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This is essentially proposing biological warfare or performing a mass medical treatment on people who did not approve of the treatment.

 
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ILisBest

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The guy that wants someone/anyone to face consequences for trafficking kids/young women with Epstein. Look in the mirror every once in a while.
I do not get the selective outrage to continuously post about Epstein other than you don't like Trump. Epstein is a drop in the bucket. If you care about rape victims, these stats are very alarming and maybe explain to you why few waste time on this topic. Rarely do rapist face justice. I get the media wants to push a repetitive narrative to further their agenda, but the perpetrators are rarely held accountable especially when it comes to powerful people.

A widely cited model from RAINN (updated as of 2025) illustrates how few cases result in conviction, based on estimates of total sexual assaults (many unreported):
  • Out of every 1,000 sexual assaults:
    • 310 are reported to law enforcement (about 1 in 3; the rest go unreported due to fear, stigma, distrust, etc.).
    • 50 lead to an arrest.
    • 28 cases are referred for prosecution and result in a felony conviction.
    • 25 perpetrators are sentenced to incarceration.
This means ~97-98% of perpetrators in estimated sexual assaults face no incarceration, and conviction rates are extremely low overall.
 

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I do not get the selective outrage to continuously post about Epstein other than you don't like Trump. Epstein is a drop in the bucket. If you care about rape victims, these stats are very alarming and maybe explain to you why few waste time on this topic. Rarely do rapist face justice. I get the media wants to push a repetitive narrative to further their agenda, but the perpetrators are rarely held accountable especially when it comes to powerful people.

A widely cited model from RAINN (updated as of 2025) illustrates how few cases result in conviction, based on estimates of total sexual assaults (many unreported):
  • Out of every 1,000 sexual assaults:
    • 310 are reported to law enforcement (about 1 in 3; the rest go unreported due to fear, stigma, distrust, etc.).
    • 50 lead to an arrest.
    • 28 cases are referred for prosecution and result in a felony conviction.
    • 25 perpetrators are sentenced to incarceration.
This means ~97-98% of perpetrators in estimated sexual assaults face no incarceration, and conviction rates are extremely low overall.

Or, hear me out, maybe we need to get better at prosecuting those who assault and traffic women and girls.

Using your logic, we should stop talking about voter fraud, Medicare/Medicaid fraud, because people rarely face penalties.

I didn’t anticipate so many conservatives advocating for moving on from Epstein. They wouldn’t if a Dem leader was the one telling people to move on. You are letting Trump influence your position on the massive # of crimes committed with Epstein. I’ve been consistent.
 

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Or, hear me out, maybe we need to get better at prosecuting those who assault and traffic women and girls.

Using your logic, we should stop talking about voter fraud, Medicare/Medicaid fraud, because people rarely face penalties.

I didn’t anticipate so many conservatives advocating for moving on from Epstein. They wouldn’t if a Dem leader was the one telling people to move on. You are letting Trump influence your position on the massive # of crimes committed with Epstein. I’ve been consistent.
I think anyone that commits rape should face the music. It has not happened on a wide scale. That sucks, but it is reality. The media is not outraged over these stats. They just care about slinging mud on Trump even though this appears to be more of a Dem problem. Probably why the Biden administration hid everything that Trump just released. There is always the possibility that phony documents were inserted by dirty FBI agents which is why I try to choose my words carefully here. If Biden truly had the goods on Trump, he would have released this stuff during his term.

I refuse to be ginned up by a media that is more interested in leftwing propaganda and fairy tales than reporting on policy decisions and the effects of those.

I also don't care about the Clinton's dog and pony show that will be filled with lies. We already know Bill will lie about his escapades. HC is not credible either, but they are powerful people that will have nothing happen to them. If all perpetrators combined have a 2.5% conviction rate, what do you think is for powerful, wealthy people?

I have always stated I have a greater interest in domestic and foreign policy. I don't like to chase the sideshows. Also, I don't vote for someone because they look good or have better decorum. I might have at college age, but that ship has sailed.
 
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I think anyone that commits rape should face the music. It has not happened on a wide scale. That sucks, but it is reality. The media is not outraged over these stats. They just care about slinging mud on Trump even though this appears to be more of a Dem problem. Probably why the Biden administration hid everything that Trump just released. There is always the possibility that phony documents were inserted by dirty FBI agents which is why I try to choose my words carefully here. If Biden truly had the goods on Trump, he would have released this stuff during his term.

I refuse to be ginned up by a media that is more interested in leftwing propaganda and fairy tales than reporting on policy decisions and the effects of those.

I also don't care about the Clinton's dog and pony show that will be filled with lies. We already know Bill will lie about his escapades. HC is not credible either, but they are powerful people that will have nothing happen to them. If all perpetrators combined have a 2.5% conviction rate, what do you think is for powerful, wealthy people?

I have always stated I have a greater interest in domestic and foreign policy. I don't like to chase the sideshows. Also, I don't vote for someone because they look good or have better decorum. I might have at college age, but that ship has sailed.

I’ve said many times I don’t think Trump participated in the rape/trafficking of young girls. I didn’t expect Biden to go after traffickers and those that participated. I did expect Trump and this DOJ to do something. They aren’t doing anything meaningful.

Your stats and position on this must sound fantastic to all the men that rape women and girls. Very encouraging. Let’s just move on, right?

Or maybe, now that the most notorious sex trafficking story in American history is in the spotlight, we could make a statement. This **** isn’t acceptable anymore.

Nah, keep it up rapists. No one really cares. Just want to expose people on the other team.

Let’s move on to more important matters, like the Melania movie!!! The sex trafficking victims must love hearing that they are just part of a “sideshow”.
 
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I’ve said many times I don’t think Trump participated in the rape/trafficking of young girls. I didn’t expect Biden to go after traffickers and those that participated. I did expect Trump and this DOJ to do something. They aren’t doing anything meaningful.

Your stats and position on this must sound fantastic to all the men that rape women and girls. Very encouraging. Let’s just move on, right?

Or maybe, now that the most notorious sex trafficking story in American history is in the spotlight, we could make a statement. This **** isn’t acceptable anymore.

Nah, keep it up rapists. No one really cares. Just want to expose people on the other team.
It’s legitimately impossible for these guys to admit even one flaw. They’re defending letting powerful rapists off the hook. Please move on. Nothing to see here (unless a democrat like Clinton or Gates is implicated). They will ride the ship down until the very end.

It’s no different than the liberals they hate defending insane policy like child mutilation and trans sports.
 
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“Rapists always with it, so why waste time going after them” is one of the wildest arguments I’ve ever seen.

You guys realize there is plenty of talk about kids/women being killed down there too, right?
 
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“Rapists always with it, so why waste time going after them” is one of the wildest arguments I’ve ever seen.
This is a straw man and not what I said.

You are attempting to take the moral high ground where there is none. Unless you have been an activist for assaulted women, you have done no more than I have. The problem is it is widely underreported and it is always a "he said, she said". I am guessing it is incredibly hard to prove without immediate reporting and a rape kit with DNA. Do you think these men are just going to admit it?

If you think actively posting how mortified you are over Epstein and the Trump DOJ on here is actually having an impact, you are wrong. Go get a law degree and help these girls pro bono. I would applaud that. Otherwise, you are just carrying the leftwing media's water here. Kudos
 
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This is a straw man and not what I said.

You are attempting to take the moral high ground where there is none. Unless you have been an activist for assaulted women, you have done no more than I have. The problem is it is widely underreported and it is always a "he said, she said". I am guessing it is incredibly hard to prove without immediate reporting and a rape kit with DNA. Do you think these men are just going to admit it?

If you think actively posting how mortified you are over Epstein and the Trump DOJ on here is actually having an impact, you are wrong. Go get a law degree and help these girls pro bono. I would applaud that. Otherwise, you are just carrying the leftwing media's water here. Kudos

Bondi said there were thousands of videos. Did she lie?
 

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It is more than stupid. It is vile and racist. I am sure a good portion of MAGA doesn't see a problem with it. Trump knows his base.
More BS by the man of many names….. Trump would never post that. You believe the deep fake bc you hate the bad orange man. So gullible…..
 

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More BS by the man of many names….. Trump would never post that. You believe the deep fake bc you hate the bad orange man. So gullible…..
You wish it wasn't true but it is. The video went up Thursday night. Trump's press secretary was defending it Friday morning. Why would she defend something that was fake? Since then the story was that a staffer posted it by mistake. Then the latest version is that Trump reviewed the material before it was posted but didn't watch all of it. If you believe that, then who is the gullible one? Regardless, even if Trump's version is true, he should apologize but he won't. Makes you proud to have voted for such a racist scumbag, doesn't it?

Man of many names? I have always been Jeff.
 
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