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I'll read your diatribe later, but thought you'd like to know that $15k to sign in 1969 is $100,000 today. Yeah, he was broke.

I lived in Detroit back then. He was big time in the 60's in the midwest and east. The entertainment world doesn't revolve around Oklahoma, in spite of what you think you know.
 
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22LR said:
I'll read your diatribe later, but thought you'd like to know that $15k to sign in 1969 is $100,000 today. Yeah, he was broke.

Turn the page was written because of hippies vs. rednecks in truck stops. Google is your friend. Read about it.

I lived in Detroit back then. He was big time in the 60's in the midwest and east. The entertainment world doesn't revolve around Oklahoma.
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Hey 22, when in motor city, do you remember a lot of saturation with Ted Nugent/Amboy Dukes around that time? Or did you move away before that?
 
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I'll borrow a few lines.

There are four kinds of people in this world...

Those that make things happen.
Those that watch things happen.
Those that wonder what happened.
Those that didn't know anything happened.

The bands mentioned above are make things happen kind of people.
Talent comes in many shapes and forms. Those that make things happen have a talent to get their foot in the door to compliment their talent for the reason why.
 
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Fitty... The Amboy Dukes were big. The later Amboy Dukes albums like Call of the Wild were really the start of his solo career. I saw Nugent an untold number of times when I lived there. He was packing the Pontiac Silverdome regularly. He also was a guest DJ on the free form progressive rock stations like WABX and WWWW. That was some crazy stuff. One time, he and that ***** Patty Smith almost got into a fight live on the air. Good memories.
 
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WhyNotaSooner said:
I'll borrow a few lines.

There are four kinds of people in this world...

Those that make things happen.
Those that watch things happen.
Those that wonder what happened.
Those that didn't know anything happened.

The bands mentioned above are make things happen kind of people.
Talent comes in many shapes and forms. Those that make things happen have a talent to get their foot in the door to compliment their talent for the reason why.
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Yep, most musicians like what they do so damn much they would do it for free. Apparently, some have at one time or another.

Then there's guys like me that never considered going professional for silly, petty reasons...like losing health insurance. Go figure.:eek:
 
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BTW, Metallica's cover of Turn the Page is worthy. Not an easy video to watch, but the twist stays with you.

 
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BTW, Metallica's cover of Turn the Page is worthy. Not an easy video to watch, but the twist stays with you.

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Yep, that's a classic tribal tune that has stood the test of time about life on the road.

I also like the humorous parodies like 'Rockstar' by Nickelback, or 'Life's been good', by the aforementioned Joe Walsh.
 
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I think I'll write a whiney-*** song about how hard my work is.
 
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22LR said:
I think I'll write a whiney-*** song about how hard my work is.
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Why not?
It's bound to be better than a lot of the pop tripe that the youngins are hanging on to every word of.

That's just me though.

If you like Bieber, I make no judgements...are far as you know.:eek:
 
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22LR said:
I'll read your diatribe later, but thought you'd like to know that $15k to sign in 1969 is $100,000 today. Yeah, he was broke.

I lived in Detroit back then. He was big time in the 60's in the midwest and east. The entertainment world doesn't revolve around Oklahoma, in spite of what you think you know.
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So when the Bob Seger System signed for what is today $100,000, you think Bob got all that money? He didn't pay his band or management? Okay. I suppose Capitol just gave them all the time they wanted in the studio as well... His $4000 cut from that deal might have bought the station wagon he wrote "Turn the Page" in.

The fact that he had regional success in and around Detroit earlier doesn't mean he was making big bucks. In fact, after getting canned by Capitol in 1969 after their second album bombed, he quit the music business altogether and decided to go to college, so he could make money.

Say what you will, being heard on the radio in a few towns, even having one hit nationally, means little in the music business.
 
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Here are a few more oh-woe-is-me, whiny-***, it-is-tough-to-be-a-star boo-hoo songs.

Simon and Garfunkle: Homeward Bound
Jackson Browne: The Load Out
Bad Company: Moving On (Note: I love Bad Company. One of the best bands ever.)
Nazareth: Jet Lag (Note: Nazareth is a bad *** rock band. One of my favorites).
Bon Jovi: Dead or Alive (Oh woe is me, making my millions)
Iron Maiden: Wasted Years (Sorry Frou)
Rolling Stones: Torn and Frayed
 
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"Made a mill' out the deal, and I'm still in the grind." - Fitty Cent (not sinceFitty)
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Curiously, despite his financial good fortune had to file a BK-7 recently. (chapter 7 bankruptcy for the horns lurking in)

What the hell is wrong with these people?
I just flat don't get it.;)
 
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22LR said:
Here are a few more oh-woe-is-me, whiny-***, it-is-tough-to-be-a-star boo-hoo songs.

Simon and Garfunkle: Homeward Bound
Jackson Browne: The Load Out
Bad Company: Moving On (Note: I love Bad Company. One of the best bands ever.)
Nazareth: Jet Lag (Note: Nazareth is a bad *** rock band. One of my favorites).
Bon Jovi: Dead or Alive (Oh woe is me, making my millions)
Iron Maiden: Wasted Years (Sorry Frou)
Rolling Stones: Torn and Frayed
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Everyone's gotta have something in life to ***** about. Even rock stars. It's just that the stuff they have to deal with is much, much different than 99.7% of the population. I can imagine the music industry and many aspects of being a performer can be a real pain in the ***. But then, to have those kinds of problems and that kind of money...... ;)
 
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Yep. Early to mid 90's a friend of mine traveled the country in a bus, supporting two albums on MCA, followed by two more on IRS. Between tours he'd work painting houses, apartment maintenance work, or whatever he could pick up. They opened in arenas around the US for bands like Accept, Guns and Roses, etc. They had songs on the charts from 3 of there albums, and headlined arenas in Europe and Japan, yet every member of the band had to work other jobs to make ends meet.

More recently, my friend got a gig playing rhythm guitar for the US version of Nazareth with Manny Charlton. That was in 2008 and none of the band was rolling in dough... they played "Jet Lag" every night, then loaded their gear into a van...
 
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Debating about who the best band is, is like debating what the best food is. It's different strokes for different folks. The artists mentioned above, including the Eagles, are all great, but they also have the benefit of having been given a break in the business and record contracts with good distribution.

Poor, poor Rush. They made millions bitching about recording industry commercialism, and it was commercialism that made them millions. They aren't stupid.

I listen to some great indy bands with great musicians and great song writing that you guys never heard of, and never will hear of. Not because they are lesser talented, but solely because they didn't get a foot in the door into the mainstream music industry. They are unknown except to a small number of fans, but they are off-the-charts in quality.

So when someone says that so-in-so is the greatest ever, it goes in one eye and out the other eye with me. That is a personal preference and an opinion.

One more thing. Many bands perform boo-hoo songs about how hard life is on the road. Bob Seger's "Turn the Page" is a classic example. There are dozens of those type of songs out there. I hate every one of them. Poor bastards complaining about life on the road while making millions get zero sympathy from me.
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Saw an interview with Pete Townsend a few years ago. Some will recall the Who did a Coke or Pepsi commercial in the 60s. Pete said when they first started out he was extremely frustrated because the music he liked to write wouldn't sell, but crap like the commercial was extremely popular. Said it was then he learned...he would write crap to make enough money to write the music HE liked. So we can thank a cheesey diddy for a soda commercial in the 60's for Quadrophenia, and even Tommy. Now that's a practical, and wealthy, genius.
 
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SoonerTulsan said:
Saw an interview with Pete Townsend a few years ago. Some will recall the Who did a Coke or Pepsi commercial in the 60s. Pete said when they first started out he was extremely frustrated because the music he liked to write wouldn't sell, but crap like the commercial was extremely popular. Said it was then he learned...he would write crap to make enough money to write the music HE liked. So we can thank a cheesey diddy for a soda commercial in the 60's for Quadrophenia, and even Tommy. Now that's a practical, and wealthy, genius.
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Yeah, I get that.

How you could compromise your values for a couple o million bucks?

Admittedly, I've done it for way less than that.
It was the sixties, I was confused...whatever, off me.:cool:
 
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My first concert was in '75. BTO, Thin Lizzy, and the opening act was Bob Seger and the Silver Bullet Band. Never really cared for Bob then or later. Not my style of music.
 
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Soonersincefitty said:
Yeah, I get that.

How you could compromise your values for a couple o million bucks?

Admittedly, I've done it for way less than that.
It was the sixties, I was confused...whatever, off me.:cool:
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Fortunately, common sense overruled his youthful ideals. I did that in my 30's I think. ;)
 
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This one is almost over but, they're showing an excellent docu of 'everything you could want to know about the Eagles' on Showtime.

It's called, aptly, 'The history of the Eagles'.
So, I suppose you could punch that into the DVR and it would grab it for you. I'm quite sure they will have some encores of it.
 
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Absolutely. Don Henley vs. Neil Peart. Timothy B. Schmidt vs. Geddy Lee. Joe Walsh vs. Alex Lifeson.

Henley is a decent drummer
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I loved the Eagles. RIP Glen, but rock the hell on...don't let the man (or his image) keep you from it.
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Tangent alert...every now and then a groovy rock song comes along that grabs me by the nut sack. (I'm easy on the music)

Lately, that song has been 'The Light', by Disturbed.

A heavily pierced, tattooed bunch out of Chicago.

They pretty good. Technically proficient.
The guitar guys do some incredible fills on the tune there, 'The light'.

Check them out, they're worthy of your critique. :rolleyes:
 
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Tangent alert...every now and then a groovy rock song comes along that grabs me by the nut sack. (I'm easy on the music)

Lately, that song has been 'The Light', by Disturbed.

A heavily pierced, tattooed bunch out of Chicago.

They pretty good. Technically proficient.
The guitar guys do some incredible fills on the tune there, 'The light'.

Check them out, they're worthy of your critique. :rolleyes:
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Damn hippies..............Give me some Haggard...;)
 
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You know...ever since I was deployed in 1990-93...I find **** that I love and never heard of. One of those is Rob Zombie. I literally discovered him like 5 years ago. That crap is awesome.
 
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You know...ever since I was deployed in 1990-93...I find **** that I love and never heard of. One of those is Rob Zombie. I literally discovered him like 5 years ago. That crap is awesome.
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Just FYI Abso...Rob is headlining Rocklahoma at Pryor this year on Memorial weekend.

Must see if you can make it.
That song of his, More Human than Human...sickly good tune.:D
 
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Soonersincefitty said:
I've got stuff that will keep me from being a burden on anyone.

Really, if you're gonna go I'd be more inclined to go myself.
Just let me know.

I'm 65...doesn't mean I'm dead...hardly.:rolleyes:
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I'm very serious about going. K2C knows how to get ahold of me (although he hasn't recently that punk ***). I have recently discovered the Rocklahoma thing as well and wow...nice! Who knew? I guess not me, the least informed Okie from that freakin area.

I don't give a **** about SxSW or ASL but I'd drag my nuts through a mile of broken glass to go to Rocklahoma.
 
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