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roadtrasheer said:
Just a thought..... Knowing that Israel is very good at counter terrorism and should know every move hamas is making..... could have or would they have let something like this happen so they have a reason to completely wipe them out of the region?
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No. We are good at counter-terrorism when our country isn't divided and our politicians don't ignore the information because it doesn't conform to their political ideology. Does anyone think our border not being secured is so we can have an excuse to attack Mexico and South America? Terrorists take advantage of a divided country. It’s why they use propaganda in the first place to divide it.

Israel understands this could cause fighters from all over the middle east to flood there to fight. They now have an almost impossible task of threading a needle to defend themselves and not provoking that.
 
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atlkvb said:
Not a chance. Hamas and Hezbollah exist for only one reason. Israel's destruction. No way Israel surrenders precious Jewish lives to wipe out folks dedicated to their destruction.
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I see your point. Guess my personal distrust in our Gov and far as that goes any government....
I wouldn't put it past any person wanting to stay in power to create or allow a disaster. I wouldn't put it below a political group to come up with a disaster to push a agenda.
History tells me to be skeptical of all things .
 
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No. We are good at counter-terrorism when our country isn't divided and our politicians don't ignore the information because it doesn't conform to their political ideology. Does anyone think our border not being secured is so we can have an excuse to attack Mexico and South America? Terrorists take advantage of a divided country. It’s why they use propaganda in the first place to divide it.

Israel understands this could cause fighters from all over the middle east to flood there to fight. They now have an almost impossible task of threading a needle to defend themselves and not provoking that.
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Just asking because of my own distrust of governments or political or religious ideologies in them . Wouldn't be the first time a government created or allowed a disaster to push a narrative or to achieve a objective they believe is for the greater good.
 
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Right now Israel is doing what I said needs to happen here first. They securing everything inside their country. Going into Gaza happens later. This is just getting started and has the potential to turn really big depending on how the rest of the middle east reacts. A strong President would have already called the leaders of all those Countries that support Hamas and Hezbollah and told them to stand down unless they want to get nuked.
 
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roadtrasheer said:
I see your point. Guess my personal distrust in our Gov and far as that goes any government....
I wouldn't put it past any person wanting to stay in power to create or allow a disaster. I wouldn't put it below a political group to come up with a disaster to push a agenda.
History tells me to be skeptical of all things .
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Hence why our politicians selling us out for so long allows our enemies to pump out propaganda to divide us more.
 
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roadtrasheer said:
I see your point. Guess my personal distrust in our Gov and far as that goes any government....
I wouldn't put it past any person wanting to stay in power to create or allow a disaster. I wouldn't put it below a political group to come up with a disaster to push a agenda.
History tells me to be skeptical of all things .
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What do you think Covid was? Covid, while obviously a real virus and posed a health risk to many, was used by politicians, bureaucrats and the media to get Trump out of office.
 
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Gunny46 said:
Right now Israel is doing what I said needs to happen here first. They securing everything inside their country. Going into Gaza happens later. This is just getting started and has the potential to turn really big depending on how the rest of the middle east reacts. A strong President would have already called the leaders of all those Countries that support Hamas and Hezbollah and told them to stand down unless they want to get nuked.
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This to draw them in before securing Israel from the inside and getting more Reservist to the border first.



Hamas threatens to begin broadcasting executions of Israeli hostages​

 
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roadtrasheer said:
I see your point. Guess my personal distrust in our Gov and far as that goes any government....
I wouldn't put it past any person wanting to stay in power to create or allow a disaster. I wouldn't put it below a political group to come up with a disaster to push a agenda.
History tells me to be skeptical of all things .
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To fully understand that conflict my good man you need to study your Bible. Israel's hatred by her Arab neighbors goes all the way back to the Old Testament and who Almighty God promised that land to?

It is essentially unsolvable conflict until Christ returns and establishes as it was promised. The pure hatred of Israel by many in the world (not just Arabs) is because of a determination on the part of non believers to defy Almighty God's Word and the iron clad promises he made to his chosen people.

The author of that defiance is very busy today and dedicated to doing all within his limited power to stop fulfillment of Almighty God's Word. He failed at Bethlehem, he failed at Calvary, and he will fail over Jerusalem.

If you don't know Christ, now is no better time to learn. Check out the videos I linked earlier ITT, it's a good primer on what we're facing today.
 
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Gunny46 said:
This to draw them in before securing Israel from the inside and getting more Reservist to the border first.



Hamas threatens to begin broadcasting executions of Israeli hostages​

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I hate to be the one to say it but the majority of these hostages are probably not going to be able to be saved. Hostage rescue requires surprise or the ability to cordon the objective. Going to be hard to accomplish in the current situation and why they were taken in the first place. If the hostages are located in multiple places that would make the task even more difficult.
 
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Im fully aware of biblical Teachings. I know how this ends.
atlkvb said:
To fully understand that conflict my good man you need to study your Bible. Israel's hatred by her Arab neighbors goes all the way back to the Old Testament and who Almighty God promised that land to?

It is essentially unsolvable conflict until Christ returns and establishes as it was promised. The pure hatred of Israel by many in the world (not just Arabs) is because of a determination on the part of non believers to defy Almighty God's Word and the iron clad promises he made to his chosen people.

The author of that defiance is very busy today and dedicated to doing all within his limited power to stop fulfillment of Almighty God's Word. He failed at Bethlehem, he failed at Calvary, and he will fail over Jerusalem.

If you don't know Christ, now is no better time to learn. Check out the videos I linked earlier ITT, it's a good primer on what we're facing tTeac
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In case anyone is unsure, this attack on Israel did not have to catch us by surprise. Excellent read from the former head of Trump's Defense intelligence agency who details more incompetence from creepy Joe.


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during Biden’s first year, climate change was the top priority. Don’t believe me, his DoD’s first CONOP (concept of operations, the mandate that moves the DoD’s rudder) was on climate change. Not terrorists, not the CCP, not Iran, and not the cartels (like we did during Trump’s term), but the weather. There’s your critical intelligence failure driven by Biden’s desire to weaponize intelligence for political narrative purposes. And it was intentional. That’s the difference between Trump and Biden. Now the world sees what happens when you do not manage or understand your priorities.

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You do not need to be in national security to know planning a declaration of war of this magnitude by HAMAS and Iran takes thousands of people, months of work, and painstaking collaboration. Are we to believe the Biden IC ‘just missed’ on the intel, it was a gap? Not for one second, it was an intentional decision to prioritize the weather, diversity/inclusion, and giving money to terrorists, than the safety of us and our allies.
 
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