Wouldn’t be the first time. Of the two of us, I’m not the cheapskate. Deflect all you want. Your initial post was wrong and you refuse to admit while going out of your way to defend it when a simple admission that you used the wrong words would be much easier.
Guilt tipping
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Exactly!
Rest assured that Gen Z is not working their *** off and going home with sub par pay.
If that's the case, they're not showing up the next day.
Not against tipping at all but it's not the customers responsibility to insure that restaurant servers go home with satisfactory pay.
That falls on the owners.
Since I started this conversation I guess I should chime in as well.
When we go to a sit down restaurant and the service is good, we tip about 20%. If the service is excellent, then we'll tip higher. If someone brings out my curbside food order to me, we tip but not as much as when we go in to sit down and get served. We tip the woman that cuts our hair, about 20%. If I was staying at a hotel, I'd tip the person that cleans the room.
I do not tip when I walk in to order/pickup my food order to go, or at a fast food drive through.
When we go to a sit down restaurant and the service is good, we tip about 20%. If the service is excellent, then we'll tip higher. If someone brings out my curbside food order to me, we tip but not as much as when we go in to sit down and get served. We tip the woman that cuts our hair, about 20%. If I was staying at a hotel, I'd tip the person that cleans the room.
I do not tip when I walk in to order/pickup my food order to go, or at a fast food drive through.
I ain’t tipping a motherfuqer for puttin food in a sack for me when I walk in to get it. I’ll give em a firm head nod in appreciation and that’s worth enough.
Tipping has gotten completely out of control. It used to be a standard growing up of 10-15% and it was actually based on quality service where servers put forth the effort to do this. Now it's 20, 25 and even 30% with a sense of entitlement. I've been to so many places where servers just half *** it and expect 20% and higher tip.
Things I don't tip that seem to be a norm now:
- If I'm ordering from a counter, standing up which is typically fast food. They already make a standard wage anyway.
- If I'm picking up a to go order. I was a server in college and after and really never understood why anyone would do this.
The level of effort of simply putting food in a back with plastic forks is minimal. Depending on the place, the back of the
house is doing most of this anyway by an expediter or someone else.
- If I'm driving to pick up a pizza instead of delivery, I'm not tipping the person at the counter. I went to pick up a pizza one
day and paying for it. The guy goes "it will ask for a tip, you don't have to", I'm thinking, he gets it. The proceeds to say "But it's appreciated" with a smile. I'm thinking, I'm the one that drove here, I should get the tip.
- There's probably many other tip scenarios I'm missing, because everyone in anything close to a service industry expects one now.
Things I do tip:
- Standard dinner service with a server waiting the table, tip 15-20%
- The person that cuts my hair because it's hard to find someone good, oddly enough.
- My dog sitter because it's really hard to find a good one and we don't use them that much anyway.
- If someone truly does something above and beyond that I appreciate, I will tip. Which is what a tip is designed.
One thing I've noticed as well. How and why has percentage based tipping become the way we tip. A $30 steak will get more tip than a $12 cheeseburger, however the level of effort for a server is the same. It should honestly be time based, but that would never happen.
If you really want to see over the top anti-tippers, there is a sub reddit r/endtipping, they are WAY over the top.
Things I don't tip that seem to be a norm now:
- If I'm ordering from a counter, standing up which is typically fast food. They already make a standard wage anyway.
- If I'm picking up a to go order. I was a server in college and after and really never understood why anyone would do this.
The level of effort of simply putting food in a back with plastic forks is minimal. Depending on the place, the back of the
house is doing most of this anyway by an expediter or someone else.
- If I'm driving to pick up a pizza instead of delivery, I'm not tipping the person at the counter. I went to pick up a pizza one
day and paying for it. The guy goes "it will ask for a tip, you don't have to", I'm thinking, he gets it. The proceeds to say "But it's appreciated" with a smile. I'm thinking, I'm the one that drove here, I should get the tip.
- There's probably many other tip scenarios I'm missing, because everyone in anything close to a service industry expects one now.
Things I do tip:
- Standard dinner service with a server waiting the table, tip 15-20%
- The person that cuts my hair because it's hard to find someone good, oddly enough.
- My dog sitter because it's really hard to find a good one and we don't use them that much anyway.
- If someone truly does something above and beyond that I appreciate, I will tip. Which is what a tip is designed.
One thing I've noticed as well. How and why has percentage based tipping become the way we tip. A $30 steak will get more tip than a $12 cheeseburger, however the level of effort for a server is the same. It should honestly be time based, but that would never happen.
If you really want to see over the top anti-tippers, there is a sub reddit r/endtipping, they are WAY over the top.
Tip based on SERVICE, not to supplement an employers terrible pay plan for his staff. I do custom tip 100% of the time. If good / great service, 20-25 %, mediocre/bad, 10%. Do not show up to work with a attitude and not give a damn, and expect me to reward you just because. If you know your pay largely depends on tips, act like you give a damn, if not, I sure won't.
Servers
Bartender
Barber
Pizza delivery (I don't do Uber or food delivery services)
Will throw the Sonic girl a couple $$s for friendly service, but if she has an attitude, nathan.
Servers
Bartender
Barber
Pizza delivery (I don't do Uber or food delivery services)
Will throw the Sonic girl a couple $$s for friendly service, but if she has an attitude, nathan.
Should we be tipping our scholarship athletes? If you think it's bad in restaurants, it's 100% of college sports business model is donations or "tips" if you will.
I don't eat out I mean restaurants. I really don't have a lot of things to tip for. If I do, it's 10 or 15 percent. I mean, if I could slip you a quarter ounce of good Colombian yeah I would.
Thought of this thread in the Gold Star drive thru today.
For those of you saying you should tip to go orders, isn't that pretty much the same as a drive thru order?
Someone put the foot in a sack and handed it to you on the counter, or in the drive thru.
Why should you tip the counter and not the drive thru?
For those of you saying you should tip to go orders, isn't that pretty much the same as a drive thru order?
Someone put the foot in a sack and handed it to you on the counter, or in the drive thru.
Why should you tip the counter and not the drive thru?
I think I made $50 in tips the entire summer bagging groceries and taking them out to their car in 1998. That service barely exists anymore
Yea and they get a great tip no matter how they performed.
You are missing the point.
For those of you saying you should tip to go/pick up orders.
Isn't that pretty much the same as tipping drive thru orders?
@Catman100 I wasn’t trying to be a smart aleck with that question. It was an honest question. Above is why I see it differently.
What is the Paddocks views on buffet tipping?
I tip but always tip less then a standard restaurant. All they do is fill my drink once and maybe one refill.
I dont tip at a buffet (Cicis pizza that I have to go to for the kid for example) that I do everything myself like getting the drink and now even putting my dirty dishes somewhere they provide.
I will tip like 2 bucks if I order a custom pizza for them to bring to table. But that's it.
I tip but always tip less then a standard restaurant. All they do is fill my drink once and maybe one refill.
I dont tip at a buffet (Cicis pizza that I have to go to for the kid for example) that I do everything myself like getting the drink and now even putting my dirty dishes somewhere they provide.
I will tip like 2 bucks if I order a custom pizza for them to bring to table. But that's it.
Only people I tip are waiters/waitresses. I don't pay for any other services that have historically involved tipping - I don't do delivery, I cut my own hair, I don't use Uber or anything like that, etc.
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If they bring beverages/refills and clear my empty plates/the table, I tip like I would at a "regular" restaurant. For the Cici's example, I wouldn't tip for that.
You people that don't tip 10% on online carryout orders have more faith in your fellow man than I do. I think they will do a lot more than spit in your food these days.
If I’m ordering online for carry out, I choose the “pay at store” option. By the time I pick it up, it’s all ready to go and they don’t have time to mess with it.
If your ordering instructions just go ahead and tell em to rub a sandwich on their cock or put a booger in your tater salad then that takes the power away from em.
20% when I dine in, no matter what. If it's bad, I smile anyway but say F this place under my breath and never go back. 2 bucks if I pick a pizza up.