Hahahaha CNN Headline: Trump to planet: Drop Dead

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Another CNN headline:
President Trump's decision puts US at odds with nearly every other nation

I knew it would be good, I didn't know it would be this good.

Now now, don't be so hasty. With the US in not being in the Paris Accords is Syria and Nicaragua. That's some pretty fine company.
 

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Another CNN headline:
President Trump's decision puts US at odds with nearly every other nation

I knew it would be good, I didn't know it would be this good.

They all want our money, we don't want to give it to them. I'm at odds with those sycophants too.
 

Airport

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Another CNN headline:
President Trump's decision puts US at odds with nearly every other nation

I knew it would be good, I didn't know it would be this good.

The polar ice caps will melt completely by 6pm tonight.
 

TarHeelEer

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I've got my bunker stocked. When do the floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and droughts hit?
 

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Now now, don't be so hasty. With the US in not being in the Paris Accords is Syria and Nicaragua. That's some pretty fine company.

China enter in 2030. India wants big money before entering. I guess you forgot to mention these two.

Why don't you inform the board just how much global warming will be reduced by this accord by the year 2100.
 

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op2

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China enter in 2030. India wants big money before entering. I guess you forgot to mention these two.

Why don't you inform the board just how much global warming will be reduced by this accord by the year 2100.

The only countries not in it are Syria, Nicaragua and the USA.

India, BTW, has about 1/10th as much per capita carbon emission as the US. China is more like 1/5th.
 

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You people who swallowed the whole climate change ******** can safely be ignored as sheep. You can't think for yourselves.
 

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EEResistable

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You mean like coal is coming back? And Obama killed coal?

Coal won't come back. Obama did his part killing coal by screwing around with the EPA and forcing power plants to close or switch to gas. If you're honest you'll agree. But you're a sheep and can't think for yourself.
 

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China emits more carbon that we do. Where are you getting your information?

You didn't answer my question. If we stayed in Paris, how much would global warming be reduced by the year 2100?

http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warmin.../each-countrys-share-of-co2.html#.WTB6gsaZNAY

China has five times as many people as the US. Per capita the US emits way more carbon.

I don't know or frankly care about whatever projection you're linking to about how much carbon will be reduced. (You never believe such things anyway so I don't know why you're trotting them out now.) Every damn country in the world was signed onto this except Syria and Nicaragua. How often do you get every country except two to agree to anything? The world is changing and instead of being a leader the world's only superpower is abdicating. It's sad and it's not going to go down well in history.
 

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China has five times as many people as the US. Per capita the US emits way more carbon.

I don't know or frankly care about whatever projection you're linking to about how much carbon will be reduced. (You never believe such things anyway so I don't know why you're trotting them out now.) Every damn country in the world was signed onto this except Syria and Nicaragua. How often do you get every country except two to agree to anything? The world is changing and instead of being a leader the world's only superpower is abdicating. It's sad and it's not going to go down well in history.
Per capita, hahahahha, nice qualifier.
 

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Per capita, hahahahha, nice qualifier.

LOL...yeah, you're right, it is a nice qualifier, after all, it's all the matters, right? Right? Are you going to claim otherwise?

To be clear I made the qualifier in the previous post too but the other guy ignored it and that's why I made it again.
 

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China has five times as many people as the US. Per capita the US emits way more carbon.

I don't know or frankly care about whatever projection you're linking to about how much carbon will be reduced. (You never believe such things anyway so I don't know why you're trotting them out now.) Every damn country in the world was signed onto this except Syria and Nicaragua. How often do you get every country except two to agree to anything? The world is changing and instead of being a leader the world's only superpower is abdicating. It's sad and it's not going to go down well in history.

Bottom line. Obama negotiated this agreement. He did not submit it as a treaty to make it law. Trump did not like the agreement. He wants it renegotiated. Simple as that. Obama could have immortalized this if it was a treaty. When you rule with a pen and a phone, it can be undone with that same pen.

BTW, it will reduce global warming by .05 degree C by 2100. Trump said that it was not worth the cost to America. I think most Americans will agree with him. The costs were staggering.

Again, China will not reduce anything until 2030 IF you actually trust China to live up to its word. I do not.
 
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LOL...yeah, you're right, it is a nice qualifier, after all, it's all the matters, right? Right? Are you going to claim otherwise?

To be clear I made the qualifier in the previous post too but the other guy ignored it and that's why I made it again.

Because it is IRRELEVANT. It about emissions, right? China is the world's leader and therefore hurting the climate the most. And they get to continue to do that for at least 13 more years if you actually trust them.
 

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Another CNN headline:
President Trump's decision puts US at odds with nearly every other nation

I knew it would be good, I didn't know it would be this good.
Just as easy to interpret it as a major step toward leadership. Others may have become followers by nit wanting to look out of step with other Nations even IF they are not in tune with the stance taken. Global warming is and was a hoax and led those pushing it to alter their stance and begin referring to their 'religion; as 'climate change' (a truly meaningless term when one thinks about the words and their meaning. The climate changes constantly and always has! No legislation or taxation will alter the influence of the sun and its activity cycles. Man is not and has not created or caused lasting changes in the climate. ALL the rash predictions regarding what is to come and the dooms day approach are from computer modeling based on programs written with the purpose of achieving the harsh ends desired in advance by those creating the models. Remember the saying about computers--garbage in--garbage out. Writing a program to model anything and have the result come out as desired is not difficult. To then rely on such models as anything more than a hoax is foolish. Then we add in the fraudulent data that has been contributed by folks seeking funds as their support and knowing that more funds can be attained if the 'data', however obtained (including being generated without investigations), supports the perceived state of facetiously generated hysteria. Some wish to pass this off as 'science' and scientific research while many more realize it is NOT.
Donald Trump deserves high praise for recognizing the reality and having the courage to stand up for fact and reason beyond hysteria and fictions computer modeling. Now to get the schools to STOP teaching fiction as if it were really scientific fact. Our kids deserve better.
 

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It's all about getting the hell out of a bad deal.
No one told you the news?.....All our atheist friends have now found religion........they all now believe in the "end times". Within 1...2...3...or 4 yrs.
 
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Just as easy to interpret it as a major step toward leadership. Others may have become followers by nit wanting to look out of step with other Nations even IF they are not in tune with the stance taken. Global warming is and was a hoax and led those pushing it to alter their stance and begin referring to their 'religion; as 'climate change' (a truly meaningless term when one thinks about the words and their meaning. The climate changes constantly and always has! No legislation or taxation will alter the influence of the sun and its activity cycles. Man is not and has not created or caused lasting changes in the climate. ALL the rash predictions regarding what is to come and the dooms day approach are from computer modeling based on programs written with the purpose of achieving the harsh ends desired in advance by those creating the models. Remember the saying about computers--garbage in--garbage out. Writing a program to model anything and have the result come out as desired is not difficult. To then rely on such models as anything more than a hoax is foolish. Then we add in the fraudulent data that has been contributed by folks seeking funds as their support and knowing that more funds can be attained if the 'data', however obtained (including being generated without investigations), supports the perceived state of facetiously generated hysteria. Some wish to pass this off as 'science' and scientific research while many more realize it is NOT.
Donald Trump deserves high praise for recognizing the reality and having the courage to stand up for fact and reason beyond hysteria and fictions computer modeling. Now to get the schools to STOP teaching fiction as if it were really scientific fact. Our kids deserve better.


There is no way in hell you can be this stupid and actually be an ear doctor....or any kind of doctor that involves any amount of science.
 

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There is no way in hell you can be this stupid and actually be an ear doctor....or any kind of doctor that involves any amount of science.
You need to pay attention why Trump bailed on this deal....It was NOT about science.....it was about ECONOMICS. Plus.....Trump said we might re-join.
 

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You need to pay attention why Trump bailed on this deal....It was NOT about science.....it was about ECONOMICS. Plus.....Trump said we might re-join.

Not quite. He said he is willing to renegotiate the deal and is willing to sign on if it is fair and treats all countries the same.

This will never happen because China and other countries will never agree.
 

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Because it is IRRELEVANT. It about emissions, right? China is the world's leader and therefore hurting the climate the most. And they get to continue to do that for at least 13 more years if you actually trust them.

Are you serious? So then if China decides tomorrow to split into two 700 million people countries the US will be the leading emitter and will be the bigger problem than the two 700 million people countries that used to make up China? Is that what you're saying? Can you really be advocating something like this?
 

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Are you serious? So then if China decides tomorrow to split into two 700 million people countries the US will be the leading emitter and will be the bigger problem than the two 700 million people countries that used to make up China? Is that what you're saying? Can you really be advocating something like this?
If China split into two countries......those two countries would be 1 and 2 as the worlds biggest polluters.
 

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Are you serious? So then if China decides tomorrow to split into two 700 million people countries the US will be the leading emitter and will be the bigger problem than the two 700 million people countries that used to make up China? Is that what you're saying? Can you really be advocating something like this?

I am saying China is the largest emitter of CO2 in the world. This is a true statement. Since the alarmists think that CO2 is very, very bad, per capita CO2 is irrelevant since all that matters is the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.
 

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If China split into two countries......those two countries would be 1 and 2 as the worlds biggest polluters.

I don't know the exact numbers but that's no the point. Split it into three countries instead of two then. Or four. Or whatever. The point is, per capita is what matters.
 
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You need to pay attention why Trump bailed on this deal....It was NOT about science.....it was about ECONOMICS. Plus.....Trump said we might re-join.

You need to re-read eerdoc's post and then you will understand exactly why I said he has no clue about science. My post was about eerdoc, not trump.
 

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China has five times as many people as the US. Per capita the US emits way more carbon.

I don't know or frankly care about whatever projection you're linking to about how much carbon will be reduced. (You never believe such things anyway so I don't know why you're trotting them out now.) Every damn country in the world was signed onto this except Syria and Nicaragua. How often do you get every country except two to agree to anything? The world is changing and instead of being a leader the world's only superpower is abdicating. It's sad and it's not going to go down well in history.
Your 'abdication' is, indeed, a true measure of leadership. Your first sentence contains within it the major 'problem'--a religion based on the false premise that 'carbon' is a culprit---"...about how much carbon will be reduced..." When 'carbon' is referenced there is an immediate transposition to the final combustion product of carbon containing materials---CARBON DIOXIDE. However, reliable research (not the trash propagated by those wishing to gain favor with politicians or others that may have means of providing desirable funding for thee creation of politically desirable 'data') has shown that there is no relationship between carbon dioxide and temperature fluctuations. I further submit that our analytical methods for measuring nearly anything today are vastly superior to former methods as relates to both accuracy and precision of the measurement. Making comparisons to anything measured in the past is not very scientific. hen we much introduce the world of statistics and the drawing of conclusions from a number arrived at through averaging and manipulating numbers collected from a host of locations and drawing wide spread conclusions. REALLY? We also have knowledge that the locations sampled do not remain the same so that constant has also become a variable. Assessment of extraneous date being gathered and included within the collection of the desired parameter is an age old analytical problem that so often gets pushed to the background because the inclusion often renders the data uninterpretable and providing false conclusions. This is our current world of man made climate change and its religious followers.
 

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I've got my bunker stocked. When do the floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and droughts hit?
Oh, let's see---answer to the question: today, yesterday, last year, last decade, last century, forever. Has any of the hysterical predictions by AL Gore (and others) regarding sea level increases and the massive flooding that WILL occur along the coast occurred? REALLY?
 

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Your 'abdication' is, indeed, a true measure of leadership. Your first sentence contains within it the major 'problem'--a religion based on the false premise that 'carbon' is a culprit---"...about how much carbon will be reduced..." When 'carbon' is referenced there is an immediate transposition to the final combustion product of carbon containing materials---CARBON DIOXIDE. However, reliable research (not the trash propagated by those wishing to gain favor with politicians or others that may have means of providing desirable funding for thee creation of politically desirable 'data') has shown that there is no relationship between carbon dioxide and temperature fluctuations. I further submit that our analytical methods for measuring nearly anything today are vastly superior to former methods as relates to both accuracy and precision of the measurement. Making comparisons to anything measured in the past is not very scientific. hen we much introduce the world of statistics and the drawing of conclusions from a number arrived at through averaging and manipulating numbers collected from a host of locations and drawing wide spread conclusions. REALLY? We also have knowledge that the locations sampled do not remain the same so that constant has also become a variable. Assessment of extraneous date being gathered and included within the collection of the desired parameter is an age old analytical problem that so often gets pushed to the background because the inclusion often renders the data uninterpretable and providing false conclusions. This is our current world of man made climate change and its religious followers.

Please do publish your work in the science journals and after wowing them all proceed to Oslo, Norway to collect your Nobel Prize.