Gooooooooooo Tigers…..

[Tngamecock]

OK, I have sliced this six ways from Sunday, and the only chance we have to get in the playoffs this for Clemson to beat SMU by two touchdowns, and then SMU get taken out of the playoff mix if they look bad. If SMU wins, we have no shot.

The bottom line is, we have to hope that Clemson being the ACC champ, and us beating Clemson recently, helps our strength of schedule, and the opinion of the committee. SMU beating Clemson does not help us. So I am the biggest Clemson fan this weekend. I think I threw up in my throat.

 

[Piscis]

It isn't happening. Even if Clemson wins by 40, the committee isn't putting us in.

 

[BftCocks09]

It just is not happening. Period. Come to grips with that. You better just hope Clemson doesn't win and not have to listen to them pretending they were so good because they "made the playoff."

 

[Blues man]

IMO the committee will not allow any conference championship game to penalize any team. SMU is in the playoff, question is will they get a bye or not and that is up to them.

 

[Swifty]

The guys who interviewed the committee chair last night should have asked him what happens if UNLV and climpson win this weekend. If they aren't gonna penalized a team for losing in a conference championship game, then Bama and Miami have to be bounced down in favor of UNLV, climspon and the Big XII champ while keeping SMU and Boise St ahead of Bama/Miami.

 

[Piscis]

The guys who interviewed the committee chair last night should have asked him what happens if UNLV and climpson win this weekend. If they aren't gonna penalized a team for losing in a conference championship game, then Bama and Miami have to be bounced down in favor of UNLV, climspon and the Big XII champ while keeping SMU and Boise St ahead of Bama/Miami.

That could happen but I doubt it will. Bama and Miami are both big brands that bring lots of tv viewers. UNLV is not going to draw many viewers, neither is Boise St.. It is all about viewers.

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

Not to sound rude, but you must not have heard the puppet, uh, spokesman last night.

They can't be bothered with anything other than how big the number in the W column is, because he said that the teams that aren't playing this weekend won't move since they won't have an additional data point. Implicit in that is the fact that any SOS, wins over conference champs, etc., have any bearing on a team's ranking. So, believe him when he tells you the truth - they have what they want and they aren't going to let reality complicate their predetermined outcome.

I'll keep repeating it- this is not a system to identify the 12 best teams so they can determine the best overall on the field. This is a made-for-TV event that needs enough amibiguity baked in to allow them cover for their "decisions". They know what combination of teams will put the most eyes on the tube to generate the most ad revenue... they just come up with whatever convoluted reasoning they want to justify that predetermined goal.

 

[Rhode Island Dork]

Jason Autrey

 

[USCEE82]

Oh hell no!!!! I will never ever ever root for UPC to win in any way, shape, or form.

 

[Fried Chicken]

OK, I have sliced this six ways from Sunday, and the only chance we have to get in the playoffs this for Clemson to beat SMU by two touchdowns, and then SMU get taken out of the playoff mix if they look bad. If SMU wins, we have no shot.

The bottom line is, we have to hope that Clemson being the ACC champ, and us beating Clemson recently, helps our strength of schedule, and the opinion of the committee. SMU beating Clemson does not help us. So I am the biggest Clemson fan this weekend. I think I threw up in my throat.

The committee chair said teams not playing won’t move. We’re out. They made their point. Even if we were 1 spot out we weren’t getting in…but they made sure we got the message by putting us at 14.

 

[18IsTheMan]

The committee was crystal clear in putting as #14: South Carolina will not make the CFP.

 

[Tngamecock]

That could happen but I doubt it will. Bama and Miami are both big brands that bring lots of tv viewers. UNLV is not going to draw many viewers, neither is Boise St.. It is all about viewers.

is Miami really a big brand any longer? I mean they can’t even fill a stadium when they’re playing a ranked team. I know many of the old timers long for the days ofMichael Irvin and such, but none of today’s students or young people were even born when they were relevant.

The only shot we have is for Clemson to beat SMU, SMU to get booted, and the fact that Miami has not beaten a top 20 team, and has a crappy schedule, and the committee, knowin we beat the ACC champion, they might change their mind come Tuesday night. I truly expect those egomaniacs to try to make a splash, so they have something to talk about. It’s unlikely, but it’s possible.

 

[Tngamecock]

That could happen but I doubt it will. Bama and Miami are both big brands that bring lots of tv viewers. UNLV is not going to draw many viewers, neither is Boise St.. It is all about viewers.

Is Miami really a big brand any longer? I mean they can’t even fill a stadium when they’re playing a ranked team.

The committee chair said teams not playing won’t move. We’re out. They made their point. Even if we were 1 spot out we weren’t getting in…but they made sure we got the message by putting us at 14.

And you are probably right

 

[I4CtheFuture]

Not to sound rude, but you must not have heard the puppet, uh, spokesman last night.

They can't be bothered with anything other than how big the number in the W column is, because he said that the teams that aren't playing this weekend won't move since they won't have an additional data point. Implicit in that is the fact that any SOS, wins over conference champs, etc., have any bearing on a team's ranking. So, believe him when he tells you the truth - they have what they want and they aren't going to let reality complicate their predetermined outcome.

I'll keep repeating it- this is not a system to identify the 12 best teams so they can determine the best overall on the field. This is a made-for-TV event that needs enough amibiguity baked in to allow them cover for their "decisions". They know what combination of teams will put the most eyes on the tube to generate the most ad revenue... they just come up with whatever convoluted reasoning they want to justify that predetermined goal.

Can confirm - that is what was said. Reece Davis even asked for clarification and the fluffer guy said teams that don't play this weekend won't move.

We're out.

 

[Uscg1984]

Not to sound rude, but you must not have heard the puppet, uh, spokesman last night.

They can't be bothered with anything other than how big the number in the W column is, because he said that the teams that aren't playing this weekend won't move since they won't have an additional data point. Implicit in that is the fact that any SOS, wins over conference champs, etc., have any bearing on a team's ranking. So, believe him when he tells you the truth - they have what they want and they aren't going to let reality complicate their predetermined outcome.

I agree that was a pretty simple-minded statement for him to make - even if it more of an admission. For non simple-minded folks, the conference championship games would/should have a cascading effect (aka additional data pints) on the rest of the teams - even the ones who didn't play. If, for example, 3-loss Clemson (0-2 against the SEC) ends up being the ACC champion, that should rightfully be an indictment against the entire conference. That would be proof positive that the ACC does not deserve multiple bids.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Go Tigers AND Rebs. Would love to see chaos reign supreme with Clemson and UNLV winning their conference championship games.

 

[USCEE82]

Can confirm - that is what was said. Reece Davis even asked for clarification and the fluffer guy said teams that don't play this weekend won't move.

We're out.

He did say that, but how can that be true? Teams who lose their conference championship game should move down thereby making room for a team that didn't play to move up. Recce Davis asked him to clarify because it made no sense. If number 4 Penn State loses to Oregon, is he saying that they won't drop below number 5 Notre Dame who isn't playing?

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

I agree that was a pretty simple-minded statement for him to make - even if it more of an admission. For non simple-minded folks, the conference championship games would/should have a cascading effect (aka additional data pints) on the rest of the teams - even the ones who didn't play. If, for example, 3-loss Clemson (0-2 against the SEC) ends up being the ACC champion, that should rightfully be an indictment against the entire conference. That would be proof positive that the ACC does not deserve multiple bids.

I'm expecting SMU to officially rename it the AAC in a few days.

Then they'd be the AAC champ 2 years in a row.

How embarrassing to have a team from a G5 conf come in and go undefeated in their first year... especially after you refused to pay them for like 9 years because of what you think of them and don't want to share any of the pot. Talk about proving it's a league of midgets.

The icing on the cake would be if SMU used that leverage to insist on certain concessions or they wouldn't participate in select events.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I'm expecting SMU to officially rename it the AAC in a few days.

Then they'd be the AAC champ 2 years in a row.

How embarrassing to have a team from a G5 conf come in and go undefeated in their first year... especially after you refused to pay them for like 9 years because of what you think of them and don't want to share any of the pot. Talk about proving it's a league of midgets.

The icing on the cake would be if SMU used that leverage to insist on certain concessions or they wouldn't participate in select events.

Remember when FSU lashed out and said adding SMU would diminish the conference's strength?

 

[I4CtheFuture]

He did say that, but how can that be true? Teams who lose their conference championship game should move down thereby making room for a team that didn't play to move up. Recce Davis asked him to clarify because it made no sense. If number 4 Penn State loses to Oregon, is he saying that they won't drop below number 5 Notre Dame who isn't playing?

This is only the way I took it , but, to me it sounded like "Who's in is in..... we'll just reshuffle the order (seeding) if we need to. But teams that are out tonight (yesterday), won't move since they don't play."

Total BS.

 

[DrMickeySC]

In spite of all of that about the committee…the answer to the original post is “never”. Never pull for Clemson. Ever. And god forbid they get ANOTHER chance at the playoffs because the system stinks.

 

[FootballLVR]

I guess that puts us in fifth place in the SEC then.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

OK, I have sliced this six ways from Sunday, and the only chance we have to get in the playoffs this for Clemson to beat SMU by two touchdowns, and then SMU get taken out of the playoff mix if they look bad. If SMU wins, we have no shot.

The bottom line is, we have to hope that Clemson being the ACC champ, and us beating Clemson recently, helps our strength of schedule, and the opinion of the committee. SMU beating Clemson does not help us. So I am the biggest Clemson fan this weekend. I think I threw up in my throat.

It's over.
The CFP committee chairman stated "will not revisit seeding " for teams not playing in conference championship games.

 

[Gamecock72]

OK, I have sliced this six ways from Sunday, and the only chance we have to get in the playoffs this for Clemson to beat SMU by two touchdowns, and then SMU get taken out of the playoff mix if they look bad. If SMU wins, we have no shot.

The bottom line is, we have to hope that Clemson being the ACC champ, and us beating Clemson recently, helps our strength of schedule, and the opinion of the committee. SMU beating Clemson does not help us. So I am the biggest Clemson fan this weekend. I think I threw up in my throat.

Gamecocks have 0% chance of making it. The playoff guy said that last night on the show when he was asked about it. He point-blank said that no teams that are not playing this week would be rearranged in rankings with other teams not playing. There are two teams between the Gamecocks and playoffs with no possible way to jump them.

 

[Gamecock72]

He did say that, but how can that be true? Teams who lose their conference championship game should move down thereby making room for a team that didn't play to move up. Recce Davis asked him to clarify because it made no sense. If number 4 Penn State loses to Oregon, is he saying that they won't drop below number 5 Notre Dame who isn't playing?

What he meant was that teams not playing would not be rearranged with other teams not playing. They could move up or down a spot due to a team that played moving up or down in rankings. But at 14, it is just not possible for 3 teams playing this weekend that are ranked ahead of us to drop behind us. It is not an easy thing to explain but it should not be that hard to understand what he was getting at.

 

[Jmt1984]

OK, I have sliced this six ways from Sunday, and the only chance we have to get in the playoffs this for Clemson to beat SMU by two touchdowns, and then SMU get taken out of the playoff mix if they look bad. If SMU wins, we have no shot.

The bottom line is, we have to hope that Clemson being the ACC champ, and us beating Clemson recently, helps our strength of schedule, and the opinion of the committee. SMU beating Clemson does not help us. So I am the biggest Clemson fan this weekend. I think I threw up in my throat.

 

[Jmt1984]

Never ,Never pull for Clemson. There needs to be only 1 team from the ACC to get in. Why pull for 2 to get in ?

 

[Gradstudent]

The playoff chairman Ward guy said nothing can the help the teams below Alabama unless they win their conference championship, "no more data pts", Ward sounded like a retard in the interview to me with ESPN, and seemed to stumble over easy questions, but was clear, everybody behind Bama was out, unless they win their way in a conference championship game ie (Clemson).

 

[Beanerball]

Just repeating what most of you have said, our fate was sealed last night, no way to get around it. Go Mustangs!!!!

 

[Dabo's Weenie]

Remember when FSU lashed out and said adding SMU would diminish the conference's strength?

That aged like a glass of milk left outside in the SC summer, no?

Wonder how much they'd like to get in the SEC now? Might go 0-12... but at least they'd have more money to pay for band-aids needed from the weekly butt-kickings they'd be receiving.

 

[IPOC]

Oh hell no!!!! I will never ever ever root for UPC to win in any way, shape, or form.

You got that right!!! GO SMU WHOOP THE LIVING CRAP OUT OF THE TATERS!!! ~~~ipooponclemson~~~

 

[Uscg1984]

Until the Taliban fields a football team and plays Clemson, I will never have any mixed feelings about pulling against Clemson. Roll, SMU!

 

[Uscg1984]

It's over.
The CFP committee chairman stated "will not revisit seeding " for teams not playing in conference championship games.

While I think I know what he meant, I hope the committee does do some minor reseeding for the sake of the bracket matchups. For example, it has long been the policy for the basketball and baseball tournaments to try to avoid matchups between conference members for the first two rounds, if reasonably possible. Hopefully, we will not see two SEC teams (or two Big Ten teams, for that matter) playing each other in the first round. Likewise, I hope the final bracket does not have Georgia and Texas potentially facing each other for a 3rd time in the 2nd round.

 

[HWGcock]

Go SMU!!

 

[Vegas13]

Can confirm - that is what was said. Reece Davis even asked for clarification and the fluffer guy said teams that don't play this weekend won't move.

We're out.

I heard him say it too. It's BS. No more metrics? If Clemson wins the ACC title and we beat them, that means nothing to the committee? They are idiots.

 

[will110]

OK, I have sliced this six ways from Sunday, and the only chance we have to get in the playoffs this for Clemson to beat SMU by two touchdowns, and then SMU get taken out of the playoff mix if they look bad. If SMU wins, we have no shot.

The bottom line is, we have to hope that Clemson being the ACC champ, and us beating Clemson recently, helps our strength of schedule, and the opinion of the committee. SMU beating Clemson does not help us. So I am the biggest Clemson fan this weekend. I think I threw up in my throat.

Go Tigers AND Rebs. Would love to see chaos reign supreme with Clemson and UNLV winning their conference championship games.

Don't denigrate yourself like this. Clemson winning will not get Carolina into the playoff.

Pull against Clemson like normal.

Right now Clemson's program is in a tailspin. Their recruiting is suffering. Their fan base is questioning Dabo. The last thing we need is anything to give them momentum into 2025.