Stoops stunt to aTm prolly shook the entire staff. All bets are off.
But the Bears are awful.
But the Bears are awful.
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If he does this to us again after hand picking Devin Leary for a big #. He can f*** off.
What has Coen actually done other than his first year here with Levis/Robinson? He didn’t even call the plays with the Rams. Offense was beyond maddening this past year and about as unoriginal as could be.
Go find someone who is hungry to make his mark as a coordinator in the SEC. Gotta be dozens of coaches across the country who would kill for the opportunity to be an OC in the SEC, making damn near $2mm/year.
If he wants to go work for the Bears, whose HC is basically in a prove it or lose it year, and coach Fields, who is inconsistent at best, then let him go.
Oh by the way, that great offense he had in 2021? Ranked 47th in the country. Def worth $2mm/year. Get the **** outta here.
Go find someone who is hungry to make his mark as a coordinator in the SEC. Gotta be dozens of coaches across the country who would kill for the opportunity to be an OC in the SEC, making damn near $2mm/year.
If he wants to go work for the Bears, whose HC is basically in a prove it or lose it year, and coach Fields, who is inconsistent at best, then let him go.
Oh by the way, that great offense he had in 2021? Ranked 47th in the country. Def worth $2mm/year. Get the **** outta here.
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The gleam of Coen (to us) was that a semi-vertical, pro style attack was a welcome departure from the Terry Wilson, 80% run Eddie Granfest.
My beef with Coen was that every drive had a cheeky, head scratching play call that almost always didn’t work or was under scripted enough where it looked like someone missed an assignment.
With all the coaching turnover, I’m sure there are respected COLLEGE offensive dudes out there ready for a $2m bump.
I guess the allure of working with Caleb Williams and being credited for his evolution is a tempting opportunity… but giant risk, as joining an Eberfluese regime is on thin ice already
My beef with Coen was that every drive had a cheeky, head scratching play call that almost always didn’t work or was under scripted enough where it looked like someone missed an assignment.
With all the coaching turnover, I’m sure there are respected COLLEGE offensive dudes out there ready for a $2m bump.
I guess the allure of working with Caleb Williams and being credited for his evolution is a tempting opportunity… but giant risk, as joining an Eberfluese regime is on thin ice already
Caleb Williams has that Eli Manning vibe to him. If it isn't one of his 4 preferred teams, he's going to try to find a way to not report.
Coen leaving wouldn't be as much of an issue if Rich Scang never happened. Coen, regardless of the warts, is the best OC we've had under Stoops since he was hired. I like what I saw out of the offense this year, Leary just kind of sandbagged everything.
Coen leaving wouldn't be as much of an issue if Rich Scang never happened. Coen, regardless of the warts, is the best OC we've had under Stoops since he was hired. I like what I saw out of the offense this year, Leary just kind of sandbagged everything.
I thought that Coen had provided assurances that he'd be around for more than one year, in exchange for bringing him back. He's going to get a reputation as a poor man's Petrino at this rate.
Blaming Leary is fair, but those WRs dropped a lot of open passes the first half of the season too. A little mix of less drops and better decisions and the feel of the offense last year is different, IMO. That doesn’t mean the playcalling was bad.
I’m not in the know, and I don’t turn on coaches as fast as some, but this doesn’t add up. Coen was clearly one of if not the one that anchored the coaching staff all being back this year.
Now he is interested in the Bears? No chance.
Something smells funny to me with this.
I’m not in the know, and I don’t turn on coaches as fast as some, but this doesn’t add up. Coen was clearly one of if not the one that anchored the coaching staff all being back this year.
Now he is interested in the Bears? No chance.
Something smells funny to me with this.
Here's the draft order:
1) Bears (might need a QB)
2) Redskins (need a QB)
3) Patriots (need a QB)
4) Cardinals
5) Chargers
6) Giants (perhaps need a QB)
7) Titans (would take Caleb over Levis)
8) Falcons (need a QB)
9) Bears again (might need a QB)
10) Jets (maybe need a QB)
If I'm Caleb Williams, I'm PRAYING the Bears take me. They're already a pretty good team, and they'll have a 9th round pick PLUS whatever they get for Fields. But more importantly, the alternative is the Redskins (f that), the Patriots (a mystery with Belichick gone), the Giants (but I don't think they trade up), and maybe the Falcons. But to go to the Falcons or Patriots they are going to have to trade picks, which weakens their team.
But Williams has struck me as an idiot, so I don't see him thinking this through. And it appears he already is burning that bridge.
Just a wild speculation, but perhaps there are some hurt feeling over the Stoops to Texas A&M thing went down. He thought his crew would go with him, and he found out otherwise when he made his pitch.
The business side has made them think twice about Fields. With Caleb they reset the rookie clock and get a more marketable player.
Regardless, my concern is Coen and unless you tell me he came back with the idea Stoops could leave in a year or 2 and maybe he’d become HC which now that seems unlikely with Stoops cementing himself in here I just don’t get it.
Not to say the Kentucky OC shouldn’t think past that position but he was a huge factor in Vandagriff, has Boley long term and by leaving to most likely a lame duck coaching staff you put yourself in a position of Lexington, LA, Lexington, Chicago in a 4 year span. Sure if he takes it he plans to succeed but what does that even mean in Chicago?
If they take Caleb and go 8-8 Eberfluss(?) is fired. Then what? Detroit and Green Bay aren’t getting worse, SF has one of the best young coaches and teams, LA and McVay are bouncing back, Dallas and Philly are both stacked, Seattle is a QB away from being right there in the NFC, and you want to go to that vs what you have?
Interesting strategy, let’s see how this plays out Cotton!?!?!
Regardless, my concern is Coen and unless you tell me he came back with the idea Stoops could leave in a year or 2 and maybe he’d become HC which now that seems unlikely with Stoops cementing himself in here I just don’t get it.
Not to say the Kentucky OC shouldn’t think past that position but he was a huge factor in Vandagriff, has Boley long term and by leaving to most likely a lame duck coaching staff you put yourself in a position of Lexington, LA, Lexington, Chicago in a 4 year span. Sure if he takes it he plans to succeed but what does that even mean in Chicago?
If they take Caleb and go 8-8 Eberfluss(?) is fired. Then what? Detroit and Green Bay aren’t getting worse, SF has one of the best young coaches and teams, LA and McVay are bouncing back, Dallas and Philly are both stacked, Seattle is a QB away from being right there in the NFC, and you want to go to that vs what you have?
Interesting strategy, let’s see how this plays out Cotton!?!?!
When Stoops finally does find a program that wants him besides UK. I hope UK fans keep this nonsense in mind when the Coen vs Sumrall debate rages for our next HC.
The Bears are 1 of 3 NFL teams coaches regard as LEGACY destinations.
Giants and Steelers are the other two.’
Giants and Steelers are the other two.’
Always some reason for Coen, or coaches like him, not to even have a sliver of loyalty after already doing this once.
At some point, it is what it is. But stop acting like the Bears OC position is a coveted position and opportunity he can’t pass up.
We backed out on someone we made promises to because Coen thought he had something better. Sound familiar? Of course, our 1st and much cheaper option was much better than Devin.
Imagine what BVG is thinking right about now? Coen prolly won’t get the job but that’s not the point. The point is the guy breaks a lot of promises and does whatever is best for him without a care in the world for others. That catches up with you in life.
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Blame Stoops. Why should Coordinators show loyalty if your boss (who you are directly tied to) doesn’t.
This is the biggest crock of BS I’ve read in awhile.
There is a better legacy team in their division in Green Bay, and conference in Dallas and that’s not considering San Francisco who is guess is a better legacy team in my life time, which not much before I was born is relevant past Pittsburgh, GB, KC and an undefeated Miami team.
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The Giants are one of 3 legacy destination in the NFL.
Okay! That just about wraps it up for today. Good job! Good effort!
Okay! That just about wraps it up for today. Good job! Good effort!
I don't mean this in a condescending way but what make the Bears a Legacy destination? One Super Bowl win, one other runner up and no titles since the 1940's. The Packers, Redskins, Steelers and Giants have had far more success among the old, old school NFL. I don't follow the NFL like I used to but without looking it up I don't know who coaches the Bears now but I only know three of their coach's off the top of my head and that's Halas, Ditka, and Lovie Smith. Forget any of the coordinators except when Buddy Ryan was DC.
- I yield to the footballs but I’ve always been surprised how highly regarded Coen is around here. Dude can do no wrong around here.
- Re: Williams - I mean if you’re a franchise QB coming into the league, you could do worse than Chicago/Washington/New England- three storied franchises and bigtime markets.
- Vegas has me nervous today - let’s hope Reeves and Dillingham show up.
- I’ve been thinking it for years and it’s finally time to just come out and say it- Jimmy Johns is trash. Unless you like bread/lettuce/mayo sandwiches.
- It’s 2024. I can’t believe we still have gym grunters. Trying to get a quick Saturday workout in and have to deal with a dude sounding like he’s climaxing in the background.
- Re: Williams - I mean if you’re a franchise QB coming into the league, you could do worse than Chicago/Washington/New England- three storied franchises and bigtime markets.
- Vegas has me nervous today - let’s hope Reeves and Dillingham show up.
- I’ve been thinking it for years and it’s finally time to just come out and say it- Jimmy Johns is trash. Unless you like bread/lettuce/mayo sandwiches.
- It’s 2024. I can’t believe we still have gym grunters. Trying to get a quick Saturday workout in and have to deal with a dude sounding like he’s climaxing in the background.
Have you read some of your posts, like most of them?
Bill Cowher said it yesterday…. Take your complaints and theories to him. Had to do with FAMILY owned teams and what coaches think of them. Hallas Mara Rooney.
Who says this? I mean, maybe “they” do, but I’ve never heard this before and I wouldn’t think it applies to a coordinator position. Head coach maybe, I guess.
Not saying you’re wrong I’ve just never heard that.
EDIT: well I guess you answered that…
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not a fan.-Gma’s house breakfast is always no joke. She doesn’t even cook it anymore but my, definition of the “cool uncle”, uncle Bruce cooks up a feast.
Omelettes, bacon, spicy sausage, home fries, ketchup, biscuits and gravy, topped off with fried apples and a piping hot cup of Joe. Heaven.
Jersey Mike's is far superior to JJs.
As a Bear fan, I will say that - despite our one Super Bowl win - Halas was literally a cofounder of the NFL, and we did have 8 NFL “championships” before the merger (I realize I sound like a Helms Cup claimer right now, but it is what it is).
Point being…there definitely is some history there.
Related note, I don’t want them to hire Coen.
Point being…there definitely is some history there.
Related note, I don’t want them to hire Coen.
-coen's rep exceeds his actual performance by a long shot... I hope he stays for continuity sake/hold recruiting/portal class together. And while he's been good at uk... his offenses have been inconsistent/haven't lived up to the hype.
I’m worried today as well wcc. Going to place a small bet on A&M to soften the blow if we lose.
- It’s been a a big talking point for Titans fan since they trade AJ Brown, but him missing last week with the division on the line and now being ruled out against Tampa when it’s apparently the coaches job on the line is exactly the stuff that made the Titans FO at the time hesitant to sign him to 5yr 125M like he wanted.
- It’s been a a big talking point for Titans fan since they trade AJ Brown, but him missing last week with the division on the line and now being ruled out against Tampa when it’s apparently the coaches job on the line is exactly the stuff that made the Titans FO at the time hesitant to sign him to 5yr 125M like he wanted.
Wouldn't be shocked at all if we lose, because conference road games are hard/random as all get out...
...but A&M is averaging like 54 in SEC play, so we got that going for us.
...but A&M is averaging like 54 in SEC play, so we got that going for us.
Ugh. Forgot they let Laphonso Ellis go and Jay Williams is back on GD now.
Remarkable ESPN’s lack of self-awareness with all these Duke Fs. Williams is awful too. Same with Battier and Grant Hill.
Coen is awesome - don’t get the hate. He’s nearly automatic in the red zone and I believe he’s been somewhat handicapped in his game planning/play calling on 1st and 2nd down. I agree he seemed to take a lot of unnecessary shots downfield last year but those worked a lot when he had Levis.
Doubt he leaves but who knows. If I was his age, I wouldn’t be turning down interview opportunities for NFL jobs, doesn’t mean he’s leaving.
If Stoops wants him to stick around stop demanding he run off tackle first and second down every damn series.
Doubt he leaves but who knows. If I was his age, I wouldn’t be turning down interview opportunities for NFL jobs, doesn’t mean he’s leaving.
If Stoops wants him to stick around stop demanding he run off tackle first and second down every damn series.
Jay Williams is maybe the dumbest person to ever go to Duke.
Losers. Why would you eat Jersey Mike's when you can easily hit Katz or Faicco's when you're craving a Sambo?
Who really knows how much autonomy Piglet affords his OCs
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Coaches know the reals. So maybe once shackles are off, you may see some fireworks
?Coaches know the reals. So maybe once shackles are off, you may see some fireworks
It’s the bread, dude. Not even close to any corner guinnea deli. That’s why fast food chains in general don’t THRIVE here like in KY.
Thus, they stink… or even try!
Thus, they stink… or even try!
I had this talk with someone a few weeks ago. He's not like stupid for TV, he's like someone you overhear their conversation in Wal-Mart stupid.
I can't even watch/listen to Jay Williams. I have to change the channel. I would rather listen to Weebey's baby momma talk from season 4 of The Wire.
Can't believe some of you peckerheads are scared of A&M today. Krazy, how about we do a loser leaves town bet on this game. You can have A&M.
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