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cardfaninmemphis

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"cares to acknowledge" is probably the best way to describe it. He and others in the know might have been fully aware and chose not to air their dirty laundry.

I hope he does fix it. I am not angry at him for leaving UofL to go to Texas. I hated that he left, but I don't hate the man for doing what was best for him and his family.
 
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johnnyrockets

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Agreed. Those who don't want to acknowledge I think are the boosters and administrative people (unfortunately, they have too much influence on how long he will have there) and the lunatic fans who don't really know football. Anyone who is paying attention knows what he is taking on down there (football-wise, I mean).
 
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I've said this when Strong left UL for Texas, he'll eventually regret leaving UL and this season is showing it. At UL he didn't have boosters and fans breathing down his neck like he has/is @ Texas.
 
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CardFanBudMan

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MDCardsFan said:
I've said this when Strong left UL for Texas, he'll eventually regret leaving UL and this season is showing it. At UL he didn't have boosters and fans breathing down his neck like he has/is @ Texas.
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I believe he rode our horse as far as it would go. The timing was perfect for us and Charlie. Teddy made Charlie, not vice versa.
 
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tkdcoach

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No issue with him leaving although he did it in what was essentially a cowardly way. That happened. It's up to his players to forgive him.
 
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Coach Strong is giving Texas exactly what he gave Louisville: A football team with a stout defense and a lackluster offense. When Coach Petrino is forced to play 6, 7 or more Freshman & Redshirt Freshman, on every offensive snap, over Strong recruited Juniors and Seniors, the ineptitude of Strongs offensive recruiting is obvious.

Unfortunately for Charlie he is going to have a tough time at Texas winning games 6-3 while Baylor and TCU are scoring 63.

Charlie wanted to be somewhere that football was important. He got what he asked for. Too bad he apparently wasn't ready for it.
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IMHO Strong's biggest problem in Texas is recruiting. His most fertile recruiting ground is Florida and I don't believe the elite Florida kids want to play in the Big 12. The Texas/Oklahoma recruits knew nothing of Strong and his assistants when he moved to Austin. They had been migrating to TCU, Baylor and A&M with the weakening of the Texas program. Now that Strong is no longer seen as the "next big thing" in college coaching they are unlikely to spurn offers from TCU or Baylor to play for him. He is in a tough spot.
 
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cardfaninmemphis said:
"cares to acknowledge" is probably the best way to describe it. He and others in the know might have been fully aware and chose not to air their dirty laundry.

I hope he does fix it. I am not angry at him for leaving UofL to go to Texas. I hated that he left, but I don't hate the man for doing what was best for him and his family.
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He could have handled it better by at least saying goodbye to the players. It wasn't quite like John L., but still.....
 
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gocds

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Coaches do exactly what Charlie did every year. Doesn't make it right but it happens. I agree with CFBM about what Teddy B. did for us during Charlie's tenure. I root for Charlie but I'm glad he's in Texas plus I'm grateful for the accomplishments of our football program during his tenure. Teddy B. is an incredible football player and person and I will always root for him. I take no pleasure in seeing Charlie struggle but I believe he was "set up" by the previous staff with extremely young kids that don't get along with the leftover players. In addition to the "racist" attitudes of some of the more wealthy supporters.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
 
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Charlie really knows the defensive side of the ball game. I really doubt he knows two things about special teams or the offensive side of the ball game. He seems to usually be a good person, but he sure messed up the team in the way he took off. I wish him well but if he would ever come back here, it would have to be as a defensive co-ordinator. I do not believe he is better than most head coaches. Teddy and his awesome defense made him a name. Now the world gets to see him without Teddy for a couple of years. That is if they give him a couple of years.
 
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gocds said:
Coaches do exactly what Charlie did every year. Doesn't make it right but it happens. I agree with CFBM about what Teddy B. did for us during Charlie's tenure. I root for Charlie but I'm glad he's in Texas plus I'm grateful for the accomplishments of our football program during his tenure. Teddy B. is an incredible football player and person and I will always root for him. I take no pleasure in seeing Charlie struggle but I believe he was "set up" by the previous staff with extremely young kids that don't get along with the leftover players. In addition to the "racist" attitudes of some of the more wealthy supporters.

GO CARDS - BEAT EVERYBODY!!! God Bless America!!!
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It was his players that he recruited who were having issues with the older players. The older players were saying that the younger players needed to get in the film room and that this wasn't high school.

As for Charlie struggling, he did it to himself. All situations have similarities, but are not the same. He went in and instead of learning what the situation was, he started changing it right away and ran off his talent. He threw out the baby with the bath water as they say.

He is literally starting all over. A tough position to put yourself in a place like Texas.

He went to Texas and tried to re-create the wheel when all he needed to do is balance it.
 
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Sec221 said:
It was his players that he recruited who were having issues with the older players. The older players were saying that the younger players needed to get in the film room and that this wasn't high school.

As for Charlie struggling, he did it to himself. All situations have similarities, but are not the same. He went in and instead of learning what the situation was, he started changing it right away and ran off his talent. He threw out the baby with the bath water as they say.

He is literally starting all over. A tough position to put yourself in a place like Texas.

He went to Texas and tried to re-create the wheel when all he needed to do is balance it.
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If you read the article, it's the older guys that act entitled and don't work hard enough or play hard enough. The freshmen and sophomores are pushing them hard in practice and they don't care for it.

I'd say, unless the wheels fall off, there's no way they fire him this season after the win over OU.
 
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I have this argument with my friends all the time. Would you all take him back as a position coach or coordinator when he gets let go at Texas? I tend to say no since he turned his back on us.
 
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L1c4tillidie said:
I have this argument with my friends all the time. Would you all take him back as a position coach or coordinator when he gets let go at Texas? I tend to say no since he turned his back on us.
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Sorry but if and that's a big if Charlie is let go by Texas I doubt he will have to go back to being a D-Coordinator and absolutely would not have to go back to being a position coach.

If he gets fired at Texas there will be no shortage of FCS teams not in the Power 5 who would offer him a head coaching job after what he did here and he would probably be considered by some lesser power 5 schools.
 
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L1c4tillidie said:
Petrino left to pursue the NFL. I find that different than going to coach another NCAA team. Others may feel differently but I think they are different scenarios.
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So sign a 10 year contract, then bolt 2 days later.

Coach Schnellenberger left for OU. No vitriol towards him.
John L , left for MSU. No vitriol towards him.

Stop the presses. Strong leaves for Texas. H A T E towards him.

Look at the names, and schools for Coach Pitino's successor. Smart, Marshall, Cronin.
That would be alright, yet Strong leaving like 3 previous Cards coaches did , is horrendous.

If he didnt leave, Petrino wouldnt be here.
If Petrino hadnt been busted with that chick, would he have left Arky for here ?

The NFL has job openings every season. Petrino stays here 8 to 10 yrs, then
goes to the NFL, ok. Bolting and getting kragdud in return, was a betrayl.

Strong is gone, and some of you are still not happy.............
 
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Rollem Cards

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TX upperclassmen are upset?

THEY'RE the ones who are the reason CS is there in the first place!!! They got Mack Brown in hot water bringing about his resignation.

KR...you're wrong. Lot of people have no use for JLS. If you recall it was released during the friggin Bowl game that he was leaving.

Most people were ok with CHS leaving because UL made a pledge to FB mediocrity by joining CUSA in all sports.

Don't make CS something it isn't. He left for MONEY and FAME, and didn't even tell his "kids" goodbye. (And not leaving any OL's didn't endear him either ;) )

As far as CBP, I'd say it was about 60% for 40% against him coming back. But he's been a Boy Scout so far.
 
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KerryRhodes said:
So sign a 10 year contract, then bolt 2 days later.

Coach Schnellenberger left for OU. No vitriol towards him.
John L , left for MSU. No vitriol towards him.

Stop the presses. Strong leaves for Texas. H A T E towards him.

Look at the names, and schools for Coach Pitino's successor. Smart, Marshall, Cronin.
That would be alright, yet Strong leaving like 3 previous Cards coaches did , is horrendous.

If he didnt leave, Petrino wouldnt be here.
If Petrino hadnt been busted with that chick, would he have left Arky for here ?

The NFL has job openings every season. Petrino stays here 8 to 10 yrs, then
goes to the NFL, ok. Bolting and getting kragdud in return, was a betrayl.

Strong is gone, and some of you are still not happy.............
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Strong is John L.Smith 2.0!
 
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tkdcoach

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wilkie01 said:
Strong is John L.Smith 2.0!
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Raising my hand with vitriol towards JLS and it didn't begin with MSU it began with "your place in the pecking order." One of the most clueless remarks ever by a coach that proved he didn't "get" U of L fans or their aspirations and guess what...he was TOTALLY WRONG...because Big East because ACC. He shot himself in the foot boo hoo so guess only those millions of $$ to console himself. lol.

I never held vitriol towards CCS except that I do not admire his cowardly form of exit. He's built like that. It was pathetic but hey we got over that right quick.
 
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I'd like to wish Charlie success, but "I'm not cut like that".

So was Charlie's situation at TX so much worse that the one Harbaugh inherited at Michigan? With a year of his own recruits thrown in?

Sorry, that dog won't hunt, IMO.
 
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L1c4tillidie said:
Petrino left to pursue the NFL. I find that different than going to coach another NCAA team. Others may feel differently but I think they are different scenarios.
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Petrino twice tried to leave for an SEC team (Auburn and LSU) when he was here the first time around. The fact is both Petrino and Strong left for what each considered to be greener pastures. Both left after professing to be happy here. Both left without showing a lot of class in the method of departure. If you are going to hold that against one you have to hold it against the other.
 
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johnnyrockets said:
If you read the article, it's the older guys that act entitled and don't work hard enough or play hard enough. The freshmen and sophomores are pushing them hard in practice and they don't care for it.

I'd say, unless the wheels fall off, there's no way they fire him this season after the win over OU.
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Did not quite word that one right.:oops: Should have posted " I had read that" (probably on shaggytexas).

Either way, it's still Strong's team and his responsibility to get everyone on the same page. At 5 million a year, there is no excuse or reason for any of the bickering to have taken place to begin with, let alone spill out of the locker room.
 
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Strong's days at Texas are number. He is square peg in a round hole at Texas.
 
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L1c4tillidie said:
I have this argument with my friends all the time. Would you all take him back as a position coach or coordinator when he gets let go at Texas? I tend to say no since he turned his back on us.
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If we had an opening for a Defensive coordinator, and he was available, I'd take him in a heartbeat. He recruited well, and he would help there. And the guy can flat out coach defense. He did at South Carolina. He did at Florida. And he did here.

Petrino at HC with Strong as DC would be pretty damn good.


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