global warming is freezing my balls off

[mashburned]

Nobody gives one F about preserving earth. They just want more funds/your tax dollars to appease you crazy people who vote while they misuse funds and spew propaganda.

Keep voting guys. Do it for your children's children.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by Bill Derington:

Mime, I bet February will be a little different, dont you?

Not at all. February was warmer than January for most of the Pac coast.

 

[Bill Derington]

Ok Mime, and why was it? Was it due to the same reason the east was way below average, the jet stream, or was it climate change?

 

[Bill Derington]

Mashburned, You've lost me man, I think you're missing where I'm coming from.

 

[RacerX.ksr]

I have noticed there are a lot more articles these days hammering home the myth of man-made warming. I wonder, could that be because of the recent weather? I believe Europe as a whole was having a particularly warm time as well as our West.

I think Bill was saying there is basically a fixed amount of energy that strikes the Earth at all times. This leads to a certain amount of heat. Sometimes the heat goes where it doesn't normally go, and sometimes not. There are so many variables at play, "normal" is a very large range.

 

[Bill Derington]

That was my point ymmot, the arctic air that's gripped the east is usually in Alaska this time of year. The jet stream is out of whack, pulling warm moist air Into the west and Alaska steadily, as its brought arctic air south east.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by Bill Derington:

Ok Mime, and why was it? Was it due to the same reason the east was way below average, the jet stream, or was it climate change?

Meteorological and climate scientists believe climate change is causing greater jet stream variability.[/URL] You have to ask questions like 'why is the jet stream where it is?' and 'why is CA in the middle of a mega drought?'.

Saying it's dry today because it didn't rain gives us zero understanding of why it is, in fact, dry today.

 

[Bill Derington]

We can point and counter point all day, is what the Jet stream is doing unusual, yea, is it unheard of? no.

Weather is cyclical, sometimes dry for spells, hot, cold,wet, hurricanes its never the same. The past 2 winters KY has been colder than usual, next year it will be either colder or warmer, its not gonna be exactly on average, ever.

 

[Bill Derington]

Maybe you and they are right, but this is what it takes for the South to have a severly cold winter, and it's not the first so I imagine the jet stream had done this in the past.

 

[mashburned]

Originally posted by Bill Derington:

Mashburned, You've lost me man, I think you're missing where I'm coming from.

I think you're paranoid. I'm agreeing with you.

"There is no normal in weather,

We're alot more insignificant than some of you want to believe."[/B]

You typed that, and I wrote THE END - meaning, that's the end of the thread. It's really that simple. In a lot of ways, mother nature, humans, human nature, etc...are very, very simple concepts. Our advanced brains just like to F it up because, generally speaking, humans are ego-maniacs, and they like to take advantage of others to benefit their own agenda.

It's great comedy. Humans think they are above Mother Nature/Earth and that they can actually manipulate a better/cleaner earth....while not giving one F about polluting it (that's the other lol part of this).

Just when I think the people can't get any more gullible, something always comes along. Next week the media could report a new shocking study!!!! about how McDonald's actually has anti-aging properties and Oprah and The Hens would have McDonalds in every school in America. It's hilarious but very sad. The very funny part is often times the people who are tricked, are ones that are supposed to smart, or carry themselves like they are very smart...becuase they listen to the media.

And F the media. This is all their fault. It's f'n sickening the way they mislead their fellow humans, and take advantage of our flaws.

IM GONNA FLY MY JET FUELED AIRCRAFT ALL OVER THIS GREEN EARTH TELLING PEOPLE TO NOT DRIVE CARS!!!!!!!

/and the people go wiiiild as they flock to the voting booths/social websites to crown this great humanitarian

 

[wkycatfan_rivals376690]

I think we've been asking the wrong question all along.

The question isn't, "Is climate change real?".

The question is, "Is climate change legislation really about doing something about climate change?".

IMHO.
This post was edited on 3/3 5:02 PM by wkycatfan

 

[DUNNSTILLFREENALIVE]

We might be getting ready to see the coldest day in the month of March ever recorded in the state of Kentucky.

 

[Bill Derington]

Mashburned, That last post was perfect and completely accurate, even about me being paranoid

 

[RacerX.ksr]

Originally posted by Mime-Is-Money:


Saying it's dry today because it didn't rain gives us zero understanding of why it is, in fact, dry today.

Likewise, saying it didn't rain today because of the folly of man gives us the same zero understanding.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by wkycatfan:
I think we've asking the wrong question all along.

The question isn't, "Is climate change real?".

The question is, "Is climate change legislation really about doing something about climate change?".

IMHO.

You're right, it's also about:

- Energy independence and domestic security
- health issues
- Commodity supply and diplomatic stability
- general sustainability
- environmental stewardship by example

I know a lot of people just blurt out that this about $$$$. That isn't the case. The people are that entrenched in renewable energy and climate policy are also heavily invested in the status quo via diversification. They're going to make money hand over fist either way. They're not stupid.

Let me repeat that. Those that are pushing for legislation addressing climate change are going to be filthy rich no matter what. They are backed by big oil/gas and big solar/wind. Hell, big oil is also a major investor in renewable energy companies because they see the value and importance of diversification.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by ymmot31:
Likewise, saying it didn't rain today because of the folly of man gives us the same zero understanding.

False. That statement is made by the scientific community on the basis of decades of research, whereas the first statement is made because of ignorance in the subject.

This post was edited on 3/3 6:11 PM by Mime-Is-Money

 

[Bill Derington]

Mime, is it the first time California has been in a severe drought? Why no, will it end, yes in an unknown amount of time will there be another, yes.
To act like man is causing the weather to do what it has always done, and that is all it can possibly be is foolish.

As for people getting reach either way, yes they will. But which way will cause the average American more pain to the pocket book, and make a lot of people filthy rich. You're smart man, and I know you believe in what you post on here, do you want climate change to be wrong? Or maybe a better way is to not be mans doing.

we aren't going to control the weather, the earth is going to do whatever it's going to do, and we can't stop it.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by Bill Derington:
Mime, is it the first time California has been in a severe drought? Why no, will it end, yes in an unknown amount of time will there be another, yes.
To act like man is causing the weather to do what it has always done, and that is all it can possibly be is foolish.

I'm not acting like man is causing something new. I'm acting like the direct result of human activity can and has impacted climate patterns. That's a known fact.

Droughts are terrible and have always occurred. Having MORE of them due to increased anthropogenic forcing while supporting an increasing population relying on decreased resource supply is the issue. That can, and will happen. Geographic phenomena like desertification HAS occurred because of the increased appetite of energy consumption.

Originally posted by Bill Derington:

As for people getting reach either way, yes they will. But which way will cause the average American more pain to the pocket book, and make a lot of people filthy rich.

The increasing cost of energy due to over reliance on finite resources controlled by religious theocracies and multi-national corporate interests will cause the most pain to the Average american pocket book.

Originally posted by Bill Derington:
do you want climate change to be wrong? Or maybe a better way is to not be mans doing.

we aren't going to control the weather, the earth is going to do whatever it's going to do, and we can't stop it.

No one said anything about controlling the damn weather, that's a strawman. ONE of the many arguments for pursuing grid parity with renewable energy is to decrease the environmental impact of our energy use which HAS and WILL cause changes to both macro and micro climate patterns.

On the other extreme, a nuclear war would obviously have extreme impact on atmospheric conditions and thus "weather" yet you say man has no impact on climate.



This post was edited on 3/3 7:00 PM by Mime-Is-Money

 

[Bill Derington]

Alright mime, hope you have a good evening, swim practice calls.

 

[Bill Derington]

Alright mime, hope you have a good evening, swim practice calls.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by Bill Derington:
Mime, is it the first time California has been in a severe drought? Why no, will it end, yes in an unknown amount of time will there be another, yes.
To act like man is causing the weather to do what it has always done, and that is all it can possibly be is foolish.

I'm not acting like man is causing something new. I'm acting like the direct result of human activity can and has impacted climate patterns. That's a known fact.

Droughts are terrible and have always occurred. Having MORE droughts due to increased anthropogenic forcing with an increasing population relaying on diminishing resources is the issue. That can, and will happen. Geographic phenomena like desertification HAS occurred because of the increased appetite of energy consumption.

Originally posted by Bill Derington:

As for people getting reach either way, yes they will. But which way will cause the average American more pain to the pocket book, and make a lot of people filthy rich.

The increasing cost of energy due to over reliance on finite resources controlled by religious theocracies and multi-national corporate interests will cause the most pain to the Average american pocket book.

Originally posted by Bill Derington:
do you want climate change to be wrong? Or maybe a better way is to not be mans doing.

we aren't going to control the weather, the earth is going to do whatever it's going to do, and we can't stop it.

No one said anything about controlling the damn weather, that's a strawman. ONE of the many arguments for pursuing grid parity with renewable energy is to decrease the environmental impact of our energy use which HAS and WILL cause changes to both macro and micro climate patterns.

On the other extreme, a nuclear war would obviously have extreme impact on atmospheric conditions and thus "weather" yet you say man has no impact on climate.



This post was edited on 3/3 8:38 PM by Mime-Is-Money

 

[Bill Derington]

Nevermind Mime, it doesn't matter, we're never gonna change each other's mind, and that's ok.
This post was edited on 3/3 8:50 PM by Bill Derington

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Yup. Have a good one. Tonight should be about UKs fight.

 

[mashburned]

Originally posted by Bill Derington:
Mashburned, That last post was perfect and completely accurate, even about me being paranoid

OK, good. I thought I came off a little "nutso".

To expand on the nutso part....

...and this isn't something I subscribe to, but I am curious. I hear people who I think are more nutty than me get all bent out of shape about manipulating the weather. They say someone sprays stuff in the ozone to do something that I don't understand because 1) I'm not a weather dude and 2) I don't care enough to find the science behind this.

But I'm inclined to believe them based on my political views. I 10000% believe and subscribe to the idea that greedy humans are designing ways, and likely using them, to somehow manipulate weather and conduct experiments with huge piles of cash just so they can say HA! LOOK PEOPLE WE DID IT!!! WE CHANGED THE WORLD!!!! I just don't know what they're doing, or what in the world they even could do, but I know Humans will do something. Something to further their egos, something to waste money, something to gain attention of voters, and likely something that we don't need at all.

Anybody have real facts about weather manipulation.

 

[RacerX.ksr]

Originally posted by LordEgg:
How will taxes make climate more stable?

The taxes don't actually stabilize the climate. The taxes fund studies. Studies stabilize the climate. It's a process.

 

[Mime-Is-Money]

Originally posted by ymmot31:
The taxes don't actually stabilize the climate. The taxes fund studies. Studies stabilize the climate. It's a process.

You must be a professor of macroeconomic theory with this firm grasp of the effect when employing fiscal policy to reduce the total socio-economic cost of certain activities.

 

[TankedCat]

and that's the way it is



Cronkite on global warming

 

[wldctky_rivals70430]

and they are still wrong http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/flashback-1985-govt-scientists-predicted-nyc-would-resemble-daytona-beach/question-4734278/?link=ibaf&q=global+warming+new+york+resemble+daytona

 

[P19978]

Originally posted by ymmot31:

Originally posted by LordEgg:
How will taxes make climate more stable?

The taxes don't actually stabilize the climate. The taxes fund studies. Studies stabilize the climate. It's a process.

The word "scam" belongs in there somewhere...

 

[Kaizer Sosay]

 

[RacerX.ksr]

False. That statement is made by the scientific community on the basis of decades of research, whereas the first statement is made because of ignorance in the subject.

This post was edited on 3/3 6:11 PM by Mime-Is-Money

FALSE! There is another, more qualified scientific community that states and PROVES that your scientific community is fos.

You must be a professor of macroeconomic theory with this firm grasp of the effect when employing fiscal policy to reduce the total socio-economic cost of certain activities.

Nope. What I said was perfectly correct. It was sarcastic.

 

[trueblujr]

I'm not acting like man is causing something new. I'm acting like the direct result of human activity can and has impacted climate patterns. That's a known fact.

Is it a "Known Fact" or believed hypothesis. Big difference.

 

[Stevo1951]

I remember in the 70's all the talk was about a possible new Ice Age
Does anyone really think that 100, 500, or a 1000 years really make a flippin' bit of difference to the Earth, long term? I think we puny humans place too much importance on our position in the greater scheme of things. Not saying we shouldn't be good stewards but really? At the rate resources are being used and increasing population of the species does anyone actually believe humankind will be here in 20,000 years? I dont.

 

[Ahnan E. Muss]

[roll]at you idiots responding emotionally to posts made in 2015.

 

[P19978]

[roll]at you idiots responding emotionally to posts made in 2015.

What's funny is that its been debunked since then... and let's just say some posts haven't aged very well.

 

[Ukbrassowtipin]

Want to watch Buzzfeed journalists argue with a scientist after they get caught trying to create narrative:

 

[P19978]

Want to watch Buzzfeed journalists argue with a scientist after they get caught trying to create narrative:

The left is a joke.