Greg Sankey SEC Commissioner Not focused on expansion

KingWard

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I disagree, this is about money. There are only 2 sports that even come close to breaking even or making money. Football and to a lesser degree basketball. Everything else is a drag. Decisions are not made on money losing sports. They are made on the money Makers. Those are the ones that control the decisions.
Basketball to a much lesser degree, microscopically less.
 
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Basketball to a much lesser degree, microscopically less.
Disagree there as well. College sports brings in roughly 15.8 billion dollars in revenue in a year. College basket ball only brings in a billion and that is due to march madness. So tell me again how there is a microscopic difference. Football stands on it on as the money maker. Those are the facts, that is the sport that conference decisions are made on. Everything else is a side issue.

 
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Disagree there as well. College sports brings in roughly 15.8 billion dollars in revenue in a year. College basket ball only brings in a billion and that is due to march madness. So tell me again how there is a microscopic difference. Football stands on it on as the money maker. Those are the facts, that is the sport that conference decisions are made on. Everything else is a side issue.


I think he was agreeing with you and saying that basketball brings in a microscopic amount compared to football.
 
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atl-cock

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Agreed, but I think we all understand that he meant that certain sport(s) matter more when it comes to tv contracts, and money.
That's true, but I like to put that in writing as a way of showing respect to the athletes whose sports are not "high profile."
 
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I disagree, this is about money. There are only 2 sports that even come close to breaking even or making money. Football and to a lesser degree basketball. Everything else is a drag. Decisions are not made on money losing sports. They are made on the money Makers. Those are the ones that control the decisions.

Look no further than ND for an example.
As I previously asked, how do D-II, D-III, and NAIA schools do it, when all of their varsity sports lose money?

If it was strictly about the money, why sponsor money-losing programs?
 

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As I previously asked, how do D-II, D-III, and NAIA schools do it, when all of their varsity sports lose money?

If it was strictly about the money, why sponsor money-losing programs?
For one thing, D-II and lower sports are bare bones operations. Operating costs are minimal. No frills. Also, far less money is allocated for athletic scholarships (only 36 for D-II football compared to 85 for D-I). Many are on partial scholarships. D-III doesn't even offer athletic scholarships.

So, the answer to your question is that they don't generate much revenue, but they don't need to generate much revenue because operating costs bare bones. You ever watch the show "Last Chance U"? That gives you a good idea of what programs do to cut costs. Players dumping bags of ice in large kiddie pools and filling them with a garden hose to soak in. Players wash their own uniforms. Etc.

It's basically like comparing an MLB operation to a Class A operation.
 
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Disagree there as well. College sports brings in roughly 15.8 billion dollars in revenue in a year. College basket ball only brings in a billion and that is due to march madness. So tell me again how there is a microscopic difference. Football stands on it on as the money maker. Those are the facts, that is the sport that conference decisions are made on. Everything else is a side issue.

A good read. Thanks for sharing.
 

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Football is the pig - basketball is the lipstick - when it comes to revenue sports!
 

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Disagree there as well. College sports brings in roughly 15.8 billion dollars in revenue in a year. College basket ball only brings in a billion and that is due to march madness. So tell me again how there is a microscopic difference. Football stands on it on as the money maker. Those are the facts, that is the sport that conference decisions are made on. Everything else is a side issue.

You have misconstrued. "Microscopically" was meant as a metaphorical comparison between the financial contribution of basketball to that of football.
 
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I'm pretty pissed and pessimistic. The SEC already has 492 teams as it is....

Adding TX and OU and frankly TAMU and Mizzou was just dumb. They don't belong in any reality. Ultimately I think it will weaken the SEC in general.
Glad the conference didnt feel that way when debating about inviting us.
 

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For one thing, D-II and lower sports are bare bones operations. Operating costs are minimal. No frills. Also, far less money is allocated for athletic scholarships (only 36 for D-II football compared to 85 for D-I). Many are on partial scholarships. D-III doesn't even offer athletic scholarships.

So, the answer to your question is that they don't generate much revenue, but they don't need to generate much revenue because operating costs bare bones. You ever watch the show "Last Chance U"? That gives you a good idea of what programs do to cut costs. Players dumping bags of ice in large kiddie pools and filling them with a garden hose to soak in. Players wash their own uniforms. Etc.

It's basically like comparing an MLB operation to a Class A operation.
Agreed. And as an example, uniforms are likely recycled yearly.

All sports matter to the participants. But when it comes to funding the sports programs at a high P5 level, football does matter most.
 

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I'm pretty pissed and pessimistic. The SEC already has 492 teams as it is....

Adding TX and OU and frankly TAMU and Mizzou was just dumb. They don't belong in any reality. Ultimately I think it will weaken the SEC in general.
Never did like bringing Missouri to the SEC - A&M if we had known what we know today but did not and that's Texas coming in. Maintains a rivalry in the state of Texas as well. But really was not sold on them as well when they were first mentioned along with Missouri. Oklahoma should have stayed with OK State and headed an upgrading of the Big 12.
There's a point where expansion gets out of control , to me the SEC has reached that point - time to stop and let things settle as no other conference with the same number of teams will ever come close to the difficulty level of the SEC.
 
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I'm pretty pissed and pessimistic. The SEC already has 492 teams as it is....

Adding TX and OU and frankly TAMU and Mizzou was just dumb. They don't belong in any reality. Ultimately I think it will weaken the SEC in general.
One major consideration to invite TAMU and Mizzou was that both are members of the AAU, so the academic profile of the SEC increased exponentially.
Also, that brought in the Missouri and part of the Texas viewership thereby increasing the TV footprint of the SEC.
 
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