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fisherscatfan

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I would pick John Calipari to pick players for a basketball team 100 times before I pick Mark Pope. I respect Cal and what he did for this program.
That’s hard to argue but it can still be true it was time to move on. The incompetence of Mitch does invalidate that.

I live in Indiana, went to IU (hate their sports) and watched them cling to Bob Knight when it was clear he was done. It divided the fan base. The AD was incompetent as hell and they have never recovered. Regardless of what anyone thinks of Knight he was a dominant coach that lost it. They held on too long, made bad decisions and 1987 was a long damn time ago.
 
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HappyBlue

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I never wanted Cal here to begin with and still don't miss him, glad he is gone.
So you would be ok with UK not having hired Calipari and UK not winning a title and UK and UK not going to all the FF's under Cal? I don't care who the coach is if they are winning titles and going to FF's.
 

Randy Bob

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Jun 14, 2009
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Cal having 5 stars every year and losing in the first round of the tourney, yep he was really a good coach, not sure what will happen with Pope and the Cats still glad Cal is gone.
 
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Tim0808

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One bad year???????????? During that 5 year period he won 9 games and missed the tournament, lost to a 14 seed and lost to a 15 seed. You have to be a troll.
1. He had the hottest team in an America. TOURNAMENT CANCELED. GOOD YEAR.
2. He had a losing season in a year people were wearing mask and no fans were aloud in the stands. BAD YEAR.
3. He had a good enough season to earn a #2 seed. Lost to a team that beat 7 seed Michigan State, beat 3 seed Purdue, and lost in the Elite Eight. GOOD YEAR and was beat by a good team (Not A Good Name) in the tournament.
4. He had an AVERAGE YEAR and earned #6 seed. Lost to a good team that was the 3 seed that when to the Elite eight.
5. He had a good year that earned #3 seed and had a bad game (got out coached) losing to a 24 year old shooter that got hot and hit 10 threes. The same team lost in overtime in the second round. GOOD YEAR AND BAD TOURNAMENT GAME.

You must be new to the game of basketball.
 
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Goingfor9

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Jan 27, 2003
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We aren’t tied down with that awful cal contract. we just need to get that crook Barney out of the AD spot and things will be good.That is the bottom line.
 

Goingfor9

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Full pope is like Cal who put it on cruise. Except Cals guys looked like they would win a bodybuilding contest
 

ComebackCats98

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I’m very thankful for what Cal accomplished here. Honestly the rough start to this season has made me appreciate the run we had more. The end was rough especially in March, but we were on top of the basketball world for a while.
 

jrm693

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Didn't cal win 9 games 1 year then flame out 3 years straight to JV squads?
One of them wasn't a JV squad it was some uber drivers we made household names...Calipari does have a pretty solid squad at Arkansas this season, but Wagner, Brazile,Richmond and Knox are all 2-3 year players something that didn't happen at UK if they were here they would have left for a shot a NBA with maybe exception of Wagner and that's just the objective truth.
 

Cats192

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call me when pope gets an elite 8
or a 5 star recruit
Oh yes. What ever will we do without the parade of 5 stars the last to...Evansville, UNC Wilmington, St. Peter's, and Oakland?! At least cal had those guys when he lost!
 

Anon1759768907

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Oh yes. What ever will we do without the parade of 5 stars the last to...Evansville, UNC Wilmington, St. Peter's, and Oakland?! At least cal had those guys when he lost!
id rather lose with good players than lose with bad players

with pope it feels hopeless because most of these guys have hit their ceiling, cals guys only got better
 

Dexterdru71

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Aug 11, 2010
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Dude, Cal was done here. He had become fat and lazy. Whether we hired the right guy to replace him or not remains to be seen, but I’m not sitting here daydreaming about the version of Cal that we had over the last few years here.
He was a shell of the guy that we hired after BCG.
 
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Anon1759768907

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Dude, Cal was done here. He had become fat and lazy. Whether we hired the right guy to replace him or not remains to be seen, but I’m not sitting here daydreaming about the version of Cal that we had over the last few years here.
He was a shell of the guy that we hired after BCG.
maybe but he had 12 good season before he had a disaster season like we are having right now, pope did it in his second season
 

Dexterdru71

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What part of my post was advocating Mark Pope? I said that Cal was done at UK. It was time for change. Having the Covid season and losing in the 1st round to St. Peter’s and Oakland. He had become thin skinned and antagonistic towards the fanbase, “I haven’t seen him.” Players leaving after a season to go play in Serbia. Players first blah blah blah. It was over.
UK needs to bring him back in a few years and give him his just due and hang a jersey for him, but just because things have hit a rough patch in your new marriage, it doesn’t mean that you should be romanticizing your previous one.
 

HappyBlue

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1. He had the hottest team in an America. TOURNAMENT CANCELED. GOOD YEAR.
2. He had a losing season in a year people were wearing mask and no fans were aloud in the stands. BAD YEAR.
3. He had a good enough season to earn a #2 seed. Lost to a team that beat 7 seed Michigan State, beat 3 seed Purdue, and lost in the Elite Eight. GOOD YEAR and was beat by a good team (Not A Good Name) in the tournament.
4. He had an AVERAGE YEAR and earned #6 seed. Lost to a good team that was the 3 seed that when to the Elite eight.
5. He had a good year that earned #3 seed and had a bad game (got out coached) losing to a 24 year old shooter that got hot and hit 10 threes. The same team lost in overtime in the second round. GOOD YEAR AND BAD TOURNAMENT GAME.

You must be new to the game of basketball.
You took a lot of time to make up excuses to say that during those 5 years Calipari sucked in the tournament or didn't make the tournament.

Those 5 years are unacceptable for a program like UK no matter how many excuses you come up with.

You must be new to UK basketball.
 
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JimboBBN

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Pope sucking doesn’t make Cals last years here suck less. He was terrible here. Dumb OP.
 
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Tim0808

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You took a lot of time to make up excuses to say that during those 5 years Calipari sucked in the tournament or didn't make the tournament.

Those 5 years are unacceptable for a program like UK no matter how many excuses you come up with.

You must be new to UK basketball.
I did not say we didn't have 4 bad tournament years. What I said was he didn't have 5 bad years. Teams do not earn #2 and #3 seeds with bad years. You say he sucked 5 years in the tournament and out of the 5 years there were only 4 NCAA tournaments because of COVID. This proves you have an agenda. Cal haters are butt hurt because when he was belittling the fans in the media, you took it personally because you knew he was talking about you.
 

HappyBlue

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I did not say we didn't have 4 bad tournament years. What I said was he didn't have 5 bad years. Teams do not earn #2 and #3 seeds with bad years. You say he sucked 5 years in the tournament and out of the 5 years there were only 4 NCAA tournaments because of COVID. This proves you have an agenda. Cal haters are butt hurt because when he was belittling the fans in the media, you took it personally because you knew he was talking about you.
You just reinforce my belief that you are either a troll or a UK fan that doesn't understand UK basketball. UK teams that earn a #2 and #3 seed and then proceed to lose in the 1st round had a bad year. I don't care if a UK team goes undefeated during the regular season and then loses in the 1st round, that is a bad season. Screw the regular season, screw the SEC tournament. The only thing that matters to UK is NCAA tournament results. Ok lets leave out the season that the tourney was cancelled. Calipari still sucked balls the other 4 years. Just to reiterate the years that he had a #2 and #3 seed were bad years, awful horrible bad years. They lost in the 1st round that negates the regular season and negates the #2 and #3 seed.
 

Cats3x

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I can't believe there are people that still think Cal is a good coach.
 

akaukswoosh

Hall of Famer
Jan 14, 2006
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I think anyone who watched Cal's teams post 2019-2020 and wanted him to move on is thinking very clearly.
Yup.
 

Hogwarts

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As a Hog fan, I think the consensus was it was definitely time for a change for Cal. His last few years at Kentucky, he seemed burnt out to a point. I know the diehards wanted a change too.
Kentucky will turn it around soon, basketball is better when Kentucky is good.
 

Tim0808

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You just reinforce my belief that you are either a troll or a UK fan that doesn't understand UK basketball. UK teams that earn a #2 and #3 seed and then proceed to lose in the 1st round had a bad year. I don't care if a UK team goes undefeated during the regular season and then loses in the 1st round, that is a bad season. Screw the regular season, screw the SEC tournament. The only thing that matters to UK is NCAA tournament results. Ok lets leave out the season that the tourney was cancelled. Calipari still sucked balls the other 4 years. Just to reiterate the years that he had a #2 and #3 seed were bad years, awful horrible bad years. They lost in the 1st round that negates the regular season and negates the #2 and #3 seed.
And you are the reason this program is in the shape it is in. No one wants this program because of what you just said. Enjoy your season and Enjoy the tournament.
 

HappyBlue

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And you are the reason this program is in the shape it is in. No one wants this program because of what you just said. Enjoy your season and Enjoy the tournament.
If a coach doesn't want to come here because they don't think they should be expected to make Final Fours and win titles then we don't need them. As for the season I will enjoy it as much as I enjoyed Cal's last 5 years.....I won't. Hopefully we can get a coach that does well in the regular season and flames out in the 1st or 2nd round of the tourney, so you can be happy with a "great" season.
 

Eastkybball

All-Conference
May 7, 2019
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See Louisville. You’re oblivious if you don’ see how we ran off a hall of fame coach for a mid major nobody. We’re embarrassing.
I honestly wanted Cal gone for health reasons and the best of both parties. The stress of coaching here would’ve put him in a nurse at home in one more year. He went to Ark and he seems to be healthier. He actually makes sense when he talks now. This is a really bad thread op he wasn’t ran off believe me he would’ve stayed just to give us a big f you but Ellen talked him into it.
 

KYFOSSIL

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Jan 13, 2005
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We won a championship, went to 4 Final Fours, and averaged an elite 8 every other year but he had to go. That’s how fake these brainwashed KSR sheep are.
He coached like dog **** his last 5 years and loss most of the fans with his condescending dont give a shot attitude. The last 5 years he failed with alot of 5 stars and NBA players. And no I wasnt A Cal hater.... I strongly support him until he gave up on the program.
 

KYFOSSIL

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Jan 13, 2005
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I mean, the argument can certainly be made that, yes, he is bigger than Kentucky basketball as of now. And will be until Mitch is fired and we have a GM that can turn us around.

Face the facts, hes the only reason we arent Indiana right now (or worse honestly, Indiana at least had a Final four or two in the last 30 years, UK has ZERO without Cal).

As it turns out, Cal was the reason for our success, we needed him. He only needed us as a landing spot because he was in deep water at Memphis. But he was going to keep winning.
96 and 98
 

KYFOSSIL

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This is a 9-16 type of team that will not make the tournament.. and thats WITH $22 million to spend. This team will get 5 or 6 more free wins with cupcakes that the 2020 roster didnt get. But yeah, this team is for sure worse.
No they are not.