An “unexpected” 14 degree drop in temperature between 2003 and 2018. Neptune’s 40 earth-year summer is confusing researchers. They expected a gradual increase in temperatures. Then, between 2018 and 2020, there was a raise by 20 degrees. This kind of polar warming has never been seen on Neptune until now. Neptune’s average temp is a chilly -340 degree Fahrenheit. Researchers still don’t know what is causing the temperature shifts.
Global Climate Changes
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It's gotta be the cow farts.
Neptunian cows have some pretty amazing farts.
You know why we haven't heard about climate change and Greta whatever her name is in awhile?
Because the top funder environmental messaging is currently invading Ukraine.
I'm not saying climate change isn't real but our press ignores that russian disinformation doesn't just flow in one direction.
Because the top funder environmental messaging is currently invading Ukraine.
I'm not saying climate change isn't real but our press ignores that russian disinformation doesn't just flow in one direction.
Now do Uranus.
Instead of making everyone else do the work, YOU do Uranus.
BTW, Antarctica just recorded the coldest winter on record, surpassing 2004 previous record.
Not saying that the climate isn't changing, just doubt seriously that we have enough information over a long enough period to have a clue what is causing it besides natural fluctuations.
Not saying that the climate isn't changing, just doubt seriously that we have enough information over a long enough period to have a clue what is causing it besides natural fluctuations.
There's no way we can know how much, if any, effect we have on the climate. Not a long enough sample
I can’t take anybody seriously who takes the climate change alarmism at face value.
If it’s natural we can’t stop it and if it’s man made we can’t stop it without China being on board.
In light of this, how does destroying our own economy help? It doesn’t, of course. It only empowers the authoritarian left. Which is the whole point.
Honestly, y'all, and I'm not getting into a big debate, but when world population doubles over 50 years, from 3.7 billion in 1970 to 7.8 billion in 2020, something gotta give.
She's an idiot. A child who should have been put in her place.
I don’t doubt the climate is changing and I don’t know if we are participating in it with our behavior but can assume we are for sake of my next statement. There is little to nothing government is going to do to help. The reasons are legion
Oh. Didnt you know that you can cut an old tree in half and tell from a ring what the temperature on any given day was. Also what time of day the temp was. Same from ice cores. You can tell on April 15, 1675 that the earth was 56 deg in that very spot.
Until China and India and various Central America and South America countries cripple their economies with foolish regulations then Coal remains King.
We can’t save Neptune by crippling our economy, regardless of what Asia does?
Did you know there are rings around Uranus?
I don’t have the same view as you.
I use a large mirror. Just like an astronomer.I don’t have the same view as you.
Well, I'm not sure that is true.
Man, and everything man does/builds is so miniscule conpared to the vastness of this planet that we're pretty much tiny dust particles on a grapefruit, that, if moved together, in one massive pile, would barely be visible with the naked eye.
Like I told another poster on this forum.
The United States is the least of the industrialized world's problems.
How about this: Everyone else catches up to us, with respect to emissions etc. and once they do, we can re-visit the issue. Until then, let's just put a pin in it.
Does that sound fair?
The United States is the least of the industrialized world's problems.
How about this: Everyone else catches up to us, with respect to emissions etc. and once they do, we can re-visit the issue. Until then, let's just put a pin in it.
Does that sound fair?
The notion that the US should basically gut our economy while China and India shnit in the pool without any stopping them, is just a ploy to ruin us.
Of all the anti climate change arguments being made in this thread, the one I have the hardest time getting my head around is "It will destroy our economy"
Right now, Kentucky has just announced a six billion dollar electric battery plant in Hardin County, and a two billion dollar plant in Bowling Green, I have clients who have signed leases for their land paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to build solar farms, Tesla is one of the world's most valuable companies. Not seeing a reign of destruction here.
Further, we built the railroads in the 1800s transforming this country, then built airports in the 20th century that transformed the country, then invested untold billions in building the interstates that created another incredible transformation.
But slowly and methodically phasing out fossil fuels and transitioning to renewable energy (and I would include nuclear in this equation) is going to completely destroy economic life in America? Not buying it. That is just fear mongering from the far right.
Transition can't be overnight, that is equally crazy talk from the far left extremists, fossil fuels have to be a part of the equation for the rest of my lifetime at least, maybe for another century, who knows.
Right now, Kentucky has just announced a six billion dollar electric battery plant in Hardin County, and a two billion dollar plant in Bowling Green, I have clients who have signed leases for their land paying hundreds of thousands of dollars a year to build solar farms, Tesla is one of the world's most valuable companies. Not seeing a reign of destruction here.
Further, we built the railroads in the 1800s transforming this country, then built airports in the 20th century that transformed the country, then invested untold billions in building the interstates that created another incredible transformation.
But slowly and methodically phasing out fossil fuels and transitioning to renewable energy (and I would include nuclear in this equation) is going to completely destroy economic life in America? Not buying it. That is just fear mongering from the far right.
Transition can't be overnight, that is equally crazy talk from the far left extremists, fossil fuels have to be a part of the equation for the rest of my lifetime at least, maybe for another century, who knows.
That’s the point, we are not in position to transition as rapidly as they want and it will definitely harm the economy. When have economies ever grown with expensive or unreliable energy?
do what? The democrats are trying to exacerbate renewable energy now at the expense of crippling the economy now. There is no fear mongering. Renewables are ****.
The ego of man to believe we can control the environment is somewhat comical. I think we can be stewards of what we have been given, but to believe we can control it should have been put to bed when Humanism died in the 14th century.
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Dr RB
That’s the issue. The left doesn’t want to slowly phase things out. They want to do it rapidly at the expense of the economy. They always set an unattainable goal, jump head first, hurt bystanders, & make excuses about why it didn’t work. They did the same with Race to the Top, Common Core Standards and ESSA in education.
They perfected it with the 5 year plans. It’s who they are, people. Communists.
Until nuclear power plants are on the table, I refuse to listen to any "green" energy plans. It is by far, the best way to stop burning coal. You can shove your solar and wind power generation. But, as I said, we're already so far ahead of Europe and Asia, let them catch up and then we can talk. Until then, drill baby drill.
In addition, as I also said earlier, I'm of the opinion that we're a speck of dust, relatively speaking, on this planet. I think its primarily a tool of socialistic/world government.
In addition, as I also said earlier, I'm of the opinion that we're a speck of dust, relatively speaking, on this planet. I think its primarily a tool of socialistic/world government.
Automobiles displaced horses because they solved problems that arose from horses in the modern world. EV don't solve a problem yet. It is jumping ahead in time and presuming it will fix a problem we will see in 20 years. The good news is that they are betting our entire way of life and 60% of the population of the Earth that they are right... We better hope they are right. People do realize where we get the fertilizer for our food right?
Agree with you.
CA is considering a bill to outlaw new gasoline car sales by 2035. This in a state that is already experiencing rolling brown outs. To your point, too many on the far left are wanting immediate change and that's not feasible without the current economy tanking. A smart, phased in approach is absolutely the right way.
I know they still manufacture and sell hydrogen powered autos but the 'greens' never mention them. The change to H2 cars would not entail billions of dollars to greatly increase the electric grid capacity and to string charging stations up and down the nation's highways. It also wouldn't require extensive mining operations to pull rare earth metals out of the ground. BTW, China and Russia currently own the vast majority of rare earth mining operations. Not sure I like the prospect of them holding our economy hostage while H2 is literally everywhere. Yet, you almost never hear anything about this technology. I'd like to know why.
Of course, but to many, climate change is just liberal commie BS started by the UN and Al Gore, so any steps at all to address the issue, even a smart phased in approach, are just a colossal waste of time and money. My view is that if you don't even acknowledge it as a problem, hard to have a dialogue.
My take is, there was supposedly an ice age 10,000 years ago and then the earth warmed up. What caused that? Cars-No, cattle farms-No . The earth has cooled down and warmed up probably thousands of different times and the Left destroying our economy isn’t gojng to change that cycle.