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TarHeelEer

Freshman
Dec 15, 2002
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I skimmed it. I don't see anything all that I'm against, except for all of the $ I see throughout it. How much does this thing cost, and how much more will it raise inflation?

"(b) SENATE PAYGO SCORECARDS.—The budgetary 25 effects of each division of this Act shall not be entered 80 OLL22583 HSF Discussion Draft S.L.C. 1 on any PAYGO scorecard maintained for purposes of sec2 tion 4106 of H. Con. Res. 71 (115th Congress)."

 
ParrotheadEER

ParrotheadEER

Sophomore
May 29, 2001
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For me, it is a fail. The biggest for me, is the red flag laws. I am glad it has some repercussions for claiming without basis, but the person still has to pay for his own defense/burden to prove he is not "unsafe". They still take his property, hence law abiding citizens can get there guns taken from them which is against any interpretation of the constitution and especially the 2nd amendment. Also, how many haters of the 2nd amendment people are in the psychology/psychiatrist? I almost guarantee you it is by far more than more conservative folks. I doubt they would have any issues with taking guns away from regular folks/veterans. It is just a bad law when you take rights away from folks. If folks have a history of even on line "outright" threats, like the FBI has allowed a few folks "slip" through this net, to commit mass homicide...one with a vehicle in WI. We have enough laws on the books...but most are already breaking the laws of at minimum gun free zones. Go figure, someone wanting to do harm, ignoring laws.
 
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DvlDog4WVU

All-Conference
Feb 2, 2008
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ParrotheadEER said:
For me, it is a fail. The biggest for me, is the red flag laws. I am glad it has some repercussions for claiming without basis, but the person still has to pay for his own defense/burden to prove he is not "unsafe". They still take his property, hence law abiding citizens can get there guns taken from them which is against any interpretation of the constitution and especially the 2nd amendment. Also, how many haters of the 2nd amendment people are in the psychology/psychiatrist? I almost guarantee you it is by far more than more conservative folks. I doubt they would have any issues with taking guns away from regular folks/veterans. It is just a bad law when you take rights away from folks. If folks have a history of even on line "outright" threats, like the FBI has allowed a few folks "slip" through this net, to commit mass homicide...one with a vehicle in WI. We have enough laws on the books...but most are already breaking the laws of at minimum gun free zones. Go figure, someone wanting to do harm, ignoring laws.
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Does it have red flag laws in it?
 
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Shirley Knott

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It isn't the law abiding citizens doing these horrendous events. Our law keepers need to do a better job of detecting the bad elements of our population...
 
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roadtrasheer

All-Conference
Sep 9, 2016
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Shirley Knott said:
It isn't the law abiding citizens doing these horrendous events. Our law keepers need to do a better job of detecting the bad elements of our population...
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Here is a novel idea on criminal control...enforce the laws that already exist. Arrest Hunter Biden for lying to the FBI.
 
ParrotheadEER

ParrotheadEER

Sophomore
May 29, 2001
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Shirley Knott said:
It isn't the law abiding citizens doing these horrendous events. Our law keepers need to do a better job of detecting the bad elements of our population...
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I know. I never said WE did. It does need to catch these people before they go off...and as I mentioned we keep seeing stories where the FBI had them under investigation then basically do nothing...and then bad **** happened. We need to instill the true VALUE of life. Not be afraid to take a life of someone who showed they do not value life.
 
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30CAT

All-American
May 29, 2001
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I disagree with the 21 or over rule. If an 18-year-old is old enough to use real weapons of war to protect our country (not the imaginary ones leftists created), then he or she is old enough to purchase a firearm to protect themselves.

Leave our Constitution alone and go after the criminals, not law-abiding citizens. Also, once the laws we have in place are enforced and we still have issues, then maybe there is something to debate. Until then, if we can't even enforce the laws we have already, how the hell are more laws going to work?

Those who hate our Constitution and America can GTFO, as far as I'm concerned.
 
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cam_blev

Senior
Oct 7, 2005
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Shirley Knott said:
It isn't the law abiding citizens doing these horrendous events. Our law keepers need to do a better job of detecting the bad elements of our population...
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this sounds like surveillance and spying on its own citizens. They already do that. They know most of the shooters before the shootings happen.
The Patriot Act was one of the worst things to ever happen to this country.
 
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moe

Junior
May 29, 2001
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