Grayson Returning

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Well said, aah555.

That said, ;), I do think it will be tough sledding even with a deep roster for some to get minutes (barring injury). Even with Jeter, assuming he's back, I suspect he'll be at about the same minutes or less down the stretch. He will have to up his game to compete.

Allen, Kennard, Jones, Jackson, Amile, Giles, Tatum, penciling in Bolden (though not a done deal), and Jeter makes 9 with PT.

Not sure how Laura can say that. Is the 9th guy off the bench going to play a lot in our biggest games? No, probably not. IMO, however, it's wildly premature to be presuming a tight 8 man rotation for most of the season (even when talking about K).

First, while K's traditionally limited the rotation to about 8 guys one we get late into the year, it's been quite a long time since he's had 9th or 10th men on the roster who are as good as the 9th and 10th men here (if ever). Back in the late 90s, K's most talented squads did play about 9 guys. While it would be a bit unusual in view of recent history, I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that the 9th guy, for instance, wouldn't at least get some minutes in certain situations.

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, if this team is as good as it should be, there are going to be a lot of blowouts. That alone will likely lead to playing time.

Third, Giles is coming off a major knee injury. While the expectation is that he'll be able to start on Day 1, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the team brings him back slowly and limits his minutes during the first half of next season. The Bucks, for instance, limited Jabari to about 20 or 25 minutes until February of this season. As good as Giles will likely be, I strongly doubt that he will be playing more than 25 or so minutes until the 2nd half of conference season.

Fourth, this conversation about the rotation presumes that we not only remain perfectly healthy throughout the season, but avoid any off the court issues as well. As we've seen in recent years, that's an extremely risk proposition. If you go back over the last few years, in 2010-11 we lost Kyrie for most of the season, in 2012-13 Ryan Kelly missed most of the ACC schedule and Seth Curry was never fully health, in 2014-15 Rasheed Sulaimon was dismissed, and in 2015-16 we obviously lost Amile. And that doesn't even mention what happened when Ryan Kelly was knocked out of the postseason in 11-12. While we'd ideally love to have everyone remain healthy from start to finish, reality is that we've been forced to replace key rotation players in 4 of our last 6 season. IMO, we should all be careful about predicting guys will be buried on the bench when we have no idea how guys will perform and how the season will play out -- particularly when one of the key figures will be a 18 yr. old freshman coming off two torn ACLs.
 

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Going pro was never even on the table for Grayson until after he graduates.. Let's hope he decides to slack off in his classes next year and has to stay a 4th year ;)
Did you just brag about a prediction you made 9 days ago?
 
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God I love the thought that all his haters will have live one more year in misery. Give me ulsers Grayson. I love it
 
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- March 28th

Going pro was never even on the table for Grayson until after he graduates.. Let's hope he decides to slack off in his classes next year and has to stay a 4th year ;)

Yes, it was in consideration; he received feedback from sources on pro potential in the upcoming draft.
 

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I'd actually rather have Obi and DT stay than Bolden commit. There's no substitute for experience, esp when trying to win a national title. Sounds like most "in the know" seem to think DT is gone though, which is a huge loss in my opinion.
 

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Just imagine this for a moment. With Grayson coming back and Bolden possibly joining the team, we would have enough elite talent to practically field two championship calibre teams.
 
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I'd actually rather have Obi and DT stay than Bolden commit. There's no substitute for experience, esp when trying to win a national title. Sounds like most "in the know" seem to think DT is gone though, which is a huge loss in my opinion.
Obi wouldn't play whether we got Bolden or didn't get Bolden. He'll be gone in my opinion.
 
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Remember he's already played a year of D1 before coming to Duke and he's been with the team for two years now. Much more experience than Bolden.
 

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Obi couldn't lace Boldens shoes.

I think Obi will be a solid contributor year after next, though.
 

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If Obi isn't able to perform to Division 1 abilities/ expectations due to knee issues I'm sure coach k would recommend the best for his health. Would still like to seem him connected to the team some how.
 

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Obi wouldn't play whether we got Bolden or didn't get Bolden. He'll be gone in my opinion.


I think so too. I wish we could get the official story on Obi. One thing I can't stand is speculation. OFC
 

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We'll find out soon enough what the plan would be with the scholarship situation -- but clearly Duke knows something that we don't. Maybe it's a transfer. Maybe Sean Obi's knees are worse than we realized and he's planning on ending his career and applying for a medical hardship waiver so that he can complete his education. I would say that it's inconceivable to me that we would be forcing Thrornton, Jeter or anyone else out so that we could add someone like Jack White. The White commit tells me that we had good reason to believe that we'd have at least two open ships to give as of March 3.
 
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I really think we may see a couple of guys red shirt. I really don't know the red shirt rules and what qualifies a player to get one. Are there restrictions that apply. Can anyone help me here? OFC.
 

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I really think we may see a couple of guys red shirt. I really don't know the red shirt rules and what qualifies a player to get one. Are there restrictions that apply. Can anyone help me here? OFC.

There may be redshirts -- but redshirts still count against the scholarship limits.
 

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I honestly don't see DT leaving. Just my opinion. Kid should be a Senior this year and people are giving him hell for his play. Ease up on the kid. Think you can do better, lace up the Chuck Taylor's and go play.
 

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I honestly don't see DT leaving. Just my opinion. Kid should be a Senior this year and people are giving him hell for his play. Ease up on the kid. Think you can do better, lace up the Chuck Taylor's and go play.


Trust me I dont think any of us want Derryck to leave, but people are just going by the rumors. I hope he stays, it will be nice to have guys around for 3-4 years.
 
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I believe the Jack White commit tells us that something is DEFINITELY happening in the next few weeks.
I cannot imagine that the staff would risk losing Bolden for Jack White.
In my opinion, it is 1 of 2 scenarios (remember-redshirting still counts for the scholarship limit)........
1. DT transferring
2. Obi transferring or retiring

I love Obi's heart and desire as much as anyone, but if I had to pick, its an easy choice.............
 

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Love Christian's Shirt!!!
 

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Love Christian's Shirt!!!


Wouldn't be great along with these two to have Danny Ferry, Bobby Hurley, Wojo, Chris Collins, JJ Redick, Kyle Singler, Josh McRoberts, Greg Paulus and Jon Scheyer in this photo. Sorry Luke maybe you can make this elite group next year or after Grayson is gone. Did I leave anyone out? OFC
 
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Wouldn't be great along with these two to have Danny Ferry, Bobby Hurley, Wojo, Chris Collins, JJ Redick, Kyle Singler and Jon Scheyer in this photo. Sorry Luke maybe you can make this elite group next year or after Grayson is gone. Did I leave anyone out? OFC

Quinn Cook???
 

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Remember quite a few people here being like "HE'S CRYING AFTER THE ACCT LOSS BECAUSE HE KNOWS IT'S HIS LAST ACC GAME EVER"

Man I thought that was so stupid. Had nothing to do with that as we can clearly see.
 
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Remember quite a few people here being like "HE'S CRYING AFTER THE ACCT LOSS BECAUSE HE KNOWS IT'S HIS LAST ACC GAME EVER"

Man I thought that was so stupid. Had nothing to do with that as we can clearly see.

Just proves even more how special he is
 
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Remember quite a few people here being like "HE'S CRYING AFTER THE ACCT LOSS BECAUSE HE KNOWS IT'S HIS LAST ACC GAME EVER"

Man I thought that was so stupid. Had nothing to do with that as we can clearly see.
You and me both, and funny how so many guys in the know thought he was gone. Not necassarilly on here, but on Twitter a lot of bloggers that I follow said he was gone.
 
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