Gina Carano - cancelled
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Not sure working with the Daily Wire equates exactly to working with Disney/LucasFilms but whatever. I'm gonna hazard a guess that her career path took a pretty big dip without the Disney/LucasFilms bank account/marketing machine behind her. In this instance, perhaps she wasn't completely cancelled but took a HUGE pay cut as a result of the PC police. Sort of like - you can't play in the NBA but the league in Turkey has room for you so you can't say you've been cancelled.
Being cancelled is not clearly defined. Many people chose to no longer support the Dixie Chicks, but they were still supported by their label and allowed to continue releasing music through an elevated platform.
If we could no longer consume their product through the mainstream or no record label wanted to sign them out of fear of backlash, then that would fall within my view of "being cancelled". But they are still around and performing at big events like the DNC in 2020.
They weren't cancelled; they just lost support from the height of their popularity because they chose to wade into a divisive topic like politics.
Kaepernick wasn't cancelled either. He still has significant endorsement deals despite not being an active player. Nobody wants to sign him because his talent does not outweigh the attention. Michael Sam had the same problem. Most people didn't care that he was gay, but the media circus and distractions around his gayness outweighed his value as a football player.
Dixie Chicks definitely got cancelled by the right wingers - no doubt. I thought that was stupid, also. I actually like some of their songs and don't really care what they think/thought about Bush.
I do think Kap is a slightly different animal, though. His outspoken views certainly prevented him from getting another QB job quickly (which I think is a little surprising because at least some of the NFL owners are left-leaning and shouldn't be offended by his remarks). He had, though, already lost his starting job before he became so outspoken. Living here in Denver they've talked about him a lot over the years because they offered him over $1 million/yr several years ago as a backup and he turned them down. With the generally woeful QB play in Denver since Manning retired, one would have thought he would jump at the chance to get a contract and parlay good QB play into a much bigger payday. Nope. He was also contacted about playing in the revived USFL (since defunct, again) and said only if they paid him $20 million/yr which was completely a non-starter. So, yes, he was cancelled initially by the NFL (which I disagree with) but he has turned down at least two opportunities to play professional ball (and I would guess he's had feelers from other teams throughout this time period) and hasn't shown much/any inclination to play unless he's going to be paid as a starter. And, after how many years out of football, would any team sign him and expect him to start right away? In essence, he's blackballed himself with his stubbornness as to his value to a team. My feeling is he really doesn't want to play football anymore and has found he can make a lot of money being a martyr rather than being a mediocre backup QB. And, if you look at his NFL performance, that's really all he was except for one season - mediocre. And the NFL is not about to spend $20 million on a backup QB. If an NFL team really thought he was all that, he'd already be playing.
Again, I believe Disney can employ anyone they choose. I believe in Free Market capitalism. But, did they fire her because her work was subpar or did they fire her because they didn't like what she thinks/says? They were planning on spinning her character off into its own series so I seriously doubt they were displeased with her work. So, what was it? Would they fire another actor if they actively supported BLM, China, late term abortion, Green New Deal, defund the police, etc. on Twitter or would they look the other way? I think we all know the answer. While it's their right to do so, they cancelled her for her political beliefs which I disagree with regardless of which side it occurs on (as my post re: Dixie Chicks above states).
Difference with Colin Kaepernick is he also sucked. If he was Patrick Mahomes, Tom Brady or somewhere in between, he'd still be in the league and continuing his kneeling that so many others in sports do today.
Youre correct about the Dixie Chicks, Colin Kaepernick didn’t get canceled. He was a washed up QB.
The Dixie Chicks were boycotted but their careers were not ended after making negative remarks about President Bush in 2003. Five years later they had their biggest hit ever with "Not Ready to Make Nice.". They are still around today.
Another good point about Kaepernick. He turns down offers because the moment a team signs him, then he's no longer a victim of "persecution". He can't afford to change his own narrative.
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There is no doubt he was at the tail end of his career, and if he had been a superstar, he would have been accepted
Had she compared Trump and his supporters as Nazi’s she probably would’ve been labeled a great American.
Or you know censuring or primarying every Republican congressman who didn’t get on their knees to suck off Donald Trump for the past five years.
Imagine she doesn't care at all about you or your opinion
The bottom line is that social media is a scourge, corporations need to start standing up to bullies (and stop being bullies, themselves), and our elite need to take a couple of Ls.
If you don’t think it is the same powerful group of people pushing the division and chaos in this country that is partially responsible for cancel culture, I don’t know what to tell you. Too many radical people have been given a platform, and this is the result.
Having said that, Twitter is a private company, and Disney made their decision without influence from anyone else (they were avoiding backlash). Gina Carano should get off of Twitter and become an activist if she wants to truly effect social or political change. Otherwise, people will draw the worst conclusions about her, based upon what she posts (now is not the time to post stuff like that).
There are plenty of conservatives that don’t get blackballed for stuff they say. The reason is that they don’t say stupid stuff they know is going to harm them if they post it.
If you don’t think it is the same powerful group of people pushing the division and chaos in this country that is partially responsible for cancel culture, I don’t know what to tell you. Too many radical people have been given a platform, and this is the result.
Having said that, Twitter is a private company, and Disney made their decision without influence from anyone else (they were avoiding backlash). Gina Carano should get off of Twitter and become an activist if she wants to truly effect social or political change. Otherwise, people will draw the worst conclusions about her, based upon what she posts (now is not the time to post stuff like that).
There are plenty of conservatives that don’t get blackballed for stuff they say. The reason is that they don’t say stupid stuff they know is going to harm them if they post it.
Same can be said about Obozo/Biden. The commie dems are already threatening to primary Joe Manchin and Catherine Sinema for failure to go along with the radical left wing agenda.
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no she doesn’t - she bulked up but I would pay her very well to come kick my *** at 2 am - I’d spend all day on that
Well both sides may try but may prove harder than they think. Not sure anyone's going to beat Liz Cheney in Wyoming for example, And Manchin is pretty popular in West Virginia as well I think
2 years is a long time in politics as well. Trumpism may not have quite the shelf life many of his supporters think it will
Two things can true at once. It can be perfectly within Disney's rights to fire a talent for political beliefs and within Carano's rights to go find other work in the market. It can also be true that cancel culture is absolutely real and a cancer on this society. (It can also be true that cancel culture is overhyped by the other political side, too, but welcome to life.)
I watched Run, Hide, Fight -- the first Daily Wire movie. It was a shockingly good movie and actually not political. I was skeptical going in because I figured it would just be like the schlocky Christian rock music they used to make back in the day but it was a really good, intense movie. Coincidentally, it and Mandolorian are actually my two favorite things I've watched post COVID.
It seems like a really stupid decision by Disney. She was an integral part of a show that made them a lot of money. Plus her character was a girl badass played by a legit female cage fighter. I'm sure there is more to there story but to fire her over some tweets that weren't even offensive is pretty stupid unless there are offcourt issues (which is more likely the case.)
Kind of excited to see what she does at the Daily Wire.
No coincidences. And deals like this don’t just happen spontaneously.
Both senators went on record in recent weeks saying that they will not support getting rid of the filibuster. That essentially kills part of the radical agenda to pack the Supreme Court by adding additional seats and adding D.C. and Puerto Rico as states so the dems pick up four more Senate seats.
Packing the courts is radical left? That's news to me after seeing Trump and McConnell do it for over 4 years.
Trump filled open seats which is the normal. procedure. The dems want to add 6-7 new seats to the Supreme court so the the libs have an overwhelming majority. That is completely radical. FDR tried it and got shot down. Trump got 200 something judges while Obama got over 300. The courts are not horribly tilted on way or the other.
And many of the open seats were ones that Mitch McConnell refused to even let the Senate to vote on so Trump could pack it with a bunch of guys that were deemed unqualified by the bar. And also rushed to fill another SC seat during an election year after saying four years ago an SC seat shouldn't be put up to vote during an election year. Two stolen SC seats along with dozens of stolen federal judges because one man decided he wanted it to happen that way.
Amd you've posted about it how many times in this thread? A lot of not caring by you.....ha ha ha
Wrong. It’s not suppose to support censorship, but the left always pushes it at every turn.
You don’t seem to understand the concept of court packing.