I think we can take a look around the Country and figure out that it's not the coaching that has held us back. We ran Neal Brown out of town, he narrowly missed a major, major upset against Clemson. We got rid of Dawson, he came back to beat us and last I saw his Southern Miss team was up 49-0 at the half tonight. If we do not have a group of guys who are not all on the same page, then we will never win. The game is won or lost on the field. Eddie Gran averaged 585 yards/game last season. Has he already forgotten how to coach after 2 games? Stoops came from Florida St. I think they won a few games there as well. These first 2 games? as brutal an opening as we have ever seen. Lets right this ship, get a cpl of wins under our belt and smooth this thing out. But it will have to be done by the guys on the field. With that sorry effort today from roughly 20 of the 35 or so players that saw the field today, Vince Lombardi wouldnt have been in the game.
Guys, its not the coaching thats the problem
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It absolutely is coaching. The culture, the discipline which this team has none of. The most important aspect of coaching, player development, name one player that has gotten better in the last 4 years. We have terrible clock management, terrible in game adjustments etc. thats ALL coaching. And it starts at the top.....
Sometimes I wonder if some of our football posters aren't UL fans trolling...
Well if it ain't coaching let's fire Stoops and hire a high school coach for $20k save the University a lot of money.
Just because Stoops was successful defensive coordinator doesn't translate to head coach where you are the decision maker
Who recruits and coaches the guys on the field?
So you're telling me the players are the reason we lost to Southern Miss? I'm trying to remember the last time Southern Miss out-recruited us, I'm having a little trouble. Didn't we have like a 80-pound advantage per player with our offensive line vs. their d-line. Maybe I'm crazy. Heck, I think our d-line was even bigger than their o-line. Our secondary was more talented than their wide receivers. I could go on and on. Our QB was a four star, theirs was a two star. But you're right, it's all players. Nothing to do with player development, coaching schemes, game planning or in-game adjustments.
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This team has talent. We saw it in the first half against Southern Miss. The talent is disproportionate and concentrated in the WR and DB department, but there is still talent.
Coaching has been subpar.
Coaching has been subpar.
Quit reading at the title.
It's always the coach thats the problem good god are UK football fans this battered?
It's always the coach thats the problem good god are UK football fans this battered?
Not a Tard, you can bank on that. The problem we have is the problem we have always had. We have zero speed on defense. I find it hard to believe that you guys are blaming the coaching. You telling me Eddie Gran doesnt know how to coach? Hinshaw doesnt know how to coach a quarterback? I am not buying it. Where did we find such a team full of quitters? we have 2 or 3 guys who play and the rest pout
This is 100% on the head coach. It is his job to motivate and prepare the players. If they are unwilling to perform for him, then he has lost control of them. This is why every guy who does a good job as a coordinator doesn't automatically do well as a head coach. Stoops seems like one of those "nice guys" who prefers to be a buddy figure around the players as opposed to being a tough taskmaster that doesn't mind turning into a red-*** SOB when the situation requires. A coordinator can get by being a nice guy so long as he has a tough head coach to keep the team in line. But when the nice guy happens to be the HC, the inmates end up running the asylum and we get what we are seeing right now. Stoops simply isn't head coaching material.
This might be the dumbest post of the year!!
I guess I see it differently. I see alot of missed tackles, missed blocks, several by the wide receivers today, lack of execution. Just like last week, we give up a cheap touchdown before half, Barker fumbles twice in second half, guys not doing their jobs. Whats a coach supposed to do? run out there and make the tackle?
Or teach your players how to tackle during practice. I've never seen so many missed tackles in my life. Its like they've only played flag football up until this year.
The Head coach is the one that HAS to inspire his team to give maximum effort and put them in the very best offensive and defensive schemes to have success.
Mark Stoops and his staff have failed miserably to do these 2 in the 1st 2 games. Players are reliant on their coaches for the confidence to compete, especially in the SEC.
Mark Stoops and his staff have failed miserably to do these 2 in the 1st 2 games. Players are reliant on their coaches for the confidence to compete, especially in the SEC.
Dumbest take ever...we are getting better players than most schools outside the SEC, and lose to these schools straight up, and get beat by other SEC schools worse than most. . It's 100000000% the coaching, period.
Stoops can take his and lose to yours and take yours and lose to his.
It's 100% on the coaches. We look completely inept in every facet of the game and that's a direct indictment on the coaching.
I thought the coach would teach them how to tackle and block.
Their HS or Jr HS coach.......................................................................
All I can figure out in this thread is that: ck-2 has better weed than SmokingGun9. Hook me up.
I understand what you're saying, but what you're failing to realize is that IT IS THE COACH'S RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THE PLAYERS MOTIVATED. If we were playing hard and just purely getting out-talented I could live with that, but when the players are giving up (in their words, not mine) THAT IS ON THE COACHES.
I didn't expect us to beat Florida, but to get ABSOLUTELY EMBARRASSED by an UNRANKED Florida team ON NATIONAL TELEVISION is inexcusable. I'm so sick and tired of Mitch Barnhart and Stoops and their spin jobs that they sell to our less informed fans...then I have to sit here and live in Louisville and drive by that dump of a stadium every single day and think about what could've been if we had an AD that was half a man.
Our fanbase has suffered and suffered and suffered and they have done like my parents and instead of going on vacations they spend their hard earned money on season tickets. They don't have the money but they do it anyway, and then they have an AD that doesn't give everything he has to put the best product on the field. Bobby Petrino was begging to come here, begging, and Mormon Mitch didn't even have the courtesy of giving the guy an interview. Think about that for a second. A school like Kentucky not giving a proven winner an interview. That would be like Auburn basketball not giving Bruce Pearl an interview. Heck, it would be worse than that. At least Pearl has some NCAA violations to his name, the only thing Petrino did was be a scumbag of a human being, which NEWSFLASH, 90% of the coaches in college football are.
The football gods were finally smiling at us and they laid a gift on our doorstep, but Mormon Mitch in his infinite wisdom turned it down without thinking twice. I guess it serves us right for allowing this guy to remain AD for this long. If we had any guts or sense about us at all we would've told him to take a hike after he hired Joker and Gillispie but instead this is what we're stuck with for being such a spineless group, so we might as well sit back and take our beating like men because no one is actually going to do anything about Barnhart and he's here through 2022 at the very least.
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Take this from a coach, albeit a lower level..... I really want to do this respectfully.
THATS COACHING YOU TWIT!!! WATCH AN ALABAMA FOOTBALL GAME AND SEE HOW ITS DONE.
He's probably a nice guy but he has no idea what coaching is. Hard to believe someone could be that clueless but there it is.
The problem IS coaching. Just because you have the last name Stoops doesn't mean you should be hired as a head coach when you have never been a head coach.
Maybe Stoops is a great assistant, not head coach. BUT coaching IS the problem!
Maybe Stoops is a great assistant, not head coach. BUT coaching IS the problem!
Some stuff I got from the medical place is called "strawberry kush". Is "Sarcasm" anything like that?
Understand- we did not run Brown out of town. He was promoted, if you will, though not by us. He was offered a head coaching job, and, although Stoops would have loved for him to turn it down, Brown took the job, which most coaches in position would have done.
I've seen UK teams full of 2 stars play better. Bottom line is the talent is not the problem. Maybe it's coaching, maybe it's attitude. Both point in the direction of the head coach.
Agree with your point about a team full of quitters.
But, I gotta ask, were these players quitters in high school?
Were they quitters when we recruited them? If so, why did we recruit them?
Or have they learned to be quitters from a clueless head coach and a wimp AD?
One only has to consider the suspension of Dorian Baker after a so called "targeting" block when he was a freshman to answer these questions. Throw in abandoning Tubman when a grand jury determined there was not enough evidence to indict him, if you need another example. When your head coach and AD refuse to stand up for you as a player, it makes it a bit difficult to play your heart out to the last minute.
He's definitely smoking the stickiest of the ickiest. Pass it around. We need it after tonight. Let Stoops hit the peace pipe while you're at it. Maybe it'll help his creativity.
Trevor Matich on espn radio yesterday morning: "More games are lost in football than are won." First guy I IMMEDIATELY thought of when he said that was our fearless leader, Mark Stoops