I like Kasich, and always have. He knows his **** and gets things done, but I am not sure he is blatant enough to get the needed recognition, Therefore, he should be VP on anyone's ticket. He was super in finance for the US, and has been good solid all around governor. He is more exposed to government and industry than any candidate. Plus, he is popular in Ohio and Ohio is essential to a victory.
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I think Carson loses support to Fiorina. Maybe a little of Trump's support flows to her as well. As for VP, there are so many variables. If Carly doesn't win, she would be a terrific VP pick. Rubio is a natural because of his age, charisma and his hispanic background. I think Rubio and Carly would be the two leading VP candidates at this point.
If he could only up his personality some, he'd lock up Ohio for the GOP and win the White House. Pick Rubio as your VP and have a better shot of locking up Florida as well.
Really? He busted Paul's *** right off to fire a shot over the bow to anyone who wanted to engage. That slowed the attacks on Trump and his response that would have been forthcoming. That lasted until Trapper pinpointed a direct criticism that required a response.
Who thought the night would go by without addressing Carly's looks? Women are not as critical/judgemental of physical appearance as are men. I said that remark would bite Trump in the *** more than anything he has said thus far. Would like to see what the girl's poll looks like in next results. He will take a hit on that or have clean sailing with whatever he says the rest of the season. The only thing that can save him here is those are sympathetic toward Hillary from Carly's straight talk about her.
I think Kasich's comments on the Iran deal will hurt him a great deal. The GOP base views it as an atrocious mistake and Kasich would basically live with it.
Trump is a teenager in an adult body. But he is an equal opportunity offender, behind one's back and to their face.
The transformation of Kasich from a fire-breathing Hannity regular 15 years ago to a reasonable and measured political pro is really quite astonishing. Of course, two terms as Governor of a state as politically-balanced as Ohio will tend to have that affect if you intend to get things done. But his overall maturity as a leader has really been gratifying to watch up close.
I myself have gone from a guy who'd have left my selection for Governor blank on the ballot approaching his first term to one who enthusiastic supported him in the most previous election. I had (and perhaps still have) high hopes for his candidacy if he could find a way to hang in there and build support slowly approaching the Ohio Primary in mid-March. I now worry that the financial influence-peddlers on the Red side will start running from him after last night; especially if he falls to Santorum/Graham support levels.
If he wasn't only in the first year of his 2nd term, I believe he'd be an extremely strong Cabinet appointee candidate for a Republican electee. OTOH, he should be in the VP mix in a close 2016 race where Ohio.....as is seemingly always the case in Presidential election politics......is in play.
This is your FIRST comment about numerous studies. PLEASE note there are NO quotation marks used. You later in the thread claimed you did use quote marks. In this context, you incorrectly referred to studies when NO specific studies were given. You later tried to cover you *** by claiming you were quoting Carson. You are a total fraud. But thats OK, I know plenty of insecure people who are always tooting their own horn like you do.
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We must have watched a different debate. He either backtracked on a lot of things he said on social media or outright denied every saying them ....... and he accused Obama of lacking courage.
When face to face with those that he insulted on social media, he wilted away like the scared little petulant child that he is.
Probably, I watched the GOP on CNN.
Which channel did you watch in your world that showed "backing down from those that he insulted on social media" He told Carly that she had a pretty face. He told Jeb that he would not apologize for something he did not say. Who did you see him "wilt away....."
Obama has apologized to every country instead of backing up the US. Is that the courage you allude to?
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The question about what woman to put on the $10 was dumb and the question about what your Secret Service code name should be was really, really dumb. I was hoping one of them would respond to that with basically, that's a silly question that I'm going to pass on.
It's dumb on the face of the question, but very telling in some of the answers. And yes, they do this very same thing sometimes in job interviews. Never take a question lightly.
I have no idea what this has to do with Obama. You guys can't talk about anything in your party without talking about Hilary or Obama. Just because they are bad, doesn't mean that your people aren't bad too.
First he said of Carly "who could stand to look at that face", and then he backed down from that to not talking about her looks but her persona. Then, in the debate, face to face with her, he said she had a beautiful face and was a beautiful woman.
Can't even stand up to a 110 pound woman, but he's going to stand up to ISIS and Putin and the immigrants.
Then he denied ever saying anything about Jeb's wife, and denied ever trying to get casino gambling in FL.
He's a spoiled petulant child. A wimp. No backbone. Don't go around saying **** behind people's back and then back down or deny it when confronted with it. And then has the nerve to say somebody else lacks courage. Maybe Obama doesn't, but that doesn't mean that Trump does. He keeps showing that he doesn't.
By telling Carly that she had a prety face, he was backing down from the comment he made on the campaign trail. Also, he did not deny making the comment Bush was asking to apologize for, he said there was nothing wrong with the comment.
The whole damned show and format was just a bit stupid, IMO. Several networks complained about it most of the day yesterday. Who leaked that from CNN? Perhaps they could get Candy to do another one and ask her to not get involved in the answers. Fox and CNN certainly screwed their segment up. Who is going to be the first to ask pertinent questions about something the candidates would do a President of the US. Who in hell came up with game of he said, she said gossip?
I recall him saying "I'm not going to apologize for it because I didn't say it" ... but I could be mistaken.
Jeb and Carly both had the balls to confront him, and he curled up in the fetal position and cried in the corner. Like the coward he is.
I have been saying he screwed up with Carly comment. Trump knew he said the wrong thing and made the "pretty face comment". What more do you want? And I heard him say to Bush that he never said the things accused of. Maybe I misunderstood, but what I took from it was that he would apologize to his wife if he said it. He didn't say it, therefore, no apology.
Seems that the Mod was taking a few liberties when repeating the things supposedly said. They obviously added a bit of color to the comment to get a desired response. How many times did the good Dr offer a correction to the statements he made? You obviously don't recall that, but accept what was assigned to others(Trump). The mod is becoming Candy like in the story.
How Carly got to the exchange with him over what he said about her was genius. Trump was trying to take Bush to task over his comment about Planned Parenthood, a comment that generalized PP to women's health and funding for that. Trump disregarded Bush's explanation of his comment, saying that the actual words would be the message used against him. Carly jumped in and brought up Trump's camment about her and held him to the same standard.
Trump didn't deny the comment, and I'm only sure about it because I heard it being discussed on the news this morning. Here's a link to back that up though.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/bush-demands-trump-apologize-remarks-wife-article-1.2363637
I found the quote in an article online. You are right about what he said, I was mistaken.
Trump refused. “No, I won’t do that, because I’ve said nothing wrong,” he said.
I watched the program bell to bell, and that did not happen. I would have to offer you as a liar on the subject.
Dr. Carson was not the topic. Of course I recall him correcting the moderator multiple times on comments assigned to him. I'm not defending the moderator. I'm talking about Trump and his attempts to play nice with people when they are in the room, the same people he trashes when they are not in the room.
I don't remember it that way. She was not replying to that when she "jumped in". She was actually replying to Jake Trapper offering of what Trump had said about her face earlier in the week at a Trump rally. Earlier Trump was correcting something Bush offered and Trump said he heard what Bush said. Carly then picked up on that line and said Trump heard what Bush said and that (all) women heard what Trump had said earlier about her face. Just a little different than her "jumping in to raise the issue of what Trump had said about her looks.
And then instead of acknowledging what he said before, he said she was beautiful. He's an internet tough guy, but then in the person's presence his balls shrivel up and he acts nice.
Apparently those are qualities you admire. I don't, I say he's a coward and a *****.
The topic was what was said about Mrs Bush. Trump denied saying it and therefore would not apologize. There is no question about apology to Carly. You appeared to take the alleged quote from Trump as accurate, but I proved to you that all quotes offered by mod were not accurate by using corrections required by Carson. Why take Dr's word and not Trump's?
And I say you are a liar and just a bit on the stupid side. How many times did Trump raise the point that he was a business man and got along with all people? He knew he was wrong with the comment he made about her looks. He attempted to put it behind by telling her she was beautiful. How difficult can that be? And yes, I certainly do admire a person who admits when they are wrong, as Trump did. You do not have the character to admit when you are wrong. It doesn't take a great man to admit when they are wrong, but it does take a man. You obviously have not made that transition in life.
I'm not saying anything differently that you just said ... he said one thing in private (or behind the safety and comfort of a computer) and another in person. We have different takes, I guess, on what that says about his character.
I've admitted I was wrong many many times. Several on this board, and once already in this thread.
I can't say I've seen the same from you .... hmmmmmm.
Keep calling me liar and stupid or whatever, but you can't find where I've lied about anything because I haven't. While you're on the hunt for that, I'll be sure to inform you when I give a **** what you think about me.
I find it funny how defensive you get of Trump ... makes it sooo easy to rattle your cage. LOL
I already posted a link that quotes Trump as saying that he didn't say anything wrong. Here's the pertinent text, but the link is a handful of entries above this one.
Asked if he thought that Trump went too far when he, during the summer, brought up the Mexican heritage of Bush’s wife Columba, the former Florida governor answered in the clear affirmative.
"Yes he did … subject my wife into a raucous political conversation, I hope you apologize for that," Bush said, turning to Trump on his right.
"I hear she's a lovely woman, I hear phenomenal things," Trump started off, before Bush spoke over him and again demanded he apologize.
"No I won't, because what I said wasn't wrong, but I hear she's a lovely woman," Trump insisted.
In July, Trump tweeted a comment suggesting that Bush supported comprehensive immigration reform “because of his wife.”
You have been defensive about family in the past, your own family anyway. I would think you would respect someone asking for an apology for inserting someone's family into a debate.
Trump is not the object, but the honesty. I would respond the same way if incorrect things were said about Carly or any of the other Repbulicans with the exception of Paul.
I checked, and I was wrong about how Carly responded to the Trump comment about her face. It was asked of her by the moderator. Trump offered no denial of the quote, and it doesn't take long to look up the quote, and the moderator did quote him accurately. Trump also offered no apology, only a comment about her beauty - classic backpedaling.
I think it would be great if we could get Graham and Trump on the same stage at one of these events. I'm not entirely sure that Graham wouldn't deck Trump, and we'd have the full-on WWE-ing of this political cycle that we've all been waiting for. Then we could move on to tag team debates, maybe a cage match debate. Can you smell what Ever Ready is cookin'? Think of the ratings!
I think it would be great if we could get Graham and Trump on the same stage at one of these events. I'm not entirely sure that Graham wouldn't deck Trump, and we'd have the full-on WWE-ing of this political cycle that we've all been waiting for. Then we could move on to tag team debates, maybe a cage match debate. Can you smell what Ever Ready is cookin'? Think of the ratings!
Graham is my Senator. He couldn't/wouldn't go to crapper without McCain holding his hand. I have voted for him each time, but last two was only because the opposition was completely worthless. He finally quit soliciting me after I told his staff that I would move to Arizona if I wanted to vote for McCain, and I would not give financial support to Lindsey as long as his total goal was to be a clone.
He has a quick wit, but he has not been in step with SC conservatives on some issues. In particular, he has been JAG in his military career, and he has been too quick to chastise some of combat leaders and interrogation methods in the hot spots.
I would have actually respected his response if he had said "I was wrong for saying that, and I apologize. Carly is a beautiful woman"
But he didn't. He just backpedaled. He's a coward.
But Trump wasn't misquoted. And it has been proven in multiple articles that he did indeed donate to Bush and try to get casino gambling in FL, something he denied. "believe me, if I wanted it, I would have gotten it". He's a liar.
So, it has to be about Trump and not honesty, because he wasn't misquoted.
So, your guy is both a liar and a coward.