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Bigkyfan10 said:
And even with Oweh there is about a 5% chance that UK has a top 15 offense according to KenPom by the end of March Madness. Pope would have to completely change the offense from shooting a lot of threes to shooting just some threes.
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Then obviously you have already found 15 teams that will be better offensively. Who are they?
 
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When fully healthy:
-25/15 splits in backcourt
-22/18 splits in frontcourt

Lowe/JJ
Aberdeen/Chandler
Oweh/Williams
Dioubate/Jellavic
Quaintance/Garrison

Moreno, Perry, Noah playing sparingly
 
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PG: Lowe (25), Johnson (10), Perry (5)

SG: Aberdeen (23) Chandler (12), Johnson (5)

SF: Oweh (24), Williams (10), Noah (6)

PF: Dioubate (20), Quaintance (16), Jelavic (4)

C: Garrison (22), Quaintance (6) Jelavic (6), Moreno (6)
 
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bucsrule8872 said:
I think Moreno is going to get some run early in the season as they bring Quaintance along slowly after his surgery.

With Garrison and Moreno, the staff can afford to let Quaintance get 100% back and not have to rush it.

They can slowly work JQ into the mix with two other big bodies to throw out there. Plus Jelavic can play some at the 5 as well, if push comes to shove.

And it gives Moreno some experience as a Freshman, which will help when he becomes a full time rotation player as a Sophomore.
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Can’t expect anyone to be back a second year. Every season is a one year lease. He could potentially come back. But I wouldn’t expect it
 
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bucsrule8872 said:
My main rotation projections at the moment (with estimated mpg):

G Lowe(25)/Johnson(15)
G Aberdeen(25)/Chandler(15)
G Oweh(27)/Williams(13)
F Dioubate(22)/Jelavic(14)/Garrison(4)
F Quaintance(22)/Garrison(18)

Oweh- 27
Lowe- 25
Aberdeen- 24
Garrison- 22
Dioubate- 22
Quaintance- 22
Chandler- 15
Johnson- 15
Jelavic- 14
Williams- 13

This is obviously with Quaintance 100% healthy.

Backcourt is locked, as long as Oweh comes back. Lowe, Aberdeen, and Oweh start together with Johnson, Chandler, and Williams off the bench.

I am back and forth on who starts at the 4 and 5. Could be a big lineup (BG/JQ), could be a defensive lineup (MD/JQ), or could be a veteran lineup (MD/BG). Two of those three will start at the 4 and 5, and all three will get starter minutes (20+ mpg).
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Your roster projections are must-see tv. Many thanks.
 
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PG Lowe
SG Aberdeen
SF Oweh
PF Diabaute
C Quaintance

Reserves in order of first off bench generally:
Garrison
Johnson
Williams
Jelavich
Chandler
Noah
Perry
Moreno
 
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bucsrule8872

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jedwar said:
I may be wrong, I usually am, but I think folks will be suprised at how not ready Moreno is for college basketball. Especially the SEC.
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This is why it was important to get BG back and bring in JQ. Hopefully by January JQ will be healthy and a major contributor. Moreno is going to help us in the OOC and as a Sophomore, but he is not likely to ready for prime time SEC post play as a Freshman. The SEC is a grown man’s league, especially down low.
 
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I gave my projected lineups but this is the lineup I really HOPE to see:

pg - J. Lowe (22)
sg - C. Chandler (20)
sf - O. Oweh (24)
pf - B. Garrison (22)
c - J. Quaintance (22)
6th - D. Aberdeen (20)
7th - J. Johnson (18)
8th - K. Williams (18)
9th - M. Dioubate (18)
10th - A. Jelavic (16)
Reserve - M. Moreno
Reserve - T. Noah
Reserve - T. Perry
 
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ImTheVillageIdiot said:
I gave my projected lineups but this is the lineup I really HOPE to see:

pg - J. Lowe (22)
sg - C. Chandler (20)
sf - O. Oweh (24)
pf - B. Garrison (22)
c - J. Quaintance (22)
6th - D. Aberdeen (20)
7th - J. Johnson (18)
8th - K. Williams (18)
9th - M. Dioubate (18)
10th - A. Jelavic (16)
Reserve - M. Moreno
Reserve - T. Noah
Reserve - T. Perry
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I could see that. Do you think Pope will be able to recruit High School players going forward or will he just dip into the portal?
 
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Dontworryboutit23 said:
Lowe, aberdeen, oweh, diobate, garrisson are the starters
- Jasper is the sixth man
- Williams and Chandler play 10-20 min per game
- JQ and and jelavic play good mins as well, but eventually JQ overtakes BG as starter
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Wanna bet a Rupp Rafters $20 that JQ is ready by the first exhibition game? I’ll give you 3/1 odds too!😂
 
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ImTheVillageIdiot said:
I just don’t see Oweh becoming a guaranteed first round pick so I have him coming back unless something majorly changes.
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Why does this continue to get talked about? Guaranteed FIRST round...he's not even mentioned as a SECOND rounder. It just absolutely baffles me this still gets talked about. He ranks 80ish on almost every single draft board. He ranks 20ish amongst shooting guards. There are 60 picks. He's not getting drafted. He's not staying in the draft. He'll be lucky to get drafted in 2026.
 
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Eagles_Ball said:
Why does this continue to get talked about? Guaranteed FIRST round...he's not even mentioned as a SECOND rounder. It just absolutely baffles me this still gets talked about. He ranks 80ish on almost every single draft board. He ranks 20ish amongst shooting guards. There are 60 picks. He's not getting drafted. He's not staying in the draft. He'll be lucky to get drafted in 2026.
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I agree. He has a major uphill battle given his deficiencies. I think some fans think if a player is good in college that means they are getting drafted. It’s just a lot more complex than that.
 
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TFCats11 said:
Wanna bet a Rupp Rafters $20 that JQ is ready by the first exhibition game? I’ll give you 3/1 odds too!😂
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ImTheVillageIdiot said:
I agree. He has a major uphill battle given his deficiencies. I think some fans think if a player is good in college that means they are getting drafted. It’s just a lot more complex than that.
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For sure. Plus, it'd be an amazingly bad business decision for him not to return as well. Maybe it's post-Cal PTSD, but guys like this never really left early under Cal either. I mean, unless he goes straight to Turkey or somewhere, UK is the only place he can play next year. I guess he could play in the G for $50K.
 
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Eagles_Ball said:
For sure. Plus, it'd be an amazingly bad business decision for him not to return as well. Maybe it's post-Cal PTSD, but guys like this never really left early under Cal either. I mean, unless he goes straight to Turkey or somewhere, UK is the only place he can play next year. I guess he could play in the G for $50K.
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If he wants to be an NBA player, he needs to add some playmaking skills and become an elite defender. I would add that he needs to fix the shot but that would be a challenge
 
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UK90

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JPFisher said:
Found a really nice graphic on the roster and its versatility.
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That’s a nice visual demonstration of our versatility. We have lots of guys capable of playing at multiple spots.

I believe Moreno is the only true “just one position” player on this roster.
 
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bucsrule8872 said:
Williams is a tough one to predict.

His stats look really goood and he is actually ranked higher by 247 and On3 than Aberdeen and 247 actually has him above Dioubate as well.

But he played lesser competition than those other guys we brought in, so it’s hard to judge.

I see him getting around 15 minutes a game next season. On par with Chandler, Johnson, and Jelavic.

I only see our top six (Oweh, Aberdeen, Garrison, Lowe, Dioubate, and Quaintance- once healthy) getting 20+ minutes. Those other four are fighting for double digit minutes. They are all talented guys, but inexperienced at the college level.
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Williams will get minutes because of his height and ability to shoot the 3. There are going to be some games we need him to use as a mismatch. Chandler in in the same territory. They will both get 15-20 min a game. Chandler imo could push for the starting spot. Right now i think it’s JJs. Aberdeen is the 6th man because he is coming in primarily to play pg. I feel like he and Lowe will split minutes evenly. And it’s impossible for there never to be injuries or guys rested to prevent injury. It’s hard to predict a lineup because it could be different every game the way pope coaches. Cal, tubby they were so narrow minded to rarely change up starters. I know we had injuries but pope is always looking for an edge, he’s never satisfied.
 
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Wildcats1st said:
Williams will get minutes because of his height and ability to shoot the 3. There are going to be some games we need him to use as a mismatch. Chandler in in the same territory. They will both get 15-20 min a game. Chandler imo could push for the starting spot. Right now i think it’s JJs. Aberdeen is the 6th man because he is coming in primarily to play pg. I feel like he and Lowe will split minutes evenly. And it’s impossible for there never to be injuries or guys rested to prevent injury. It’s hard to predict a lineup because it could be different every game the way pope coaches. Cal, tubby they were so narrow minded to rarely change up starters. I know we had injuries but pope is always looking for an edge, he’s never satisfied.
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Coaches aren’t being narrow minded when they don’t frequently change the starters, though. That plays into minutes continuity, which is an important factor. If we had been healthy last year, I bet we would have had the same starting lineup all year.
 
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Digger-Cat said:
I think Lowe is a 1 position guy too.
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Lowe probably will only play the 1 next season …because that’s the only place we’ll need him with this roster construction.

But it’s not because his game limits him to the one. He’s easily capable of playing the 2 if that’s where he were needed.
 
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ImTheVillageIdiot said:
Coaches aren’t being narrow minded when they don’t frequently change the starters, though. That plays into minutes continuity, which is an important factor. If we had been healthy last year, I bet we would have had the same starting lineup all year.
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It’s a fixed mindset vs playing the matchups. Continuity comes on creating a dynamic team that can adjust to any situation. There are guys who always start like an Oweh or a Lowe but changing up the 2g based on matchup or the 4 based on matchup is no problem. I’m not going to get into the combinations and reasons but it’s important in cbb to start well not who starts. With this team and that graphic for instance showing the overlap at each spot we can go power with tough defense or we can light it up and run. With this depth and the relative closeness in talent well it’s all about the matchups presented by the opponent
 
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Wildcats1st said:
It’s a fixed mindset vs playing the matchups. Continuity comes on creating a dynamic team that can adjust to any situation. There are guys who always start like an Oweh or a Lowe but changing up the 2g based on matchup or the 4 based on matchup is no problem. I’m not going to get into the combinations and reasons but it’s important in cbb to start well not who starts. With this team and that graphic for instance showing the overlap at each spot we can go power with tough defense or we can light it up and run. With this depth and the relative closeness in talent well it’s all about the matchups presented by the opponent
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I agree it’s good to have a dynamic roster, but that’s not the same as continuity. The continuity is from playing your players together enough to build increased chemistry and cohesion. Even with a dynamic roster, the best coaches aren’t going to keep shuffling their starting lineups. That’s all I’m saying.

I do love we have a roster than can play multiple styles and be up for any challenge.
 
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ImTheVillageIdiot said:
How do you think it shakes out, assuming the roster is done?
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Pre JQ

PG - Lowe
SG - Oweh
SF - Williams
PF - Diaboute
C - Garrison

Post JQ

PG - Lowe
SG - Johnson
SF - Oweh
PF - Garrison
C - JQ

I noted that by the time JQ is back to full health, I believe JJ will be ready for a starting position. I also stated that I believe Williams will be very hard for Pope to not have on the floor. I think the kid could be very special. I believe Oweh obviously leads the team in minutes with around 30-32 a game. Lowe/Aberdeen/Johnson/Oweh/Williams will get most minutes at the 1-3 spots, as all can be interchangeable. When JQ is back, he will likely command 28-30 minutes, and Garrison with about 26-28 minutes post JQ. Pre JQ I think Garrison gets a bump in minutes with around 30 a game.
 
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W1LDCAT22 said:
Pre JQ

PG - Lowe
SG - Oweh
SF - Williams
PF - Diaboute
C - Garrison

Post JQ

PG - Lowe
SG - Johnson
SF - Oweh
PF - Garrison
C - JQ

I noted that by the time JQ is back to full health, I believe JJ will be ready for a starting position. I also stated that I believe Williams will be very hard for Pope to not have on the floor. I think the kid could be very special. I believe Oweh obviously leads the team in minutes with around 30-32 a game. Lowe/Aberdeen/Johnson/Oweh/Williams will get most minutes at the 1-3 spots, as all can be interchangeable. When JQ is back, he will likely command 28-30 minutes, and Garrison with about 26-28 minutes post JQ. Pre JQ I think Garrison gets a bump in minutes with around 30 a game.
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Williams, chandler, Johnson gonna be interesting to see
 
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Bigkyfan10 said:
This is with Oweh not returning correct since he technically is still in the draft?
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you’re so concerned with shooting that you say we could miss the tournament, and now you’re hesitant if oweh returns with his 35% three point shooting? you’re running from your own narrative. take the bet.
 
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