No, but even dumberHere boomer try this:
Climate is what happens to the weather after humans change it
How's that?
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Mountaineer’s post gives him a hint as to the difference. If you’d like to pause the Justin Bieber video, put down the candy crush, stop with the valley girl sass for two minutes of your life, and explain it to him that’s fine.
Climate: (from AMS)
On Earth, interactions between the five parts of the climate system that produce daily weather and long-term averages of weather are called "climate". Some of the meteorological variables that are commonly measured are temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, and precipitation.
Now let's look at weather: (again from AMS)
Weather
- the state of the atmosphere at a place and time as regards heat, dryness, sunshine, wind, rain, etc.
Similar:
meteorological conditions, atmospheric conditions
OK now boomer....using your most erudite "non judgmental" extrapolations of the supplied data defining each climatological or atmospheric nomenclature, please explain to the board how "climate" is different from "weather"?
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Maybe I’m not exactly sure how much of an idiot you are - did you read what you posted?Climate: (from AMS)
On Earth, interactions between the five parts of the climate system that produce daily weather and long-term averages of weather are called "climate". Some of the meteorological variables that are commonly measured are temperature, humidity, atmospheric pressure, wind, and precipitation.
Now let's look at weather: (again from AMS)
Weather
Compare and contrast the differences separating one from another please?
- the state of the atmosphere at a place and time as regards heat, dryness, sunshine, wind, rain, etc.
Similar:
meteorological conditions, atmospheric conditions
OK now boomer....using your most erudite "non judgmental" extrapolations of the supplied data defining each climatological or atmospheric nomenclature, please explain to the board how "climate" is different from "weather"?
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Yes. I posted it!
So I'm asking YOU to explain the differences. Can you? Just answer the question please. Show us how climate and weather are not synonymous.
If you could just explain the differences please and cut out the "non judgmental" characterizations of my inquisition?
Just explain the difference between "climate" and the "weather". Make it good, we all need your expertise! [eyeroll]
Short term (short term being minutes to days) versus long term (long term being 20-30 years or something like that)
WTF is candy crush? I sometimes hear Bieber when your kids play it too loud but that is it. MWV made the same argument that the OP made.
“Over time” or something like that was used in his post. Which was the hint to Atl that it’s a long term v short term difference in definition and analysis.
There is NO WAY we can determine what climate conditions measured (as described in my link) will be in 30 years. That's patently absurd. It doesn't even come close to defining what the difference between a "climate" is vs what "weather" is.
We can't even determine what the ''climate" is going to be next season, let alone the weather! If that's your explanation/definition of the difference between the two you are not as smart about this as you claim to be and you need to stop calling others stupid by comparison.
You can't even define your own terms. Priceless!
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OK...so what is being measured? You are supposed to be explaining to me the differences between the two, not the time intervals between measurements of essentially the same data or variable conditions! Good Lord!
By your definition, one is simply a longer term analysis of the same data! I asked you how they are NOT synonymous...now you're arguing they are, simply measured over varying time references! [eyeroll]
You can't even explain it!
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Apparently, YOU don't. This explanation is as weak as any I've ever seen even from so called "stupid" climate deniers!
Guess that explains it 'ya think?
Weather is the day-to-day state of the atmosphere, and its short-term variation in minutes to weeks. People generally think of weather as the combination of temperature, humidity, precipitation, cloudiness, visibility, and wind. ... Climate is the weather of a place averaged over a period of time, often 30 years.
So even if you want to separate the two, the only difference between them is the length of time you're measuring essentially the same data! No one in their right mind would argue you are measuring two disparate separate entities one unlike the other.
Climate is weather "predicted" and weather is existing "climate" measured at any given time. They are NOT dissimilar, the only variable is in the amount of time data between both is collected & then analyzed to predict one vs the other.
How can it logically be argued to be anything other than this? Then, logically if we cannot predict or control day-to-day weather patterns, how in God's created Earth can we either control or predict what the "climate" will be like in 30 years?
Even if we could predict that, what power do we have to "change" it?
If we can predict it, why were all of these "predictions" linked below all wrong, measuring the existing data at the time? We had zero power to change any of it, and what we "predicted" using all available data never happened!
(these were ALL 100% dead WRONG)
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions
So even if you want to separate the two, the only difference between them is the length of time you're measuring essentially the same data! No one in their right mind would argue you are measuring two disparate separate entities one unlike the other.
Climate is weather "predicted" and weather is existing "climate" measured at any given time. They are NOT dissimilar, the only variable is in the amount of time data between both is collected & then analyzed to predict one vs the other.
How can it logically be argued to be anything other than this? Then, logically if we cannot predict or control day-to-day weather patterns, how in God's created Earth can we either control or predict what the "climate" will be like in 30 years?
Even if we could predict that, what power do we have to "change" it?
If we can predict it, why were all of these "predictions" linked below all wrong, measuring the existing data at the time? We had zero power to change any of it, and what we "predicted" using all available data never happened!
(these were ALL 100% dead WRONG)
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions
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So in this answer @Boomboom521 by tacit admission concedes the same data is being measured between both! Therefore logically one can assume weather and climate are in fact the same thing simply measured differently over different lengths of time.
I was called "non judgmental" names for essentially proving my point with facts and data, and leaving @Boomboom521 unable to refute my initial claim or explain what about my commentary was inaccurate or in fact "stupid"?
So my question now is who's really judgmentally stupid from this exchange?
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Skablty koppity gookThere is NO WAY we can determine what climate conditions measured (as described in my link) will be in 30 years. That's patently absurd. It doesn't even come close to defining what the difference between a "climate" is vs what "weather" is.
We can't even determine what the ''climate" is going to be next season, let alone the weather! If that's your explanation/definition of the difference between the two you are not as smart about this as you claim to be and you need to stop calling others stupid by comparison.
You can't even define your own terms. Priceless!
So then you admit they are two different things? No?Weather is the day-to-day state of the atmosphere, and its short-term variation in minutes to weeks. People generally think of weather as the combination of temperature, humidity, precipitation, cloudiness, visibility, and wind. ... Climate is the weather of a place averaged over a period of time, often 30 years.
So even if you want to separate the two, the only difference between them is the length of time you're measuring essentially the same data! No one in their right mind would argue you are measuring two disparate separate entities one unlike the other.
Climate is weather "predicted" and weather is existing "climate" measured at any given time. They are NOT dissimilar, the only variable is in the amount of time data between both is collected & then analyzed to predict one vs the other.
How can it logically be argued to be anything other than this? Then, logically if we cannot predict or control day-to-day weather patterns, how in God's created Earth can we either control or predict what the "climate" will be like in 30 years?
Even if we could predict that, what power do we have to "change" it?
If we can predict it, why were all of these "predictions" linked below all wrong, measuring the existing data at the time? We had zero power to change any of it, and what we "predicted" using all available data never happened!
(these were ALL 100% dead WRONG)
https://cei.org/blog/wrong-again-50-years-failed-eco-pocalyptic-predictions
You, very much you.So in this answer @Boomboom521 by tacit admission concedes the same data is being measured between both! Therefore logically one can assume weather and climate are in fact the same thing simply measured differently over different lengths of time.
I was called "non judgmental" names for essentially proving my point with facts and data, and leaving @Boomboom521 unable to refute my initial claim or explain what about my commentary was inaccurate or in fact "stupid"?
So my question now is who's really judgmentally stupid from this exchange?
Absolutely No!
You were asked to explain the difference in how weather and climate are dissimilar, NOT how they are merely different measurements of the same thing! That was my argument, and I asked you to refute it. Your answer confirmed my original position that they are in fact synonymous and NOT dissimilar, and when pressed to provide your evidence that my position was in error this is what you offered:
That was your response after I factually laid out the exact definitions of each, and further provided irrefutable proof that they are in fact simply different measurements of the same empirical data. YOU failed to show how they are disparate, separate, independent entities. You need to use your judgment, review the thread, and admit you once again were 100% wrong, and in fact acting severely childish calling me "stupid" when in fact my position on our dispute was 100% correct.
BTW, you exhibited the same type of "childish" impudent behavior when you could not provide a factual response after you were challenged by me the other day to reveal what were the exact violations of law cited in the Mueller report? Also when you subsequently could not explain how he was "obstructed from administering justice" during a counterespionage operation?
Once again you resorted to pedantic suppositions suggesting I was ill informed of the contents in Mr. Mueller's report, yet YOU could not accurately answer the question and I further proved he was NOT "obstructed" from any aspect of his investigation which directly contradicted your assertion that a case had been established for "obstruction of Justice".
Here again you were 100% wrong, and rather than admit it, you resorted to your typical pejorative name calling and self appointed intellectual supremacy over those challenging your incorrect assumptions.
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Atmosphere is not a state, there are 53 states(Obamas number) and none of them is named Atmosphere !Weather
boomer studying the data for an answer
- the state of the atmosphere at a place and time as regards heat, dryness, sunshine, wind, rain, etc.
Similar:
meteorological conditions, atmospheric conditions
I get your dig, but a "state" as it's referred to here is relative to position of existence as opposed to a Geographical boundary. Obama was too corrupt or ill informed to even begin to understand the difference.
Can we include you on the list of folks who do not know what they're talking about on this?
Oh - I guess a day and a year are the same thing then? Since they are measurements of the same empirical data?
My “intellectual supremacy” only exists on THIS subject over YOU.
If an hour measured against a day measured against a week measured against a month measured against a year is NOT measuring the same empirical data (elapsed time) what else are those specific intervals measuring?
You Sir are wrong, and you simply are unable to admit that or explain how weather and climate are dissimilar if they NOT the same thing measured in different intervals?
That's OK...I never admit when my Wife is correct either even when I know she is. [winking]
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I respectfully disagree. Man made climate change has neither been accurately proven nor accurately predicted. If it were so I'd admit I am wrong. However I am not as proven by the hard data which should be enough to convince you of your own error believing otherwise.
If you are correct, why have all the predictive models been wrong? If humans are capable of altering climate (ie:weather patterns) why have we not demonstrated that capability?
Can you at least explain that?
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When discussing something like heart bpm or analyzing someone’s back pain, a day and a year are very much different.
When discussing an issue like climate change, it is essential to understand the difference between weather and climate. One being a short term measurement, and one being a long term measurement. But there are more differences, such as the land mass the measurement includes. Also, trends are included in the analysis of climate, and they cannot be included in the measurement of weather (at least not on a scale that merits the label of a trend). In addition, “big picture” variables (such as solar output, ocean currents, wind patterns, etc..) are used in the analysis of climate on a level and application not congruent with weather measurements. The length of time being key to the difference.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/starts...global-warming-almost-perfectly/#7e4901e26614
From a source you should trust.
And we have demonstrated that we can alter climate - thus the hullabaloo. We are not demonstrated we can alter it in the direction that isn’t dangerous — mostly because of ignorant d-bags like you
Alright then, working off of your definition, when's the last ocean current we "altered" or even accurately "predicted"? How about the wind? Please explain human capability to either accurately predict the direction it blows or alter it once it starts? Finally on solar output? What technological capability have human beings presented that changes or ameliorates the Sun's solar heating conditions on earth?
These are your definitions of climate you presented that humans are capable of both changing or controlling.
Explain
What else is measured when measuring heart beats or back pain? On climate, if humans are capable of changing any of the components, why have the ALL of the predictive models been wrong?
You still have not answered that while trying to convince me humans are capable of adjusting "climate" aka: weather.
I'll give you a quick example. You may know we've had record high temps this summer here in Atlanta. No one predicted this heat wave, and each day it lasts we set new records for warmer than previously recorded highs.
Now let's just suppose we say we can predict with 99.9% accuracy that exactly two years from today, we will have even warmer days than what we've had here in the metro for past 6 weeks. What specifically would we do to either stop that from happening since it's been so miserable here, change it, or even more practically, why didn't we know ahead of time this was coming and order specific measures to stop it?
Can you at least explain that?
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Hey boomer I have to go into a sales meeting on the new models coming in so it may be a while before I can get back to you.
Be interested in finding out though how we can avoid another heat wave? My Gosh we're baking like Southern deep fried Turkey down here! Any advice you can pass along would be appreciated. [winking]
Hey boomer I have to go into a sales meeting on the new models coming in so it may be a while before I can get back to you.
Be interested in finding out though how we can avoid another heat wave? My Gosh we're baking like Southern deep fried Turkey down here! Any advice you can pass along would be appreciated. [winking]
The explaination exists within the differences between predicting WEATHER changes and predicting CLIMATE changes.
Sell electric cars, stop eating so much meat (esp fast food), and read some material on climate change not from a scam website.
Those were YOUR definitions. You're accusing me of insanity using YOUR definitions?
OK. I don't know if you're funny or delusional?
Maybe delusionally funny? [thumbsup]
Boomer...boomer....BOOMER!!!!!
You're grasping at straws my Man! Your answer to my example doesn't explain
- why we didn't predict the record heat?
- why we were incapable of stopping it?
- why we CANNOT adjust it?
- why we can't predict it or prevent it from happening again?