If OO is the best player on the team next year, Pope isn’t going to enjoy the same feelings next year. He isn’t good enough to be your best player if you wanna be a great team.
Gosh I hope Oweh Comes Back
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Show me the teams left that don’t have elite talent. You saying you don’t want elite talent is akin to saying I’m cool with my team just being “mid”. I’m not cool with that for UK. And you shouldn’t be either. Just like many things in life, it takes all types to build a great team. One of those things is some elite level talent.
Who says elite talent is one and done? If I wanted to reference one and dones then I would have used those words.
Also who says you can’t build a cohesive team with elite talent? Pope himself says he wants to build his rosters with a mix of elite talent and also older portal kids. Do you not agree with him?
Pope pursues these high level guys hard. This is a fact. You guys are just doing mental gymnastics after we don’t land them in order to make yourselves feel better. He wants them. But when he doesn’t get them the fans claim we didn’t need them. If that’s the case then pope is wasting a lot of time and resources
Yeah I honestly thought Oweh was a solid enough finisher overall this year when he got close enough. It was Williams who was absolutely terrible at that all the time, stopping short for awkward push shots off the back of the rim.
We will have to disagree. He was the leading scorer on a team that set records this year and went to a S16 despite injuries. He will be our bell cow next year. At least until we start landing better kids
Agree for the most part. But would love to have him back. He just can't be your #1 option if you are wanting to compete for championships.
He's the only guy who could return that'd I'd be fine with losing. Also wouldn't hate if he came back and improved his decision making. There's potential there, but man he do some dumb
sometimes
Here is what I mean;
Is Boogie Fland elite talent?
Is Mark sears?
They are not the same.
I want players who become great college players.
I do not want guys dropping by for a year.
GBB!
I’d love to get a look at these nerds who comment “Oweh isn’t good at finishing at the rim”. It’s literally the thing that he’s best at, easily top 5 at the rim finisher in college basketball this season. If you disagree, you have to name 5 who were better and provide evidence.
I actually think that Noah can be a valuable piece for us in the future.. still have mixed feelings regarding Perry.
Like his energy and desire to win... gonna' need to shoot all Summer and become more consistent from outside.
That’d be a pretty significant pay decrease compared to what he could get from NIL. Overseas rookies get paid peanuts, that’s if the check clears at all.
A desperate team will probably pay him more than Kentucky may be willing to. Will come down to how much he wants. I wouldn't break the bank for him. Nice player though.
If the reports online are true, he told Auburn and Louisville no to more NIL money than UK is offering. He told them both Kentucky is his home. If that is true he will be back. He can do draft to test waters but will not be a first round guy. He needs to work on a few other parts to his game.
That’s the point. They got to the S16. Got their doors blown off. And lost 11 games on the season. You need Otega Owehs. But he isn’t the best player on a championship level team.
You need both. A team built like this one will have Pope out of a job in 3-5 yrs. And FTR, I think he did a really really good job building this team and coaching it.
We are not a luxury to just let a kid like him walk. Look at our roster. Who will be better? We have swung and missed on every single stud we have recruited. I’d love for OO to be complimentary piece. But that’s not the world we live in. We can’t afford to lose him.
Not much about his game told me he was ready to contribute on an NBA team next year. There's a major hitch in his jumper, which won't translate well once they try to fix it (see MKG).
Would really hate to see him bolt and end up in the G League for his career.
Most here seem excited about the prospects of OO coming back because he was the only one who could get to the rim, embrace the contact, and finish. Even so, he does nothing very well. Terrible passer at times, often out of control with the ball, doesn't do much to help teammates, hitch in shot. Don't see him getting drafted.
This is what freaked me out more than anything last night. Why didn’t we dance with the one that brought us? I counted like four possessions we actually ran our zoom action at all last night.
Could have been some I missed; I was distracted by watching us getting our head caved in. But I don’t think I missed too much. I saw all kinds of single man elbow cuts with no screener, desperation running around the perimeter with people who aren’t shot creators trying to create their own shots while under heavy coverage and sometimes double coverage, some high/low action, some back door cuts, some dump offs like you said both from and to our bigs, a fair amount of Butler and Oweh driving one on five more or less. In other words, a few mini plays, but mostly street ball against the second-rated defense in the nation. What was our game plan??
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One of my concerns with Pope is his offense. Before the season started we heard about one of the guys on his staff who is an offensive savant. Supposedly we'd be running all sorts of action. I watched video of BYU and was surprised at all the ball movement. What happened to that being here at UK? If my memory serves me correctly, even in Pitino's early days here at UK, there was more ball movement. Were we THAT SLOW and WEAK that we couldn't even do the basics? It seemed early in the season there was a lot more ball movement, by season end that seemed to stop, with only occasional moments of that. Pope quite often went away from the hot players in games, what was working, and I'm wondering if he did the same thing with the offense (or relying on his staff).
Yeah. I know there was definitely some wilting as a result of injuries. The rest of it feels like a gray area with Pope definitely being smarter than me Plus Kenpom always rated our offensive efficiency at least fairly high on one hand, and on the other hand I saw the same thing you saw. Here’s hoping Pope saw it too because he’s at least an innovator and as long as he makes some conscious effort to address it I’m optimistic about where that could lead.
Please realize there’s a landing spot between him being a teams best player and him no longer being on the team. I said in another post in this thread that we need an Otega Oweh. He just can’t be the best player on a championship team. That doesn’t mean I don’t want him. I definitely DO want him. But we need a couple dudes better than him to be championship good.
We were 10th on Pomroy in offensive efficiency. That means we were really good, no matter what your eye test told you.
I spoke with Otega’s parents in Milwaukee after the Illinois game. They said he loved Lexington, UK, and the coaching staff. Their eyes lit up when I asked them about CMP.
I asked if he was returning and did not get a definitive yes, but their demeanor suggested that he was coming back. I may be wrong, of course.
I asked if he was returning and did not get a definitive yes, but their demeanor suggested that he was coming back. I may be wrong, of course.