I understand what you're saying, but I don't think a government institution can expel a student for signing a racist song off campus. There is that little thing called the first amendment.
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Dak Prescott. Wow. Got messed up pretty good.
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Parker's behavior may be reprehensible, but if you apply that same relative behavioral bar to the entire campus, you'd hardly have any students left. Maybe the foreign exchange students and a small percentage of the bible beating groups. That's about it. Disgusting behavior? Yeah, but so is every act of fighting, random sexual encounter, drug usage, vulgar sexual discussion....
...if OU *really* felt so strongly about this thing, they'd have done something about it long ago. Instead, some bozo's shtick went viral, they got caught with their pants down, and they overreacted by expelling him. Not a fan.
...if OU *really* felt so strongly about this thing, they'd have done something about it long ago. Instead, some bozo's shtick went viral, they got caught with their pants down, and they overreacted by expelling him. Not a fan.
Speaking of thugs, here is a video of everyone's favorite rap producer/murderer Suge Knight and his latest murder victim that he ran over.
It's fairly graphic.
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Unbelievable...
It's fairly graphic.
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Unbelievable...
Yeah, I don't really think the First Amendment applies here. Maybe, but whatever. He's not going to jail. He's getting kicked out of school. For singing about lynching black people and dropping N-bombs.
Besides, that's not really a hill worth dying on Dougan.
No one is going to stick up for that little ****'s rights to hate speech. If his family has any sense, they'll yank him out of there and keep him out of public for a few years til people largely forget about all this.
If a school can throw you out for copy-pasting from wikipedia, I'd say a viral video of hate speech is fair game. Code of conduct violations give them a wide range of things to toss you out for if and when they choose, basically with or without precedent.
Playing devil's advocate here: What happens when someone like Mashburned goes around singing rap song lyrics about shooting cops? Is there that much difference? Where do you draw the line?
Also, this should be in the polititard thread. On a positive note, maybe it will piss off WCC for being in here instead of there.
Also, this should be in the polititard thread. On a positive note, maybe it will piss off WCC for being in here instead of there.
Cheating and other non-speech related code of conduct violations are different than free speech. But as for policies put in place by state universities that restrict speech, they don't often hold up in court when challenged. However, the ACLU isn't even backing this guy. I think they want him gone too.
OK, well good luck going to Oklahoma and challenging the school on this one.
Actually this is EXACTLY the type of stupid **** I thought the ACLU was supposed to run and "protect". Buncha hypocrites.
Actually this is EXACTLY the type of stupid **** I thought the ACLU was supposed to run and "protect". Buncha hypocrites.
Get a job working for the state road department and go on a facebook rant about Jews.
This whole "it's a public/state/government entity and so I have free speech and can't get in trouble for what I say" isn't how things work. That isn't what free speech is. A school is a government building, but it isn't infringing on your second amendment rights to not be allowed to walk into one carrying a gun.
Fair enough, although there are quite a few differences. I assume he'll drop out and it won't matter.
All that said, what if Parker Rice just waltzes into his 9:30 AM tomorrow like nothing happened? If stopped by the media, just give a "whoa, sorry, I was really effed up that night. Don't even remember it, honestly". I think that's the way you gotta play it.
Modern day Branch Rickeys, I tell ya. I'm skeptical though. Something tells me SAE and richie were looking to upgrade their intramural bball rosters. I've seen richie play. I'm sure his frat needed wing help.
Lol no
Learn media. If he came out and played it just the way his national chapter did - "omg I'm so appalled. I'm expelling myself. I need a lesson. This has never happened before. I'm so sorry. Hopefully I can rehab myself and make it back to the university I betrayed one day" then he would almost be loved by the media. He either goes away to a quiet place, or does that and tries to get on Oprah.
Actually, that's brilliant. Racist rehab. That would be huge. I can hear the stories on GMA now...
Learn media. If he came out and played it just the way his national chapter did - "omg I'm so appalled. I'm expelling myself. I need a lesson. This has never happened before. I'm so sorry. Hopefully I can rehab myself and make it back to the university I betrayed one day" then he would almost be loved by the media. He either goes away to a quiet place, or does that and tries to get on Oprah.
Actually, that's brilliant. Racist rehab. That would be huge. I can hear the stories on GMA now...
Yup, just breeze through the media and say... " Hey, guys, sorry but not sorry. Was totally FUBAR last night. Hey, gotta go now."
That'll certainly do the trick from a pr standpoint. Outstanding gameplan.
That'll certainly do the trick from a pr standpoint. Outstanding gameplan.
If Parker Rice were an athlete, he'd be fine. See Riley Cooper.
"I will fight every Ni**er here!!!"
But he's 6'4" and can catch footballs. And plays with mostly black guys. 100 catches the past 2 seasons.
"I will fight every Ni**er here!!!"
But he's 6'4" and can catch footballs. And plays with mostly black guys. 100 catches the past 2 seasons.
-Yeah, quick apology should do the trick. Great call.
-I'm sure we all did some **** that if we got probably would've resulted in expulsion or damn near it. If you get caught that's on you. Hiding behind amendments is a ***** move. If you're big enough to sing songs about hanging black people you're big enough to face the repercussions. Also, when you go all deep south racist songs and you're tied to a University or Fraternity... yeah the reaction is going to be magnified.
-Moving on.
-Dak Prescott got F*CKED UP. Damn. If his crew got beat down I wonder how big/many guys it took.
-Manhattan vs Iona. That was a fun *** game.
-Conf Tourney's begin tonight
-Nerves are really kicking in. Every small issue with our team feels like a monumental flaw. Every other competitor seems to have righted the ship and have answers for all our advantages. Talking heads are right, someone is going to nip us. No wait, we're head and shoulders above the rest... Grrrrr. Shut up, head. Couldn't sleep last night thinking about it.
-Don't even care it's going to rain in Nashville. Hope it's all washed out by Saturday morning.
-"Hey man them ain't high heel sneakers... and they sure don't look like cowboy boots..."
-I'm sure we all did some **** that if we got probably would've resulted in expulsion or damn near it. If you get caught that's on you. Hiding behind amendments is a ***** move. If you're big enough to sing songs about hanging black people you're big enough to face the repercussions. Also, when you go all deep south racist songs and you're tied to a University or Fraternity... yeah the reaction is going to be magnified.
-Moving on.
-Dak Prescott got F*CKED UP. Damn. If his crew got beat down I wonder how big/many guys it took.
-Manhattan vs Iona. That was a fun *** game.
-Conf Tourney's begin tonight
-Nerves are really kicking in. Every small issue with our team feels like a monumental flaw. Every other competitor seems to have righted the ship and have answers for all our advantages. Talking heads are right, someone is going to nip us. No wait, we're head and shoulders above the rest... Grrrrr. Shut up, head. Couldn't sleep last night thinking about it.
-Don't even care it's going to rain in Nashville. Hope it's all washed out by Saturday morning.
-"Hey man them ain't high heel sneakers... and they sure don't look like cowboy boots..."
how many frat pukes have tight aceholes this week sitting around hoping & praying their racist songs/chants werent video'ed and just sitting around waiting to be uploaded to YouTube. or hell, guess sports teams wouldnt be immune to this, wasnt there some group that dressed up like the KKK recently as a gag?
there was a great article a couple weeks ago about the modern phenomenon of people who do stupid stuff on social media and have their lives instantly ruined. centered on the little sloot who tweeted on her airplane flight to Africa that she hoped to not contract AIDS.
got mixed feelings about all this. being pointed out for being an idiot and shamed is one thing. being expelled, losing jobs, just for words you said or typed? who decides what punishment is enough? who steps in if the revenge is getting to be too much?
there was a great article a couple weeks ago about the modern phenomenon of people who do stupid stuff on social media and have their lives instantly ruined. centered on the little sloot who tweeted on her airplane flight to Africa that she hoped to not contract AIDS.
got mixed feelings about all this. being pointed out for being an idiot and shamed is one thing. being expelled, losing jobs, just for words you said or typed? who decides what punishment is enough? who steps in if the revenge is getting to be too much?
Considering that a university is supposed to be a place to grow intellectually and indulging your racism is the absolute bottom of behavior intellectually, seems appropriate to kick him out. I hear what some of you are saying though, it's getting to the point where it's hard to be a piece of **** in society and still rise to the top socially and financially. Puttin' the porch lights on for Parker tonight. Poor little piece of ****.
- Those would all be called as goal tending. Don't think our guys should be celebrating that, hurts the team IMO. HOF finalist CJC better get Willie and Karl back to focused on the name on the FRONT of the jersey and not the antics on the BACK of the jersey.
- That kid getting expelled is only because he didn't withdraw from school fast enough. No way he was going to stay in Norman anyway.
- That kid getting expelled is only because he didn't withdraw from school fast enough. No way he was going to stay in Norman anyway.
One of the most awesome "blocked shots" I ever saw was Shawn Kemp vs. the Soviet Junior Team at Memorial Coliseum. Kemp had something like 25/15/10...RIDIC numbers. Anyway, he was about to come out of the game to thunderous applause from the Faithful, and one of the Soviet players shot a 3. Right before the ball was about to go into the basket, Kemp jumped up and swatted the ball into the 5th row (might have been 10th). He then strutted off the court, mean mugging, hopping, high fiving. Total goaltend. Total BADASS. Pretty much the greatest thing I ever saw.
/richieitmayhavehappenedlikethisornotbutwasstillawesome
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/richieitmayhavehappenedlikethisornotbutwasstillawesome
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* I'm not defending Parker Lewis in any way, but nearly every one of you is being a hypocrite if you truly think this is expulsion-worthy, and you're either burying your head in the sand or completely forgetting/ignoring the time you spent in high school/college if you truly think you haven't committed dozens, or HUNDREDS of just as "unspeakable" of acts as this one. Typical sensationalized media/viral nonsense. Not defending what he did, again, it just truly isn't that big of a deal compared to what goes on with thousands of students on that very campus every single day.
If I read this and I'm a UNC fan I'd be ready to kill Roy. Remember how pissed we were when Tubby miss on Wright? Multiply that times 100. That place, man.
Wall:[/B] I went up there my junior year (for a recruiting visit), but they didn't want to offer me. (And then, when they did offer) they wanted me to commit on the spot. I was like, "I don't want to commit on the spot. If you think I'm good enough, offer me." But they didn't. So when we played them, I was so hype.
Wall:[/B] I went up there my junior year (for a recruiting visit), but they didn't want to offer me. (And then, when they did offer) they wanted me to commit on the spot. I was like, "I don't want to commit on the spot. If you think I'm good enough, offer me." But they didn't. So when we played them, I was so hype.
The roster for that USA All-Star team...
Shawn Kemp
Allan Houston
Richie Farmer
Derrick Miller
Chris Mills
Travis Ford
Damon Bailey
Pat Graham
Don MacLean
Pretty much the coolest thing ever for a 15 year old. That's pretty badass.
Shawn Kemp
Allan Houston
Richie Farmer
Derrick Miller
Chris Mills
Travis Ford
Damon Bailey
Pat Graham
Don MacLean
Pretty much the coolest thing ever for a 15 year old. That's pretty badass.
Rack.
And to that point, I'm betting Parker isn't some white supremacist. Take it from a former(?) soft white kid... He's a soft white kid. Mom probably still does his laundry. Dad definitely gives him beer money. I'd bet he's fairly intelligent, actually. He just participated in a folksy white kid rite of passage whose time is long gone and now he's going to pay the price. Pretty much as simple as that as much as America wants to make it out to be an OMFG NEW GENERATION OF HITLERS IS HERE.
It's not really that. He's just a confused soft white kid.
The crazy thing about that is North Carolina was THE program in Wall's junior year, which would have been 2007-08. They were the team that entered the tournament #1 and entered the Final Four with a '93 Kentucky caliber margin of victory in the tournament, and they were getting ready to bring everybody back and win it all. Should have been world domination by them.
You're right, as bad as whiffing on Brandan Wright was, this is so much worse.
That Dak Prescott stuff.....
Unfortunately, this is just typical, macho, 20-something, booze-fueled nonsense. Sounds like Prescott just wants to move on, which is probably best for all parties.
Of course, if someone has a Vine of the episode, it's Tweeted around the blogosphere, and Nancy Grace does an interview on Good Morning America about it, then I surely hope the perpetrators are euthanized and rot in hell. That would be appropriate.
Unfortunately, this is just typical, macho, 20-something, booze-fueled nonsense. Sounds like Prescott just wants to move on, which is probably best for all parties.
Of course, if someone has a Vine of the episode, it's Tweeted around the blogosphere, and Nancy Grace does an interview on Good Morning America about it, then I surely hope the perpetrators are euthanized and rot in hell. That would be appropriate.
As hype as I've ever been for UK Basketball. Hard to believe that was over 5 years ago. Remember it like yesterday.
"JOHN WALL HITS HYPERSPEED!"
Nobody's condoning it, Mashburned. Just giving you the soft white kid perspective on what that was about.
Kid's a complete jackass, just as a lot of us were when we were his age. He's kicked out of school and has a nation angry with him... seems adequate for singing an offensive song. Do you suggest he go to jail?
Kid's a complete jackass, just as a lot of us were when we were his age. He's kicked out of school and has a nation angry with him... seems adequate for singing an offensive song. Do you suggest he go to jail?
They were TSU students. Big difference.
- You must forget that unc fans didn't want that thug and cheater .....
.....after he signed with UK.
- You must forget that unc fans didn't want that thug and cheater .....
.....after he signed with UK.
OU expelled him because having students on campus sing that ******** song makes OU look terrible by association. It's pretty simple.
If a student reported to the University that he saw this happening, but didn't record it, nothing would have happened.
I'm not really commenting on whether that's good or bad, because honestly, I don't give a ****. I'm not getting outraged at every little thing that comes across the wire.
If a student reported to the University that he saw this happening, but didn't record it, nothing would have happened.
I'm not really commenting on whether that's good or bad, because honestly, I don't give a ****. I'm not getting outraged at every little thing that comes across the wire.