Grilling and Smoking '17

Captain Forehead

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So... Almost 4 hours into cook. Decisions I made:

Started at 5:00am.
Cleaned out entire Egg.
Oiled grille
New maple lump, Hickory and pecan chunks
DigiQ at 275°
Water pan with coffee
Trimmed Brisket :deckle & silverskin
Fresh ground pepper and kosher salt rub 50/50, lightly applied
Dusted with Fette Sau Rub
Let meat come up to room temp
Popped it on Fatside up, point at back of Egg...(I just couldn't do fatside down. )

Spritzed at 10:30 mark, looked beautiful
Giving it 2 more hours, then wrapping with butcher paper- Then flipping to fatside down.
Status? Don't leave me hanging like this.
<----- eager with anticipation.
 

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Question for you professional smokers. I am smoking a brisket this weekend in a WSM. Once I hit the stall at 165 degrees and wrap it in butcher paper, is there any reason that I can't finish the cook in a 250 degree oven on a roasting pan with rack? That way I don't have to tend the fire all day. I assume that the meat isn't going to pick up any more smoke or enhanced flavor once wrapped anyway. Thoughts?
 
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Question for you professional smokers. I am smoking a brisket this weekend in a WSM. Once I hit the stall at 165 degrees and wrap it in butcher paper, is there any reason that I can't finish the cook in a 250 degree oven on a roasting pan with rack? That way I don't have to tend the fire all day. I assume that the meat isn't going to pick up any more smoke or enhanced flavor once wrapped anyway. Thoughts?

Yes, it is acceptable to finish in oven.

Firstly, you should wrap when the color is right regardless of temp (4-5 hour mark). You don’t want to over-smoke. Prior to wrapping, spritz with pickle juice.

Second, put a small waterbath in oven.

Inject that ***** with Butcher’s Phosphate, Wostershire, beef bullion... something.

Because you’re cheating, undo paper when done... put back on pit and slightly glaze and sprinkle rub for another 1/2 hour - trying to reestablish bark that was steamed mushy in paper/oven.
 

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Anyone here own a Kamado Joe? Thinking of pulling the trigger on the new '17 model, and getting into the grilling and smoking game. Of course, I've been watching/reading about it but would be interested in seeing if anyone here has any thoughts or experience with one.


Not sure if you bought one, but I have the 24” XL and had had zero issues. Love it.
 

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Yes, it is acceptable to finish in oven.

Firstly, you should wrap when the color is right regardless of temp (4-5 hour mark). You don’t want to over-smoke. Prior to wrapping, spritz with pickle juice.

Second, put a small waterbath in oven.

Inject that ***** with Butcher’s Phosphate, Wostershire, beef bullion... something.

Because you’re cheating, undo paper when done... put back on pit and slightly glaze and sprinkle rub for another 1/2 hour - trying to reestablish bark that was steamed mushy in paper/oven.

Thanks for the tips. Are you suggesting that I inject it because I am cheating on the back end of the cook or do you always inject for more flavor?

Curious as to why the pickle juice vs. something like apple juice?
 
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You shouldn’t have to tend much of a fire in a WSM.

I have been losing temperature (about 20-25 degrees) after about 5-6 hours in my 14" WSM (the smallest size). I am getting a lot of ash build up in the fire ring so that when I put on the second round of coals they aren't breathing as well as the first batch. I am going to try mixing some lump charcoal in with my Kingsford briquets as it leaves much less ash residue when it burns. Also I have been making a bonehead mistake by putting room temperature liquid in the water pan as I refill it. I figured out that I need to use hot liquid as to not slow the cook. Any other suggestions?
 
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Thanks for the tips. Are you suggesting that I inject it because I am cheating on the back end of the cook or do you always inject for more flavor?

Curious as to why the pickle juice vs. something like apple juice?

I think that the kitchen oven delivers the dry heat -as opposed to pit which draws in outside air (humidity) to the equation. That’s why I suggested injecting & water pan.

Rumored that Aaron Franklin uses pickle juice... I tried with success the last two briskets.
 
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I think that the kitchen oven delivers the dry heat -as opposed to pit which draws in outside air (humidity) to the equation. That’s why I suggested injecting & water pan.

Rumored that Aaron Franklin uses pickle juice... I tried with success the last two briskets.

Steven Raichlen uses pickle juice in his brisket recipe so there must be something to it.

https://barbecuebible.com/recipe/slam-dunk-brisket/
 
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Try Raichlain’s Gulf Coast Shrimp recipe... do it now.:fire::fire::fire:

Is the below recipe the one you are talking about, found it on a BGE site attributed to him? Steve has 6 shrimp recipes on his website but none for Gulf Coast Shrimp.
  1. 1 1/2 pounds Shrimp
  2. 1 cup Clam juice
  3. 1/2 cup Butter
  4. 6 cloves Garlic, minced
  5. 4 Scalllion(s), minced
  6. 1-2 tablespoon(s) Tabasco
  7. 1 tablespoon Worcestershire sauce
  8. 2 Bay leaf(s)
  9. 1-2 teaspoon(s) Cayenne pepper
  10. 2 teaspoon(s) Paprika
  11. 2 teaspoon(s) Thyme, dried
  12. 2 teaspoon(s) Oregano, dried
  13. 1 1/2 teaspoon(s) Salt
  14. 1 teaspoon Black pepper, coarsely ground
  15. 1/2 cup Corn syrup, dark
  16. 1/4 cup Molasses
PREPARATION:

When shelling shrimp, KEEP the shells. Combine those and the clam juice and bring to boil, then let simmer, uncovered, for 15 minutes. Strain this broth and add everything else. Bring to boil and cook, uncovered, till thick, about 10 minutes. Cool to room temp and add shrimp. Refrigerate for 2-4 hours. Grill shrimp or cook in oven in the marinade. If grilling, brush with marinade. Boil remaining marinade to reduce a bit and serve with shrimp.
 
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Yes, but rather than molasses and corn syrup, he calls for Steen’s Cane syrup... which you can get via Amazon (which I did).
 

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Yes, but rather than molasses and corn syrup, he calls for Steen’s Cane syrup... which you can get via Amazon (which I did).
Is the below recipe the one you are talking about, found it on a BGE site attributed to him? Steve has 6 shrimp recipes on his website...PREPARATION:

When shelling shrimp, KEEP the shells. Combine those and the clam juice and bring to boil, then let simmer, uncovered, for 15 minutes. Strain this broth and add everything else. Bring to boil and cook, uncovered, till thick, about 10 minutes. Cool to room temp and add shrimp. Refrigerate for 2-4 hours. Grill shrimp or cook in oven in the marinade. If grilling, brush with marinade. Boil remaining marinade to reduce a bit and serve with shrimp.
This is close... but someone’s adaptation. There are subtle differences. But try to get Steens.

The original recipe comes from his Barbecue! Bible.

BTW: I use Steens in my secret shoulder injection recipe. It’s good and versatile.
 
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This is close... but someone’s adaptation. There are subtle differences. But try to get Steens.

The original recipe comes from his Barbecue! Bible.

BTW: I use Steens in my secret shoulder injection recipe. It’s good and versatile.
I finally got around to making the Gulf Coast Shrimp recipe that you recommended several years back. It turned out great and my wife suggested that it be put into regular meal rotation. Thanks for sharing.
 
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