Grading Krafty

leinbacker

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This. Seems to me that people want to skewer Kraft for not providing daily coaching search "howgozitz." As some people pointed out, he didn't owe anything of the sort. In the end, the hire appears to be a very good one.

And the alternative? Keep Franklin to season's end and then engage Campbell? All you have then is a huge pressure cooker with Franklin unhappy, fans unhappy, players - who knows, some maybe happy, some not. If results are what counts, Kraft did good. I'd give him a B, BTW. I don't think there was much that could've been done to salvage the class, and in any case, recruits these days seem to commit/decommit a great deal. I would expect Campbell to have a good roster in place ASAP, certainly by the time next season starts.

Otherwise, I agree with the OP.

Keeping Franklin coaching would have been ugly, like you said - "fi-re Frank-lin" chants, and worst.

I wonder if Iowa State expected Campbell would be gone. It took them one day to get the Wazzu coach to replace him. Seems like there was some inside knowledge.
 

CFLion

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Moving on from Franklin - A
It had to be done. Franklin clearly was distracted the entire season and the team modeled his lack of effort. Per insiders Franklin attempted to get a raise over the summer and unsuccessfully went over Krafty's head after he was denied and told to win the big games first. I think he resented this and it impacted his coaching performance during the season. Also of importance is that Franklin was mismanaging NIL by rewarding tenure rather than performance. There was reportedly descension in the locker room over NIL compensation. Franklin deserves more credit than he has received for his entire tenure, earning early success that was shocking to the cfb world and then maintained that consistency, but he simply had to go at the end. It was too toxic.
Choosing an Interim coach - A
Terry was widely respected in the lockeroom. It was important to quickly place him in the role of interim. Even in losses, the team played with a lot more juice. Terry recognized the lack of passing game and the difficulty the d had with Knowles very difficult scheme and made improvements. The pin was unfortunate and perhaps others influenced him to do that.
Coaching search process - F
Spent too much time going for the homerun in Elko, who was extremely low probability as a likely playoff coach. Krafty loved that Elko is from the northeast, but then inexplicably was enamored with Sitake, a great coach, but from a different region with zero ties to the northeast. Krafty did not anticipate the importance Sitake has in the Mormon community and was ultimately defeated by the cookie guy. Krafty also intentionally leaked the hire thinking a handshake was enough and never got a signature. In the end, it was for the best as Campbell is a better fit here. The other insane report is that Krafty did not have the right contact info for Campbell and missed an opportunity to hire him earlier and save at least a portion of the recruiting class.
Final Hire - A
Not to rehash all of the commentary already on the board, but Campbell is the right coach for this job. Kraft deserves credit for galvanizing the donors to make that NIL commitment to Campbell as well. I think Campbell has the ability to reach a higher ceiling than Franklin, but it will take time. We all see the amount of rot in the program. 2026 is a total rebuild year from the ground up.
Miscellaneous
The leaked audio of his locker room speech did contain a lot of truths and shows Krafty, while more meathead than brains, does understand the college football world and wants PSU to be successful.

Those were my grades one term at Penn State…..
 

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NIL is a slap in the face to past greats who played for love of the game and school. Possibly the coach for some.
 

Nitt1300

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Do you think the slots will go unfilled? $30 million in money for players, the most in college football.
sure they will be filled- but will they be as good as those we lost? the portal is the used car market- there are probably some gems, but there are going to some clunkers, too
 

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sure they will be filled- but will they be as good as those we lost? the portal is the used car market- there are probably some gems, but there are going to some clunkers, too
This class was mostly just ok. Franklin lost a lot of recruit battles and we have come to learn it was because he was giving NIL to favorites and very little to recruits. I remember many high ranked recruits we were in competition for that we lost very late in the game. It seems in retrospect some of them really wanted to be here and gave Franklin every chance to offer competitive NIL but he didn’t, despite having a ton of money to spend. He underachieved with the $ he had, and Kraft took issue with it. We can do better than Franklin’s class, save for a few like Kevin Brown.
 

Nitt1300

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This class was mostly just ok. Franklin lost a lot of recruit battles and we have come to learn it was because he was giving NIL to favorites and very little to recruits. I remember many high ranked recruits we were in competition for that we lost very late in the game. It seems in retrospect some of them really wanted to be here and gave Franklin every chance to offer competitive NIL but he didn’t, despite having a ton of money to spend. He underachieved with the $ he had, and Kraft took issue with it. We can do better than Franklin’s class, save for a few like Kevin Brown.
Time will tell, but I think this next season will be tough. That said, I really like Campbell. and longer term I think he'll do well.
 

Nits1989

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Time will tell, but I think this next season will be tough. That said, I really like Campbell. and longer term I think he'll do well.
I agree, it could be rough. But Indiana rose out of nowhere, so did Texas Tech. I’m sure there are others. PS has the most NIL money now at $30 million. It’s more than LSU. Nobody on this board thought PS had it. I think it’s possible to get it up and going next year. The 2026 class wouldn’t be starting next year. Try to keep the best on the roster, bring the best from Iowa State, try to flip back some of the 2026 class, go after the best available for late signing in February and work the portal. Everyone knows PS has money to pay.
 

PSU4U

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Moving on from Franklin - A
It had to be done. Franklin clearly was distracted the entire season and the team modeled his lack of effort. Per insiders Franklin attempted to get a raise over the summer and unsuccessfully went over Krafty's head after he was denied and told to win the big games first. I think he resented this and it impacted his coaching performance during the season. Also of importance is that Franklin was mismanaging NIL by rewarding tenure rather than performance. There was reportedly descension in the locker room over NIL compensation. Franklin deserves more credit than he has received for his entire tenure, earning early success that was shocking to the cfb world and then maintained that consistency, but he simply had to go at the end. It was too toxic.
Choosing an Interim coach - A
Terry was widely respected in the lockeroom. It was important to quickly place him in the role of interim. Even in losses, the team played with a lot more juice. Terry recognized the lack of passing game and the difficulty the d had with Knowles very difficult scheme and made improvements. The pin was unfortunate and perhaps others influenced him to do that.
Coaching search process - F
Spent too much time going for the homerun in Elko, who was extremely low probability as a likely playoff coach. Krafty loved that Elko is from the northeast, but then inexplicably was enamored with Sitake, a great coach, but from a different region with zero ties to the northeast. Krafty did not anticipate the importance Sitake has in the Mormon community and was ultimately defeated by the cookie guy. Krafty also intentionally leaked the hire thinking a handshake was enough and never got a signature. In the end, it was for the best as Campbell is a better fit here. The other insane report is that Krafty did not have the right contact info for Campbell and missed an opportunity to hire him earlier and save at least a portion of the recruiting class.
Final Hire - A
Not to rehash all of the commentary already on the board, but Campbell is the right coach for this job. Kraft deserves credit for galvanizing the donors to make that NIL commitment to Campbell as well. I think Campbell has the ability to reach a higher ceiling than Franklin, but it will take time. We all see the amount of rot in the program. 2026 is a total rebuild year from the ground up.
Miscellaneous
The leaked audio of his locker room speech did contain a lot of truths and shows Krafty, while more meathead than brains, does understand the college football world and wants PSU to be successful.
I think we tend to be a forgiving fanbase at least to a good degree, I hope. I think 3-4 months from now Kraft's failures might not be looked upon to so harshly. I have called for his firing and looking at it from purely a business standpoint I think he may be taken out eventually. Fair or not that my viewpoint.
 
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Moving on from Franklin - A
It had to be done. Franklin clearly was distracted the entire season and the team modeled his lack of effort. Per insiders Franklin attempted to get a raise over the summer and unsuccessfully went over Krafty's head after he was denied and told to win the big games first. I think he resented this and it impacted his coaching performance during the season. Also of importance is that Franklin was mismanaging NIL by rewarding tenure rather than performance. There was reportedly descension in the locker room over NIL compensation. Franklin deserves more credit than he has received for his entire tenure, earning early success that was shocking to the cfb world and then maintained that consistency, but he simply had to go at the end. It was too toxic.
Choosing an Interim coach - A
Terry was widely respected in the lockeroom. It was important to quickly place him in the role of interim. Even in losses, the team played with a lot more juice. Terry recognized the lack of passing game and the difficulty the d had with Knowles very difficult scheme and made improvements. The pin was unfortunate and perhaps others influenced him to do that.
Coaching search process - F
Spent too much time going for the homerun in Elko, who was extremely low probability as a likely playoff coach. Krafty loved that Elko is from the northeast, but then inexplicably was enamored with Sitake, a great coach, but from a different region with zero ties to the northeast. Krafty did not anticipate the importance Sitake has in the Mormon community and was ultimately defeated by the cookie guy. Krafty also intentionally leaked the hire thinking a handshake was enough and never got a signature. In the end, it was for the best as Campbell is a better fit here. The other insane report is that Krafty did not have the right contact info for Campbell and missed an opportunity to hire him earlier and save at least a portion of the recruiting class.
Final Hire - A
Not to rehash all of the commentary already on the board, but Campbell is the right coach for this job. Kraft deserves credit for galvanizing the donors to make that NIL commitment to Campbell as well. I think Campbell has the ability to reach a higher ceiling than Franklin, but it will take time. We all see the amount of rot in the program. 2026 is a total rebuild year from the ground up.
Miscellaneous
The leaked audio of his locker room speech did contain a lot of truths and shows Krafty, while more meathead than brains, does understand the college football world and wants PSU to be successful.
I think you're being generous.

I'm OK with firing Franklin but the timing was an F. Worse yet he should have had the new guy lined up so as to minimize the damage. All 2027 recruits are gone. Most 2026 recruits are gone. A lot of existing players have been talking to other schools and have probably already made decisions. It's pretty late for Campbell to try to change minds.

I wouldn't give Campbell an A. He might be a very good coach but he lacks recruiting experience in PA, MD, VA, NJ and he doesn't have a national reputation that would attract recruits from other top 10 schools.
 
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Lil Nicky Scarfo

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I think you're being generous.

I'm OK with firing Franklin but the timing was an F. Worse yet he should have had the new guy lined up so as to minimize the damage. All 2027 recruits are gone. Most 2026 recruits are gone. A lot of existing players have been talking to other schools and have probably already made decisions. It's pretty late for Campbell to try to change minds.

I wouldn't give Campbell an A. He might be a very good coach but he lacks recruiting experience in PA, MD, VA, OH, NJ and he doesn't have a national reputation that would attract recruits from other top 10 schools.
He’s from Ohio, went to college there and recruits the state hard.
 
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leinbacker

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Campbell. Instead of chasing elko and sitake. Even worse if the rumor is true that Kraft used a bad contact for Campbell early on.

I still wonder how it could have played out differently though. None of them are going to leave their team mid-season or even announce they are leaving. The timing of all of this was impossible unless you hire someone who is not coaching a team.

It's been said by many that Campbell is a guy who doesn't talk about opportunities during the season, so there is that.

but anyways, we got a good outcome.
 

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Keeping Franklin coaching would have been ugly, like you said - "fi-re Frank-lin" chants, and worst.

I wonder if Iowa State expected Campbell would be gone. It took them one day to get the Wazzu coach to replace him. Seems like there was some inside knowledge.
Keeping Franklin coaching would have been ugly, like you said - "fi-re Frank-lin" chants, and worst.

I wonder if Iowa State expected Campbell would be gone. It took them one day to get the Wazzu coach to replace him. Seems like there was some inside knowledge.
Maybe Campbell was in the bag from the beginning and wasn't allowed to be made public info until the season ended.
 
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BostonNit

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Moving on from Franklin - A
It had to be done. Franklin clearly was distracted the entire season and the team modeled his lack of effort. Per insiders Franklin attempted to get a raise over the summer and unsuccessfully went over Krafty's head after he was denied and told to win the big games first. I think he resented this and it impacted his coaching performance during the season. Also of importance is that Franklin was mismanaging NIL by rewarding tenure rather than performance. There was reportedly descension in the locker room over NIL compensation. Franklin deserves more credit than he has received for his entire tenure, earning early success that was shocking to the cfb world and then maintained that consistency, but he simply had to go at the end. It was too toxic.
Choosing an Interim coach - A
Terry was widely respected in the lockeroom. It was important to quickly place him in the role of interim. Even in losses, the team played with a lot more juice. Terry recognized the lack of passing game and the difficulty the d had with Knowles very difficult scheme and made improvements. The pin was unfortunate and perhaps others influenced him to do that.
Coaching search process - F
Spent too much time going for the homerun in Elko, who was extremely low probability as a likely playoff coach. Krafty loved that Elko is from the northeast, but then inexplicably was enamored with Sitake, a great coach, but from a different region with zero ties to the northeast. Krafty did not anticipate the importance Sitake has in the Mormon community and was ultimately defeated by the cookie guy. Krafty also intentionally leaked the hire thinking a handshake was enough and never got a signature. In the end, it was for the best as Campbell is a better fit here. The other insane report is that Krafty did not have the right contact info for Campbell and missed an opportunity to hire him earlier and save at least a portion of the recruiting class.
Final Hire - A
Not to rehash all of the commentary already on the board, but Campbell is the right coach for this job. Kraft deserves credit for galvanizing the donors to make that NIL commitment to Campbell as well. I think Campbell has the ability to reach a higher ceiling than Franklin, but it will take time. We all see the amount of rot in the program. 2026 is a total rebuild year from the ground up.
Miscellaneous
The leaked audio of his locker room speech did contain a lot of truths and shows Krafty, while more meathead than brains, does understand the college football world and wants PSU to be successful.
Why was Terry's pin "unfortunate"?

He was recruited by and played for the winningest coach in CFB, and after toiling for more than a decade as an assistant finally got to be a HC. Maybe it was a way of showing respect to someone who gave a 5'9, 165 lb. WR a schollie and a shot.
 

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Kraft intentionally leaked a deal with Sitake? Do we know that as accurate? Also, even though Kraft may have not had the best contact info for Campbell, if Campbell does not talk to other teams until the season is over, does it really matter? I was in the Fire Kraft group for most of this week, however, with a lot of other things coming out recently, I am more willing to give him some slack on the process and the timing. I could care less about the video. Whatever. It’s a nothing burger. He didn’t say anything that we don’t already say here most days. That video was released by many with an agenda to make him look bad, but I don’t think it had the effect some thought it would.
In one of the Tengwall’s youtube videos about the search and Sitake miss, the group stated that Kraft (or Kraft’s team) leaked Sitake publicly out thinking they had him with a verbal agreement, totally underestimating the response from the BYU and Mormon communities.
Regarding Campbell’s contact information, that is completely on Kraft. Campbell was on everybody’s coaching board in the country for this position. Yeah, according to some he doesn’t interview during the season, but we don’t know that for sure. Let’s say that’s true. We still could’ve had contact with the agent a month ago and the entire process could’ve been worked out last weekend or Monday worst case. There could have been time to salvage a small class of 10 to 15 by Wednesday.
A lot more details about the entire search process will be released by the typical PSU YouTube shows and such. I think we will learn a lot more of those actual details this week. In the end, it was a great hire and fantastic comeback by Krafty to save the search and quite frankly his own job..
 
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LMTLION

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An excellent summary and an accurate grade for each category.

I strongly disagree with your comment saying “Franklin deserves more credit than he has received”. For years, Franklin spent plenty of his time self-promoting himself as a great CEO of the football program. However, when you look at the details you will see some glaring and major program impacting mistakes.

Staff Personnel:
1) 5 disastrous or underwhelming offense coordinator hires. Only one successful OC hire.
2) At least 3 consecutive disastrous WR coach hires.
3) Horrendous QB development coach.

NIL Management:
  • Distributing significant funds to non star or sub par players based on tenure at the expense of losing several big time recruits.
Portal:
  • Severely under leveraged the use of the portal for key positions in need of an upgrade
  • Talent evaluation for WRs was abominable overall.
Roster Management:
  • Zero quality depth at LB. Once Rojas was injured, the depth issue became magnified and severely limited options for the defense coordinator.
  • For the 3rd consecutive year, the team fielded one of the worst WR positional groups in the B1G conference.
In summary, these areas were poorly managed and hurt the team and especially hampered the offense. A truly great program CEO would never mismanage so many areas critical to the team’s performance.
I cannot disagree with much of what you say as you raise excellent points. I do think he still deserves credit for quickly getting us back to prominence. Although, perhaps any of us on this board could’ve successfully coached a team with Saquon, Trace and Godwin! It’s easy to look good with them.
 

LB99

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The leak was

In one of the Tengwall’s youtube videos about the search and Sitake miss, the group stated that Kraft (or Kraft’s team) leaked Sitake publicly out thinking they had him with a verbal agreement, totally underestimating the response from the BYU and Mormon communities.
Regarding Campbell’s contact information, that is completely on Kraft. Campbell was on everybody’s coaching board in the country for this position. Yeah, according to some he doesn’t interview during the season, but we don’t know that for sure. Let’s say that’s true. We still could’ve had contact with the agent a month ago and the entire process could’ve been worked out last weekend or Monday worst case. There could have been time to salvage a small class of 10 to 15 by Wednesday.
A lot more details about the entire search process will be released by the typical PSU YouTube shows and such. I think we will learn a lot more of those actual details this week. In the end, it was a great hire and fantastic comeback by Krafty to save the search and quite frankly his own job..
Well, if you believe LaVar, Kraft wasn’t the only one leaking info. Also, it has been said that Campbell does not use an agent. He does have a PR duo that helps him with career decisions. I would assume they may have been reachable, but regardless all turned out ok after a lot of teeth mashing by a lot of us, me included. I was in the fire Kraft crowd, but am now thinking there was far more going on behind the scenes than we were aware of. As you said, maybe one day we will know the full story.
 

LB99

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I cannot disagree with much of what you say as you raise excellent points. I do think he still deserves credit for quickly getting us back to prominence. Although, perhaps any of us on this board could’ve successfully coached a team with Saquon, Trace and Godwin! It’s easy to look good with them.
Not when your OL still only has 7 scholarship players and start two converted D linemen. That makes it a challenge, even with those guys.
 
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DELion

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I've heard so many conflicting reports about the search process that I don't know what to believe. There are a lot of people pushing agendas. I'm not going to crucify a guy for a bumpy process without knowing facts, especially when his livelihood is at stake. I'm super happy with the hire and excited to see how things develop from here.
 

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sure they will be filled- but will they be as good as those we lost? the portal is the used car market- there are probably some gems, but there are going to some clunkers, too
Same as every recruiting class, including if the 26 class all signed. You are less likely to get a clunker in the portal, since those guys usually have college level tape to evaluate.
 
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Has he ever hired a coach that won a national championship at a school he was an AD? If not it's a big phucin F!
 

PAgeologist

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I give our "insiders" and media who kept running with every rumor and making up **** a giant F. They made this look like a disaster.

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estimates on how long till the first BWICAC cry of fire Campbell?
I don't want him fired yet, but he needs to learn how to properly wear a hat with a visor brim. Folding/bending the visor into a pronounced arc is downright goofy.

And the gum chewing needs to stop. Who does he think he is, Kirk Ferentz?