nice post. also, until the cards are beaten on the field, hard for me to talk stuff about them. cant stand that program. however, they have been getting the job done.
HA! in trying to pump up UL football, Howie demonstrates how weak their schedule always is.
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nice post. also, until the cards are beaten on the field, hard for me to talk stuff about them. cant stand that program. however, they have been getting the job done.
I've been reading the Rivals board for some time. I finally joined when I saw this. I really like Marshall so, here's the scoop. The majority of UofL wins over Marshall came between 1959-1981 (13-1). The majority of Marshall wins over UofL came between 1921-1932 (7-3). While the horrible plane crash occurred in November 1970, UofL beat Marshall in October of that year. The two teams didn't play each other again till 1977.
UofL last beat Marshall in 1981 (36-0). Currently, Marshall has won the past four meetings. They beat UofL in1987 when Marshall eventually became the 1-AA National runner-up. They finished the year at 10-5. UofL finished the year 3-7-1.
They met again in the 1998 Motor City Bowel which Marshall won. They finished 12-1. Uof L finished 7-5.
They met again in the 2002 GMAC Bowel which Marshall won. They finished 11-2 and ranked #19 (CoachesPoll) and #24 (AP Poll). Uof L finished at 7-6.
The last meeting was 2011 which Marshall won 17-13. Both teams finished with 7-6 records.
So, no, most of UofL wins against Marshall were not a result of the 1970 plane crash. And, no, these were not some of UofL's best teams. I think it would be more fair to Marshall to say these were some their best teams. They were doggone good.
UofL last beat Marshall in 1981 (36-0). Currently, Marshall has won the past four meetings. They beat UofL in1987 when Marshall eventually became the 1-AA National runner-up. They finished the year at 10-5. UofL finished the year 3-7-1.
They met again in the 1998 Motor City Bowel which Marshall won. They finished 12-1. Uof L finished 7-5.
They met again in the 2002 GMAC Bowel which Marshall won. They finished 11-2 and ranked #19 (CoachesPoll) and #24 (AP Poll). Uof L finished at 7-6.
The last meeting was 2011 which Marshall won 17-13. Both teams finished with 7-6 records.
So, no, most of UofL wins against Marshall were not a result of the 1970 plane crash. And, no, these were not some of UofL's best teams. I think it would be more fair to Marshall to say these were some their best teams. They were doggone good.
First, I said I wasn't sure if I was correct about when Louisville's wins came. However, I'm glad you were able to show me.
However as far as the last part, we've heard this argument before and it was totally shut down. In any case, Louisville hasn't beaten Marshall in 35 years and I don't see that changing in 2016.
My comments have followed the OP about SOS in 2016, not about which team is better or which team UK aspires to beat. I have never claimed UK is better and such a claim would be irrelevant to this thread, but for the fact that the two teams play each other and, therefore, impact each's SOS.
Good summary. UofL didn't really duck Cato and Company so much as it jumped at the chance to play at Notre Dame in 2014. As a result, we had to drop a non-conference game, and Marshall was willing to postpone to 2016.
Marshall will be really good next year, but so will Louisville. I'm expecting it to be very close either way. Very much looking forward to be in attendance, but maybe I shouldn't go - I have been in attendance at each of the last four Louisville-Marshall games.
Rather then comment on Loserville's schedule, I think it's better to comment on our schedule until we beat them. Until we can beat them, I could care less what their record is. It's hard to brag or bad-mouth them when they continue to beat us.
It's like talking trash to the opponent, when your 20 points behind, and all he does is point at the score on the scoreboard.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
It's like talking trash to the opponent, when your 20 points behind, and all he does is point at the score on the scoreboard.
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
I see two top 6 teams on the schedule and Houston has their star QB back and will be top 20 for sure. After that we will see but UK should be Bowl team next year and NC ST, Marshall and Pitt were Bowl teams. Sure UK will play a stronger schedule if the SEC East comes back a bit but it is not like UL is playing a bad schedule and I am sure UK has never played what could be 3 Bowl teams non conference.
Howie said it was UL strongest schedule ever and that is the truth. Never played two top 6 teams before in the same year.
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HAHA seriously, Rick Pitino oughta be whooped. I have had a lot of fun poking at the step son over the schedule. He has quite a few season tickets so he is footing the bill for that ugliness. I know they expected a down year but there needs to be at least a Memphis and a UC mixed in with the rest of that garbage OOC they scheduled. were I a paying fan Id be none to happy with what I was given for my $$$ this year.
The deal is the son doesnt take me too serious as basketball ranks well behind football and even baseball to this old codger. So my poking doesnt cut as deep as Id like. I look forward to the day we meet them Thanksgiving weekend and both teams have bigger implications in the national picture in regards to the post season. I can see it happening I just hope its before I die. Sure its fun to beat anybody but its a lot more fun when expectations are so high and you can rub em out. Even with their mediocre results the last two years dont think they didnt thoroughly enjoy putting the final nail in our coffin. We will get our chance to do the same in the future aslong as we remain committed. I dont look for them to go away either but as long as we show up at the party they can do as they please. I figure they will always be a middlin top 25 team with maybe a real good squad every 4-5 years. I think the league they are in sets up perfectly for them. I also think we can become a player in the East. If our foes continue to linger as middlin teams (Ga, UT, FL) and South Carolina turns to their historical form (abysmal) we can always hang in the top 3 with a run at the top every 4 or 5 years as well. After all these years I shouldnt believe, but I do. Consider me cautiously optimistic.
unc lost to scar and scar took clemson to the wire at the end of the year... and clemson was a much better team as the year went on. im not buying that any acc schedule is that difficult. an over rated nd and a few other wins make everyone forget about the horrible losses the acc took this year.
Honest question. Didn't they know that ND was basically moving to the ACC in 2014? Also, you should go. Most people have a very good experience in Huntington, even when their team loses.
Looks like you have a doubter, Fickus, lol. Tmuck always suspects anyone who doesn't hate his way.
I liked this post quite a bit. Anyone who thinks for a moment that UofL fans don't wince when we compare basketball head to head results is off their rocker. It's truly painful to us all over there, lol. That cannot possibly be denied. But I also believe it proves God has a sense of humor, much as Fickus relishes that quality, it seems to me. Back around the turn of the Century, onwards, for the longest time the programs swapped wins, you win football, we win basketball and vice versa. I think it is truly ironic how it has maintained that sort of strange equality now - over a similar period of time. But what used to be a fan base composed of basketball-only mad adherents, has made some dramatic changes. We are seeing the advent of football-first Louisville fans. I never believed I would see this in my lifetime, but it happening sure as shootin'. Unless I am totally off-base, I believe I am seeing some of that same drift in here. I also think it's why UK considers itself a "sleeping giant" - because certainly the willingness in the fan base is to accomplish good things on the football field.
This whole thing has lessened my animosity simply because it seems somehow so preordained. We play in this pageant of rivalry, sometimes witnessing world class achievements. This, to me, is what a true sports fan lives for. It is way too easy to forget that.
Louisville did get the invite until November 2012 and didn't find out they were playing ND until if I remember correctly late 2013/early 2014 in South Bend. They went to Marshall and both agreed to move it to 2016. Marshall did Louisville a favor because if I remember correctly Louisville was potentially looking at only 5 home games in 2014.
Good move for both....many times when something like this happens the school from a P5 league would just buy out the return game. Louisville get a quality G5 opponent that only 3 hours away and Marshall get a P5 school to go to their place...the P5 school in Marshall home state had to get it arm twisted to go to Huntington
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I remember. I also know it's because of the same reason Kentucky and Louisville didn't play for decades. It's a no win situation for Kentucky, just like it is with West Virginia
Difference is Marshall is unfortunately in C-USA a G5 league....Now both Louisville and Kentucky are in P5 leagues and both the ACC/SEC have this Final Weekend Conference Rivalry...the UofL/UK series it seems is a Conference thing.
You're right but it still doesn't change the fact that both state schools are in no win situations
No one hates like you. Anyone who has surveyed a UL board knows that. And, you act like you have never popped a UL fan for sounding like a troll. smh
That is incorrect. With Louisville's invite and first year in the ACC including at Notre Dame, Louisville and Marshall agreed to push it back to 2016. Louisville would have had 7 away games that year had the game not been rescheduled.
I don't understand your name, U Love our UK (so do I) yet most of your posts are anti UK.
But back on subject, bad thread.
Talk about the proven things, Transfer U, amazing class grades for transfers and dropouts, sleazy leaders that are adulterers and abortionists as examples for your young men, hiring and profiting from maybe the biggest cheater in recruiting history and not able to fire him when it all came out (not that it wasn't known by Strong and jurich before he was hired), unable to take a GREAT job at TU instead of a much less suitable one at Texas (they don't cheat that much), all of jurich's sleazy deals, including playing games on high school footballs night, vouching for Willie, the habitual criminal, using the COA to pay your players more legally, Minardi Hall (not over yet), too many legit things that stamp them as win at all cost losers------maybe not losers on the field or court yet. but probably coming sooner or later.
If Minardi Hall opens the closet door lots of things might come tumbling out, but I have close to zero faith in the incompetent NCAA.
The point is, UL's schedule has traditionally sucked, and now, that they finally have a decent one (just decent), they're already making excuses, all the while, they downplayed the importance of schedule when referencing us for the last 15 years! Basically, they are just hypocrites crying poor me. I'm not comparing the state of our programs right now. I'm just calling Howie out for pretending to be a sports journalist, while being such a biased D-bag. He is the "homerst" homer of any reporter I have ever encountered.
Zero objectivity? Well I see 4 absolute losses in Fl St, Clemson,Houston, and Louisville. 5 probable losses in Duke( if you can't beat Vandy...) , NC State, Marshall, Va, and BC. So that leaves 2 probable wins in Wake and Charlotte. Maybe seven losses isn't enough????
What Western has for it is both Jurich and Petrino pulling for WKU. Yes Jurich pulling! Now that (WKU) has Jeff Brohm and that family. Until UL, Brohms and Petrino pulled for the WKU was a fledgling Sun belt bottom dweller school. Like UL WKU is successful in FB and BB! I'd love to see all 3 successful!
The contract for a home and home with Marshall was signed in October 2009. The first game was played at Louisville in 2011. The return game was scheduled for 2014 at Marshall.
So at the time the contract with Marshall was signed, UofL had no idea that ND was moving to the ACC for all sports except football in 2013-14, and that Notre Dame was going to begin playing 5 ACC teams per year beginning in 2014.