comes to mind, too.
 

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Somewhat reminiscent of NU basketball recruit Nick Knapp who was ruled medically ineligible to play at NU due to a heart issue. Even though NU honored his scholarship, Knapp sued the University.

Knapp v. Northwestern
 

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Hungry Jack

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Very fortunate to catch these previously undetected conditions that pose a high risk. Jeremy Larkin comes to mind, too.
Yeah. Larkin had a stinger that didn't go away, and the cervical x-ray showed the stenosis. Pretty easy to see on an MRI, but the symptoms gave it away. I have stenosis in a my lumbar spine, and it frankly sounds worse that it really is (just had a round of injections to relieve inflammation that was pressing on the nerve and causing cramping and numbness in my lower leg). But you sure as heck should not play football with cervical stenosis.
 

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Medical conditions are found every year that cause people to stop playing.
 

willycat

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Who was talking about HS football in Ohio.....? I have no opinion on that.
I was stating a fact that the father of a Big Ten player, who happened to also be a H.S. coach made the following statement. He was asked if all H.S. players in Ohio would be tested for the virus and he answered no. Football is football whether it's H.S. or college. It's a dangerous game and the virus only makes it more so. The Big Ten did the right thing but sure sounds like Ohio high schools have it wrong.
 

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Yeah I don't get the initial poster's reaction - it seems like the testing and heart scan protocols worked exactly as they are intended. The EKG identified and prevented someone who could potentially be at risk from playing football. So now he doesn't put himself in potential danger. Kid seems happy with how it played out and is excited to watch his teammates play, then return to the field next year. This is a good thing...

It's great that it was caught.... but how often do they test for this? If he got COVID and came down with this condition in October, would it have been caught?

Do they test for myocarditis for every player that gets COVID before they return to workouts/practice?
 

ricko6543211

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It's great that it was caught.... but how often do they test for this? If he got COVID and came down with this condition in October, would it have been caught?

Do they test for myocarditis for every player that gets COVID before they return to workouts/practice?
Yeah, that's the point. They need to under the protocols laid out. Everyone gets an EKG before the season and if they have tested positive then need a clean EKG before they can resume playing. From what I understand, I'm not an expert here and haven't exactly read each conference's policies, but that's my understanding.
 

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Everything is fine. Nothing to see here. Play on!
Still begs the question..... if they weren’t playing would they be safer? Willing to bet with only 5 they didn’t get it from football. Had they been out on there own, they would’ve never known they had it. Possibly infecting countless people? But now they will be monitored, cared for, quarantined until 2 negative tests. Checked for heart conditions, etc..... it’s like saying DONT go to the Hospital because you may catch it? But just my opinion.....obviously some disagree
 

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Still begs the question..... if they weren’t playing would they be safer? Willing to bet with only 5 they didn’t get it from football. Had they been out on there own, they would’ve never known they had it. Possibly infecting countless people? But now they will be monitored, cared for, quarantined until 2 negative tests. Checked for heart conditions, etc..... it’s like saying DONT go to the Hospital because you may catch it? But just my opinion.....obviously some disagree

I’ll take “completely missing the point” for $400 please, Alex.
 

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It's great that it was caught.... but how often do they test for this? If he got COVID and came down with this condition in October, would it have been caught?

Do they test for myocarditis for every player that gets COVID before they return to workouts/practice?
Somewhat related , wonder how that parent protest at the Big Ten offices went? Very little coverage in the Chicago papers and looked like a few dozen attended from just 4 schools, Illinois included. They supposedly knew that the offices were closed and the Commissioner was at his apartment. Guess it was just so they could get there pictures taken, since they didn't accomplish anything else.
 

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Somewhat related , wonder how that parent protest at the Big Ten offices went? Very little coverage in the Chicago papers and looked like a few dozen attended from just 4 schools, Illinois included. They supposedly knew that the offices were closed and the Commissioner was at his apartment. Guess it was just so they could get there pictures taken, since they didn't accomplish anything else.
Protest? Lol. Warren botched this to kingdom come even if it is ultimately proven to be the right decision. Football and other sports aren’t the super spreader events on campus. It’s frat parties and Other social gatherings. Stop blaming the parents for wanting answers from a commissioner that shut down a league and let his own son play. He is getting heat and rightfully so and the Presidents are hiding and letting Warren be the fall guy. Yet the Presidents gleefully let students return to campus even if they sit in their dorm room for remote learning. Cluster!
 

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Protest? Lol. Warren botched this to kingdom come even if it is ultimately proven to be the right decision. Football and other sports aren’t the super spreader events on campus. It’s frat parties and Other social gatherings. Stop blaming the parents for wanting answers from a commissioner that shut down a league and let his own son play. He is getting heat and rightfully so and the Presidents are hiding and letting Warren be the fall guy. Yet the Presidents gleefully let students return to campus even if they sit in their dorm room for remote learning. Cluster!
Glad to see that you somewhat agree that Warren made the right decision. To bad these parents don't see it that way.
 

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This is such terrific news; first Feeney, now Colasurdo. Both back practicing. Reports were that Colasurdo’s career was over. Wow!!

 
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Yeah. Larkin had a stinger that didn't go away, and the cervical x-ray showed the stenosis. Pretty easy to see on an MRI, but the symptoms gave it away. I have stenosis in a my lumbar spine, and it frankly sounds worse that it really is (just had a round of injections to relieve inflammation that was pressing on the nerve and causing cramping and numbness in my lower leg). But you sure as heck should not play football with cervical stenosis.
Hungry: OT did any of your doctors suggest the MILD procedure? Ask them about it (Minimally Invasive Lumbar decompression)
 

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This is such terrific news; first Feeney, now Colasurdo. Both back practicing. Reports were that Colasurdo’s career was over. Wow!!



“Let’s run the kids out there so I can watch on TV even if we don’t yet comprehend the risks to the players because I really REALLY would like to watch college football!”
 

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Paraphrasing doesn't belong in quotes. Have you yet located a single college football player in any division who has contracted COVID and later been diagnosed with myocarditis? Just wondering.

Have you yet decided to stop moving the goal posts?

Daniels, the director of sports cardiology at Ohio State, had also been busy, working to publish a three-month study whose preliminary findings were presented to Pac-12 and Big Ten leaders before they shut down football earlier this month. Daniels said that cardiac M.R.I.s, an expensive and sparingly used tool, revealed an alarmingly high rate of myocarditis — heart inflammation that can lead to cardiac arrest with exertion — among college athletes who had recovered from the coronavirus.

The survey found myocarditis in close to 15 percent of athletes who had the virus, almost all of whom experienced mild or no symptoms, Daniels added, perhaps shedding more light on the uncertainties about the short- and long-term effects the virus may have on athletes.

But as Daniels’s survey awaits the rigors of peer review, it has received scant attention, in part because Ohio State has refused to make public any testing data about its athletes — who make up the bulk of the study — other than to announce last month that it had shut down workouts because of positive virus tests. Thus, Daniels said he could not disclose any more information about the data, including the number of athletes tested and those found with myocarditis, until it is published. (The school has said it is following privacy laws, but those prohibit only the disclosure of personally identifiable information.)


 

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Have you yet decided to stop moving the goal posts?

Daniels, the director of sports cardiology at Ohio State, had also been busy, working to publish a three-month study whose preliminary findings were presented to Pac-12 and Big Ten leaders before they shut down football earlier this month. Daniels said that cardiac M.R.I.s, an expensive and sparingly used tool, revealed an alarmingly high rate of myocarditis — heart inflammation that can lead to cardiac arrest with exertion — among college athletes who had recovered from the coronavirus.

The survey found myocarditis in close to 15 percent of athletes who had the virus, almost all of whom experienced mild or no symptoms, Daniels added, perhaps shedding more light on the uncertainties about the short- and long-term effects the virus may have on athletes.

But as Daniels’s survey awaits the rigors of peer review, it has received scant attention, in part because Ohio State has refused to make public any testing data about its athletes — who make up the bulk of the study — other than to announce last month that it had shut down workouts because of positive virus tests. Thus, Daniels said he could not disclose any more information about the data, including the number of athletes tested and those found with myocarditis, until it is published. (The school has said it is following privacy laws, but those prohibit only the disclosure of personally identifiable information.)


Not moving the goalposts. Simply asking for the same info I've asked for from the beginning - the names of college football players who were positive for COVID who subsequently developed mycarditis as a result. So, it's not me who is moving the goalposts. The first 2 you and vllox dug up turned out to be false alarms. In the meantime, enjoy the college football this weekend! Go Blue Devils!
 

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Not moving the goalposts. Simply asking for the same info I've asked for from the beginning - the names of college football players who were positive for COVID who subsequently developed mycarditis as a result. So, it's not me who is moving the goalposts. The first 2 you and vllox dug up turned out to be false alarms. In the meantime, enjoy the college football this weekend! Go Blue Devils!

Why do you believe that we will learn the confidential medical condition of individual players?