Ground rules for COVID discussions?

BobPSU92

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I am seeking input from the powers that be, not folks who are objectionable or who might find COVID threads objectionable. You might be inclined to report a thread, but you don’t pull the plug. I’d like to hear from the decision makers.

There is a political element to COVID. We have no test board here. We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared. I did not see an obvious reason for it to be pulled, though one person complained about the mere presence of the thread. Did I miss an implosion last night?

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.
 

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I am seeking input from the powers that be, not folks who are objectionable or who might find COVID threads objectionable. You might be inclined to report a thread, but you don’t pull the plug. I’d like to hear from the decision makers.

There is a political element to COVID. We have no test board here. We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared. I did not see an obvious reason for it to be pulled, though one person complained about the mere presence of the thread. Did I miss an implosion last night?

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.
I listen to my Doc, a PSU grad and UPenn Med. Told me to get the booster, grab a Caramel Latte with 2 scones, go home and download a Midnighter poll....assures me it will keep all variants away!
 

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I am seeking input from the powers that be, not folks who are objectionable or who might find COVID threads objectionable. You might be inclined to report a thread, but you don’t pull the plug. I’d like to hear from the decision makers.

There is a political element to COVID. We have no test board here. We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared. I did not see an obvious reason for it to be pulled, though one person complained about the mere presence of the thread. Did I miss an implosion last night?

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.

What was the point of your thread? To talk about Covid? If so, maybe frame it better. When you lead with ‘Politician I disagree with mandates vaccines for private companies in his area of jurisdiction’, the discussion to follow is not going to be ‘about Covid’ and you know this.
 
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I am seeking input from the powers that be, not folks who are objectionable or who might find COVID threads objectionable. You might be inclined to report a thread, but you don’t pull the plug. I’d like to hear from the decision makers.

There is a political element to COVID. We have no test board here. We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared. I did not see an obvious reason for it to be pulled, though one person complained about the mere presence of the thread. Did I miss an implosion last night?

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.
You are clearly on a need to know basis. And right now, you don't need to know.
 
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I'm not a big fan of any discussions on COVID on this board. For whatever reason, such threads usually devolve into a mess (mostly from politics and sometimes from non-scientific claims). I haven't automatically deleted most of them simply based on the Subject line, but most end up being deleted due to what is posted within them.

There is a political element to COVID

That's incorrect. COVID could care less about anyone's politics. People bring politics into COVID discussions.

We have no test board here

Thankfully. I was not included in any discussion of whether or not to include a Test Board on the site, but if I had been consulted, I would have advised against including one on this site.

We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared.

I have no idea whether or not the thread was intended to be a political debate. However, that's what happened in the thread -- far more than "to some extent." As such, the thread was deleted.

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.

I think I pretty much spelled out my thoughts on the subject at the beginning of my reply. I'm not a fan of COVID threads, because of what they become. I did maintain on the old board, for over a year, a COVID thread that pretty much stuck to science. And even in that thread I often had to remove political rants or non-scientific opinions, claims, etc.
 

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I'm not a big fan of any discussions on COVID on this board. For whatever reason, such threads usually devolve into a mess (mostly from politics and sometimes from non-scientific claims). I haven't automatically deleted most of them simply based on the Subject line, but most end up being deleted due to what is posted within them.



That's incorrect. COVID could care less about anyone's politics. People bring politics into COVID discussions.



Thankfully. I was not included in any discussion of whether or not to include a Test Board on the site, but if I had been consulted, I would have advised against including one on this site.



I have no idea whether or not the thread was intended to be a political debate. However, that's what happened in the thread -- far more than "to some extent." As such, the thread was deleted.



I think I pretty much spelled out my thoughts on the subject at the beginning of my reply. I'm not a fan of COVID threads, because of what they become. I did maintain on the old board, for over a year, a COVID thread that pretty much stuck to science. And even in that thread I often had to remove political rants or non-scientific opinions, claims, etc.

Thanks, Tom. Understood. I had not intended for a political debate yesterday. Policy, not politics. Sorry the focus turned political. Not so surprising, I guess.

As for COVID and politics, I see your point. It is a virus and should be a scientific topic. The reality, however, is that it has become political. People from varying walks of life are involved, and various motivations, political included, have clearly influenced how we as a society have or have not dealt with the virus. That said, we don’t need to deal with it here.

I’m out. Feel free to lock or remove this thread.

Thanks again.
 

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Thanks, Tom. Understood. I had not intended for a political debate yesterday. Policy, not politics. Sorry the focus turned political. Not so surprising, I guess.

As for COVID and politics, I see your point. It is a virus and should be a scientific topic. The reality, however, is that it has become political. People from varying walks of life are involved, and various motivations, political included, have clearly influenced how we as a society have or have not dealt with the virus. That said, we don’t need to deal with it here.

I’m out. Feel free to lock or remove this thread.

Thanks again.
"The reality, however, is that it has become political."

You are wrong. The reality is - it was made into something political.

Carry on.
 

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Thanks, Tom. Understood. I had not intended for a political debate yesterday. Policy, not politics. Sorry the focus turned political. Not so surprising, I guess.

As for COVID and politics, I see your point. It is a virus and should be a scientific topic. The reality, however, is that it has become political. People from varying walks of life are involved, and various motivations, political included, have clearly influenced how we as a society have or have not dealt with the virus. That said, we don’t need to deal with it here.

I’m out. Feel free to lock or remove this thread.

Thanks again.
Your efforts would be better served going out and getting us a new DC! Preferably one who can keep opponents under 14 points a game...now, get on it!
 
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I am seeking input from the powers that be, not folks who are objectionable or who might find COVID threads objectionable. You might be inclined to report a thread, but you don’t pull the plug. I’d like to hear from the decision makers.

There is a political element to COVID. We have no test board here. We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared. I did not see an obvious reason for it to be pulled, though one person complained about the mere presence of the thread. Did I miss an implosion last night?

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.
Don't turn this board into a haven for sewer rats.
 
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I am seeking input from the powers that be, not folks who are objectionable or who might find COVID threads objectionable. You might be inclined to report a thread, but you don’t pull the plug. I’d like to hear from the decision makers.

There is a political element to COVID. We have no test board here. We had a de blasio NYC vaccine mandate thread here yesterday. It was not intended to be a political debate, though that happened to some extent. The thread disappeared. I did not see an obvious reason for it to be pulled, though one person complained about the mere presence of the thread. Did I miss an implosion last night?

So, what is the policy on COVID threads? No COVID threads? Stick to the science, ignore policy? Let’s hear it officially from the mods.
Nothing Offer GIF
 

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I got vaccinated before first grade, for the past 30 years I revieve a flu shot, and this year I also revieve thre covid shots. I am still alive and attended the games at Beaver Stadium. Prior to the covid vacciation about 10 of the senior fellow in my golf and bwling leagues did not survive to get the full range of covid shots. The proof is in the living asto the vitality of the covid vaccination.
 

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Threads on this topic start off all scientific but they quickly turn political - and much of the “science” cited in posts is often twisted to suit a political agenda anyway.
And thank God no ”test” board.
 

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I'm not a big fan of any discussions on COVID on this board. For whatever reason, such threads usually devolve into a mess (mostly from politics and sometimes from non-scientific claims). I haven't automatically deleted most of them simply based on the Subject line, but most end up being deleted due to what is posted within them.



That's incorrect. COVID could care less about anyone's politics. People bring politics into COVID discussions.



Thankfully. I was not included in any discussion of whether or not to include a Test Board on the site, but if I had been consulted, I would have advised against including one on this site.



I have no idea whether or not the thread was intended to be a political debate. However, that's what happened in the thread -- far more than "to some extent." As such, the thread was deleted.



I think I pretty much spelled out my thoughts on the subject at the beginning of my reply. I'm not a fan of COVID threads, because of what they become. I did maintain on the old board, for over a year, a COVID thread that pretty much stuck to science. And even in that thread I often had to remove political rants or non-scientific opinions, claims, etc.
Well, since the topic has come up, my sources tell me that Diane Lane DOES NOT have COVID. I hope we can all agree that is good news.

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Here's what I have on Covid discussions. My wife had to go to the ER twice this week at two different hospitals in NEPA with issues unrelated to Covid. On Saturday, we waited 4 hrs in the ER waiting room before being seen and on Monday it was 6 1/2 hours before she was seen by a doc only to be told they couldn't do the test she needed and "come back tomorrow". The hospitals are insane right now and all who work there really need to be commended.
 
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Here's what I have on Covid discussions. My wife had to go to the ER twice this week at two different hospitals in NEPA with issues unrelated to Covid. On Saturday, we waited 4 hrs in the ER waiting room before being seen and on Monday it was 6 1/2 hours before she was seen by a doc only to be told they couldn't do the test she needed and "come back tomorrow". The hospitals are insane right now and all who work there really need to be commended.
We had a similar experience with a family member.
 
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Here's what I have on Covid discussions. My wife had to go to the ER twice this week at two different hospitals in NEPA with issues unrelated to Covid. On Saturday, we waited 4 hrs in the ER waiting room before being seen and on Monday it was 6 1/2 hours before she was seen by a doc only to be told they couldn't do the test she needed and "come back tomorrow". The hospitals are insane right now and all who work there really need to be commended.

Essential workers. Until they're not.
 

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Here's what I have on Covid discussions. My wife had to go to the ER twice this week at two different hospitals in NEPA with issues unrelated to Covid. On Saturday, we waited 4 hrs in the ER waiting room before being seen and on Monday it was 6 1/2 hours before she was seen by a doc only to be told they couldn't do the test she needed and "come back tomorrow". The hospitals are insane right now and all who work there really need to be commended.

In your estimation, why are hospitals so insane they aren’t able to administer a test to your wife?
 

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In your estimation, why are hospitals so insane they aren’t able to administer a test to your wife?
Covid patients.



Long story short and I don't want to get too personal, her PCP told her to go to the ER immediately and not to leave without a stress test. We got there at 11:30 am and by the time she got a bed in the ER hallway at 6:00 the Dr. said the staff that does stress tests are gone home and she'd have to come back the next day.

The reason her PCP told her to go to the ER is because he said if he were to try to schedule it it would be a few weeks or a month.
 
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Covid patients.



Long story short and I don't want to get too personal, her PCP told her to go to the ER immediately and not to leave without a stress test. We got there at 11:30 am and by the time she got a bed in the ER hallway at 6:00 the Dr. said the staff that does stress tests are gone home and she'd have to come back the next day.

The reason her PCP told her to go to the ER is because he said if he were to try to schedule it it would be a few weeks or a month.

From the article:

“Geisinger says it is struggling to keep up with demand for non-COVID-related cases. This has contributed to 15-hour wait room times just to be admitted into the ER.”

😞
 
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From the article:

“Geisinger says it is struggling to keep up with demand for non-COVID-related cases. This has contributed to 15-hour wait room times just to be admitted into the ER.”

😞
Yes and we experienced this part at 2 different hospitals.

"We are starting to practice waiting room medicine, which is something I never imagined that I would see in my career. We are diagnosing perforated bowels, running CAT scans, doing lab work, and any sort of test that we can on patients that are waiting for us in the waiting room."
 
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