I was one of many hoping Harris would come to UK, but who can really blame a young man for going where he would play on the big stage, possibly for a national championship. How many times have we signed a stud from another state in basketball? Every year since coach Cal arrived. Still, I will always hope the guys who decide to play for the Cats outshine those who choose to play somewhere else.
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Boom is a top offensive threat in the SEC but to say well Boom did more as a freshman is silly...Harris is currently playing behind probable Heisman winner
You totally missed the point of the controversy. It's no longer about his choice of schools. It's about his gutless, classless big mouth.
Boom was the #4 APB & #118 player overall. At one point, Boom was rated the #2 APB. He was committed to Georgia before committing to UK, so he wasn't "passed over". Boom also averaged over 7 YPC this year which is excellent.
I honestly don't care who is better than who. I all I care about is that Boom is one of the most explosive playmakers in the SEC, and even more importantly than that, Boom is a KY Wildcat.
I honestly don't care who is better than who. I all I care about is that Boom is one of the most explosive playmakers in the SEC, and even more importantly than that, Boom is a KY Wildcat.
That Harris is playing behind a probable Heisman winner is a reasonable explanation for lack of opportunity. It's not an explanation for pedestrian numbers when he did play. Ultimately, he may become a star, but one would think he would have put up better numbers when he did get the ball. Put another way, Boom did more a freshman "per capita".
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We do know what he told his friends about just using us for the perks, and he was going to Alabama. Just like the little A-hole latest tweet. I despise liars!
OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
What? Silly? The only way you can compare is by stats. You don't get to play pretend and guess what he might have done.
what does it really say to boast of such quality NFL talent coming out of a program that can never manage a winning conference record? and how long ago was our last 4-4 record?
Boom, Horton and JoJo all had more yards per carry than Harris with a weaker offensive line. Heck even King had almost as many yards as Harris with 1/4 of the number of carries. Who knows if Harris will develop into a great back before it is over but as of now he doesn't seem to be any better than 2 or 3 guys on our current roster.
Saw where Harris pointed out on twitter that T. J. Yeldon, Eddie Lacy, Trent Richardson and Mark Ingram all played special teams as freshmen.
Remembering how much better Yeldon was as a true freshman than Harris I looked at their freshman year statistics.
Henry had 36 carries, 382 yards, 10.6 yards/carry; Yeldon had 175 carries, 1,108 yards, 6.3 yards/carry average; Lacy (a RS freshman) had 56 carries, 406 yards, 7.3 yards/carry; Richardson had 145 carries, 751 yards, 5.2 yards/carry; Ingram had 143 carries, 728 yards, 5.1 yards/carry.
Harris had 45 carries, 155 yards, 3.4 yards/carry (if you deduct the 41 yards he had on one carry against MTSU he had 2.59 yards/carry).
Remembering how much better Yeldon was as a true freshman than Harris I looked at their freshman year statistics.
Henry had 36 carries, 382 yards, 10.6 yards/carry; Yeldon had 175 carries, 1,108 yards, 6.3 yards/carry average; Lacy (a RS freshman) had 56 carries, 406 yards, 7.3 yards/carry; Richardson had 145 carries, 751 yards, 5.2 yards/carry; Ingram had 143 carries, 728 yards, 5.1 yards/carry.
Harris had 45 carries, 155 yards, 3.4 yards/carry (if you deduct the 41 yards he had on one carry against MTSU he had 2.59 yards/carry).
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The question for Harris is not whether he is better than UK backs but whether he's better than the rest of the backs at Bama that are there now and the ones who will be recruited going forward
Definitely don't blame him for picking Alabama over UK but why did he throw dirt in our face with that Instagram post. Most UK fans are/were pulling for the kid. I lost a lot of respect after that.
ANY 1/2 way decent SEC running back should be capable of averaging 4.5 - 5.5 yards per carry when they get the ball mostly in the 2nd half already down 3 touchdowns, with the defense sagging off, only intending not to give up the "big play," heavy on the pass, more than happy to let a running back get a first down or two, knowing that they can stop UK around mid field anyway, get the ball back, eat up some more clock with their offense, maybe score again, maybe not. The situation is already in control. We beat this sorry UK team in the 2nd quarter. If they want to run on 2nd and 8, fine . . . might as well leave the situation where their fans can talk about how good a job their running backs did at the end of the season. yada-yada-yada . . . .
Harris averaged 3.4 yards/carry this year and only 2.59 yards/carry if you exclude the 41 yard carry he had in the final minutes of the MTSU game.
Exactly. We all get why he did it. But the cheap shot was entirely unnecessary.
You bring in 5 start running back. Second string guy has broken arm, Henry runs for 40 carries two or 3 games in a row. Don't you think a 5 star RB would maybe get a few carries, I mean 40 freaking carries is a lot in 3 games, Saban has run Henry like a rented mule. It was talked about that coaches had no faith in other RB's.
If you are an NFL team, would you select Henry after Saban flat out abused him for a season or 2. 2 40 carry games is a lot and a red flag to NFL, RB's only have so many carries in them.
I am just saying.
A 5 star RB cannot get any run. BS on this, he is not that good and the coaches don't trust him, take a 1 arm Drake to be back up.
If you are an NFL team, would you select Henry after Saban flat out abused him for a season or 2. 2 40 carry games is a lot and a red flag to NFL, RB's only have so many carries in them.
I am just saying.
A 5 star RB cannot get any run. BS on this, he is not that good and the coaches don't trust him, take a 1 arm Drake to be back up.
I think the answer to that is they are not fans of the UK football program.
Harris has more than his share of apologists on this thread. I wonder if that's because he did not come here. I wonder if some of his apologists would be the first blasting him if he had come here and put similar numbers to what he put up at Alabama?
We had little to no long threat ability in our passing game against SEC competition. I would argue that for the most part teams played to stop our run because Dawson seemed to be intent on running the ball. Between QB's who have no accuracy and receivers who kept dropping passes there wasn't any need to sag off to not give up the big play.
Very true. What you've been saying about Harris is consistent with what I read on twitter. Hunter Johnson tweeted on December 5th how Harris must have looked like a walk-on in practice and several Bama fans replied expressing doubt about Harris, particularly his lack of burst. Unfortunately, we have UK fans putting down our own players and defending Harris and his trolling just because Harris was ranked higher. Rankings are helpful but not absolute. His season has undoubtedly been disappointing with, as you point out, Saban running Henry the way he has and not giving Harris carries. Harris was getting some carries earlier in the season. We shall see how Harris does in the future but still think his trolling of UK would not be on his mind if he had done more on the field.
Peculiar irony, the conditions of apologies. On one hand you may have one and two more years to apologize for miserable Kentucky football by celebrating running numbers out of Kemp and Williams. On another hand may be one or two national championship rings for Damien Harris, and you can somehow celebrate how his achievements were less. Peculiar irony, indeed.
The true "irony" is seeing a UK Football fan going to bat for an opposing player that was disrespectful to our program. The same player that played our coaching staff for all he could get out of them and led all of #BBN to believe he wanted to be a Wildcat.
I remembered when a new poster come on here and said they went to his school and was somewhat friends with him and Harris was playing us. He was going to Bama but was using UK. The kid also said that Harris was not a good guy at all and gave several reasons why like how he laughed at trolling UK fans on twitter giving them hope.
Of course many on here ran him off because they couldn't believe that cause Harris was coming here.
Of course many on here ran him off because they couldn't believe that cause Harris was coming here.
Maybe so, but Harris never committed to this team. Stanley Williams did. And I'm pretty sure he was very disrespectful to this program after the Missouri win in such a way that didn't exactly go without negatively affecting the team for the remainder of the season. Which UK fans in this thread are "going to bat" for the running back that disrespected this team the most harmfully? Irony indeed - to vilify Harris for his conjecture supported arrogance and "me first-ness" and yet to espouse the virtues of Stanley Williams while completely overlooking the recent and actual harm that his did cause. Too happy to string this thread along and get as many examples of that - give you folks something to think about - Harris very useful for that purpose. "Boom" should have been blasted from this team. We went to pot thereafter. Damn near lost to Eastern next. No issues with Kemp. Rather have him with the ball over Williams anyway. IMO, he has a much better natural ability to see the middle field. Probably gets the ball less because Stoops is afraid of Williams' displeasure. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if during one or two of Harris' visits he had an encounter with Stanley Williams that didn't go well, conjecture being in fashion. Have a nice evening, y'all.
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[QUOTE. "Boom" should have been blasted from this team. We went to pot thereafter. Damn near lost to Eastern next. No issues with Kemp. Rather have him with the ball over Williams anyway. IMO, he has a much better natural ability to see the middle field. Probably gets the ball less because Stoops is afraid of Williams' displeasure. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if during one or two of Harris' visits he had an encounter with Stanley Williams that didn't go well, conjecture being in fashion. Have a nice evening, y'all.[/QUOTE]
Since we're talking conjecture, this idea that whatever Boom did, carried over negatively for the rest of the season is more than conjecture; it's BS
Since we're talking conjecture, this idea that whatever Boom did, carried over negatively for the rest of the season is more than conjecture; it's BS
He missed a kickoff in the Auburn game and the other back recovered the ball in the end zone and ran in out to save Harris's butt. Sounds like he needs to work on catching the ball on kick offs and spend less time on social media downing his home state school who treated him like gold... He sounds like a real punk to me!
He also fumbled the kickoff against A&M and he fumbled at the 5 yard line against Charlestown Southern. No wonder Saban isn't giving him much PT
Why didn't OP start a thread about him fumbling?
Harris will be a beast I watched in person kid was a man amongst boys had 256 yard at halftime once. Kids a anonster! ANIMAL monster
Why does his tweet have to be directed at our program?
Lots of UK fans were pretty pathetic on his social media according to some when he announced, so maybe it was at them...?
Maybe.
However, my point is why would a UK Football fan go out of his way to use this kid as a source of further downing our football players and program?
However, my point is why would a UK Football fan go out of his way to use this kid as a source of further downing our football players and program?