GOT

[ABlockalypseBrow]

He can do what he wants but it’s pretty clear at this point the series isn’t gonna be finished at least not by him. It’s like wheel of time

Doesn’t seem right to me considering how many folks have devoted time to reading them

To be fair, the author of Wheel of Time died working on them and I think he had some disease that killed him within about a year after he found out he had it.

Not really the same as Martin. I read the back cover of his books when I started them and saw numerous mentions of his previous TV/scriptwork and thought this guy’s gonna lose his motivation once he gets to hang around the TV sets again.

 

[JesusCal91]

Man I loved two with mcnulty on the boat and the longshoremen

When it came time for you to F me...you were very gentle

 

[Nkycatfan17]

While we’re throwing out TV suggestions if you like GOT I’d suggest Vikings on history and Hulu and The Last Kingdom on Netflix.

 

[JesusCal91]

To be fair, the author of Wheel of Time died working on them and I think he had some disease that killed him within about a year after he found out he had it.

Not really the same as Martin. I read the back cover of his books when I started them and saw numerous mentions of his previous TV/scriptwork and thought this guy’s gonna lose his motivation once he gets to hang around the TV sets again.

GRRM isn’t young nor is he exactly a healthy weight

 

[drew_ukfan_rivals]

I like the OA on Netflix if anyone has watched that. Also the Ranch is funny af

 

[mjj_2K]

Too bad he’s not committed to finishing them. Guys a dirtbag he’s broken the reader author contract in my estimation

Wouldn't go that far. It's more like he bit off way, way more than he could chew.

The series was originally supposed to be a trilogy, with large time jumps in between the books. But the first book was a hit (within a very small context- we're talking around 15 years before the TV show debuted) that gave Martin the leeway to expand the story. Which he did, to sometime great effect, but I also think he lost control of the story. Meaning he has no idea how to wrap up all the plot-lines he created.

I think it's even worse now that his readership has increased by a factor of, easily, 20. And there is no way any editor can step in and say "cut that, and we're going with this version". He's too famous for that. A problem I think Stephen King started to face in the 80's. Authors that popular can publish their grocery lists and sell millions of copies, so no one, anywhere, can say "no", or have any influence on what (or when) they write.

 

[HoldMyBeer]

Most Def.

Two hour episodes, right?

No. Actual show length run times for the final season are:

Ep1 - 54 min
Ep2 - 58 min
Ep3 - 60 min
Ep4 - 78 min
Ep5 - 80 min
Ep6 - 80 min

 

[ABlockalypseBrow]

GRRM isn’t young nor is he exactly a healthy weight

Yeah so he shouldn’t be taking his time writing if he wants to finish this series. Very different from a guy who had no way to see his death coming.

Not judging him though, it’s his life to live.

 

[bgoad72]

The walking dead had the potential to be a great show also but like got went off the rails after the first few seasons

I 100% agree with you about walking dead. Show became stupid.

Curious as to why you think that about Thrones? I loved the early seasons, but really like the last two. As somebody who read the books before season 1 started, maybe my old self was pissed at Martin for not finishing and the show actually gave me new material I had been waiting years on, so it was great for me. Curious about you what you didn’t like.

 

[JesusCal91]

I 100% agree with you about walking dead. Show became stupid.

Curious as to why you think that about Thrones? I loved the early seasons, but really like the last two. As somebody who read the books before season 1 started, maybe my old self was pissed at Martin for not finishing and the show actually gave me new material I had been waiting years on, so it was great for me. Curious about you what you didn’t like.

1 and 3 were fantastic. 2 and 4 very good. 5 was awful six was decent and 7 had its moments it was very rushed. When they got past the book storyline it became watered down

First three seasons of walking dead were frankly awesome

 

[WildMoon]

The wire is arguably considered the greatest show ...

I like a good drama and I like realism. For as much as I'm enjoying GoT, there's an awful lot to play with and an awful lot of times we have to suspend disbelief.

Oz was great. Gritty, good acting. But it will leave you almost depressed after every episode. There aren't many "good" characters. Like The Wire, I thought it did a great job depicting it's content: a hopeless life in a maximum security prison.

 

[WildMoon]

I 100% agree with you about walking dead. Show became stupid.

Curious as to why you think that about Thrones? I loved the early seasons, but really like the last two. As somebody who read the books before season 1 started, maybe my old self was pissed at Martin for not finishing and the show actually gave me new material I had been waiting years on, so it was great for me. Curious about you what you didn’t like.

I think storytelling is far better in early parts because they had stuff to work with...

But because of it action and emotion that rises in later season is just super high. I don't see as good of story telling in the later ones so .it just lives off the earlier content.

 

[El_Duderino87]

The first season of True Detective is really hard to beat in terms of tv series.

 

[mjj_2K]

I 100% agree with you about walking dead. Show became stupid.

Curious as to why you think that about Thrones? I loved the early seasons, but really like the last two. As somebody who read the books before season 1 started, maybe my old self was pissed at Martin for not finishing and the show actually gave me new material I had been waiting years on, so it was great for me. Curious about you what you didn’t like.

I'm not him, and don't totally agree with him, but I'd say season 7 went off the rails in a fairly major way.

Season 6 had some of the best episodes in the show's history, exactly because they brought a resolution to things that had been hinted at in the books, or that came directly from George RR Martin. The Hodor storyline, the destruction of the Sept of Baelor, the truth of Jon Snow's parentage.

Season 7 lost almost all connection to Martin, and it just got dumb. Dumb decisions by characters, dumb plot-lines, and a willingness to suspend the rules of space and time in service to the big moment.

 

[WildMoon]

Have anyone seen leftover .

That **** was mind boggling

I still need to finish it tho.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

1 and 3 were fantastic. 2 and 4 very good. 5 was awful six was decent and 7 had its moments it was very rushed. When they got past the book storyline it became watered down

First three seasons of walking dead were frankly awesome

I've very much enjoyed 1 and 2 so far. So questions thats you may or may not be able to answer: What made 5 and 6 so mediocre? And Around when in the series does the book end and other writers start to take over

The wire is arguably considered the greatest show ...

The closet to perfection for me. What keeps me from giving a show like GoT a 10 is that there's just too many Deus Ex Machina moments. For example, (SPOILER) when Renly is offed by dark magic. How convenient. Yes, part of the book it may be, but these shows are able to make up their own rules. That's great and all, but when I watch a show like The Wire, I'm more amazed it can make riveting TV by playing in the real world. No Magic, no high body counts, everything is by the book.

I think that's why drama's make for the highest acclaimed movies (as opposed to action or horror), they need to rely on acting and story telling.

 

[ABlockalypseBrow]

Wouldn't go that far. It's more like he bit off way, way more than he could chew.

The series was originally supposed to be a trilogy, with large time jumps in between the books. But the first book was a hit (within a very small context- we're talking around 15 years before the TV show debuted) that gave Martin the leeway to expand the story. Which he did, to sometime great effect, but I also think he lost control of the story. Meaning he has no idea how to wrap up all the plot-lines he created.

I think it's even worse now that his readership has increased by a factor of, easily, 20. And there is no way any editor can step in and say "cut that, and we're going with this version". He's too famous for that. A problem I think Stephen King started to face in the 80's. Authors that popular can publish their grocery lists and sell millions of copies, so no one, anywhere, can say "no", or have any influence on what (or when) they write.

On top of that, ending a story is a lot harder than starting it. At least if you’re trying to do it right. It’s almost the difference between asking a question and answering it.

 

[WildMoon]

I've very much enjoyed 1 and 2 so far. So questions thats you may or may not be able to answer: What made 5 and 6 so mediocre? And Around when in the series does the book end and other writers start to take over



The closet to perfection for me. What keeps me from giving a show like GoT a 10 is that there's just too many Deus Ex Machina moments. For example, (SPOILER) when Renly is offed by dark magic. Yes, part of the book it may be, but these shows are able to make up their own rules. That's great and all, but when I watch a show like The Wire, I'm more amazed it can make riveting TV by playing in the real world. No Magic, no high body counts, everything is by the book.

I think that's why drama's make for the highest acclaimed movies (as opposed to action or horror), they need to rely on acting and story telling.

Magic is fine as long as they don't abuse it or lose any logic behind it.

For most part Got has done a very good job about that. Also. You are in early parts of GoT :joy::joy::joy:.

You just about to taste some holy **** moments. Lol

 

[JesusCal91]

I'm not him, and don't totally agree with him, but I'd say season 7 went off the rails in a fairly major way.

Season 6 had some of the best episodes in the show's history, exactly because they brought a resolution to things that had been hinted at in the books, or that came directly from George RR Martin. The Hodor storyline, the destruction of the Sept of Baelor, the truth of Jon Snow's parentage.

Season 7 lost almost all connection to Martin, and it just got dumb. Dumb decisions by characters, dumb plot-lines, and a willingness to suspend the rules of space and time in service to the big moment.

5 was brutal. Sansa being Ramsay’s rag doll. The dorne storyline was ridiculous. Season made me question whether or not I might be done with the show

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Magic is fine as long as they don't abuse it or lose any logic behind it.

For most part Got has done a very good job about that. Also. You are in early parts of GoT :joy::joy::joy:.

You just about to taste some holy **** moments. Lol

I'm very excited. Love it so far. I do have some spoilers.. kinda hard not to after the show has been on since 2011.

 

[WildMoon]

I'm very excited. Love it so far. I do have some spoilers.. kinda hard not to after the show has been on since 2011.

Yeah I'm sure you know some major spoiler.

Like it's all a dream and everyone lives happily ever after

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

I just hate how some of my favorite shows have ended. Hopefully GOT gets it right. Maybe an ending to rival the Red Wedding. That was a doozie.

 

[JesusCal91]

I've very much enjoyed 1 and 2 so far. So questions thats you may or may not be able to answer: What made 5 and 6 so mediocre? And Around when in the series does the book end and other writers start to take over



The closet to perfection for me. What keeps me from giving a show like GoT a 10 is that there's just too many Deus Ex Machina moments. For example, (SPOILER) when Renly is offed by dark magic. How convenient. Yes, part of the book it may be, but these shows are able to make up their own rules. That's great and all, but when I watch a show like The Wire, I'm more amazed it can make riveting TV by playing in the real world. No Magic, no high body counts, everything is by the book.

I think that's why drama's make for the highest acclaimed movies (as opposed to action or horror), they need to rely on acting and story telling.

5 is when they begin to deviate from the book and predictably it goes off the rails

 

[JesusCal91]

I just hate how some of my favorite shows have ended. Hopefully GOT gets it right. Maybe an ending to rival the Red Wedding. That was a doozie.

The sopranos cut to black won’t ever be duplicated. Real genius that

 

[WildMoon]

I just hate how some of my favorite shows have ended. Hopefully GOT gets it right. Maybe an ending to rival the Red Wedding. That was a doozie.

I think it's kind of impossible for them to end it right... GRRM better be knee deep in it .

 

[JesusCal91]

I think it's kind of impossible for them to end it right... GRRM better be knee deep in it .

Everybody dying in a gruesome way and bran sits the iron throne with hodor would be fine with me. Oh and dany stands there nekked

 

[mjj_2K]

Have anyone seen leftover .

That **** was mind boggling

I still need to finish it tho.

You should. They stuck the landing. And the series was the perfect length for what it was. Not every show needs to be dragged out for as long as possible. Some things make a perfect statement in a constrained amount of time.

The "International Assassin" episode was one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen on television.

 

[Rideordiewildcat]

The sopranos cut to black won’t ever be duplicated. Real genius that

A lot of my favorite shows I had hoped would have a movie. But nope all we get is Sex in the ******. That thing gets a movie, but some of the classics that changed TV can't, WTF?

 

[WildMoon]

You should. They stuck the landing. And the series was the perfect length for what it was. Not every show needs to be dragged out for as long as possible. Some things make a perfect statement in a constrained amount of time.

The "International Assassin" episode was one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen on television.

this show makes me nervous..lol, that's why I haven't finished it.

 

[joshua029]

Most Def.

Two hour episodes, right?

No, first two are about 55 minutes. The last 2 are 80 to 84 minutes. The fight for winterfell, I believe will be episode 2, should be an episode of nothing but fighting. Supposed to be the largest battle ever done in any show or movie.

 

[WildMoon]

No, first two are about 55 minutes. The last 2 are 80 to 84 minutes. The fight for winterfell, I believe will be episode 2, should be an episode of nothing but fighting. Supposed to be the largest battle ever done in any show or movie.

winter fell fight is episode 3, I believe.

 

[TortElvisII]

Book is about 10x better

Nobody ever said that about Green Acres.

 

[BlueintheBrew]

Enjoy!

#GOT

 

[wromanp7]

Mmm,k

 

[BigRedMachineBigBlueNation]

To be fair, the author of Wheel of Time died working on them and I think he had some disease that killed him within about a year after he found out he had it.

Not really the same as Martin. I read the back cover of his books when I started them and saw numerous mentions of his previous TV/scriptwork and thought this guy’s gonna lose his motivation once he gets to hang around the TV sets again.

Martin was insired by Robertg Jordan. Jordan even encouraged Martin to start writing.

 

[Wall2Boogie]

I knew he would ride the dragon lol. Wait till he finds out he was making out with his aunt

 

[Michael Steffen]

I like the OA on Netflix if anyone has watched that. Also the Ranch is funny af

The oa is a great show and it's only getting started. Endless possibilities

 

[nerdcat_rivals308595]

Daggone it, I missed the show with dragons.

 

[bigblueinsanity_rivals250340]

Wouldn't go that far. It's more like he bit off way, way more than he could chew.

The series was originally supposed to be a trilogy, with large time jumps in between the books. But the first book was a hit (within a very small context- we're talking around 15 years before the TV show debuted) that gave Martin the leeway to expand the story. Which he did, to sometime great effect, but I also think he lost control of the story. Meaning he has no idea how to wrap up all the plot-lines he created.

I think it's even worse now that his readership has increased by a factor of, easily, 20. And there is no way any editor can step in and say "cut that, and we're going with this version". He's too famous for that. A problem I think Stephen King started to face in the 80's. Authors that popular can publish their grocery lists and sell millions of copies, so no one, anywhere, can say "no", or have any influence on what (or when) they write.

Yep. About half the last book was worthless nonsense that has no conceivable impact on the story

 

[joshua029]

winter fell fight is episode 3, I believe.

Good, that works out so much better for my work schedule.