Has anyone heard this about Payton Manning before today?

[UKaveman]

It's unbelievable how much traction this story has gotten. Couple of things. It's one sided and presents her version of the story only. Second, this guy has an agenda and basically says so straight from jump street. Manning gets treated differently because he's white whereas Newton gets held to a much different standard because he's black. Lastly, this incident happened over 20 YEARS AGO!!! Yes, I had heard rumors that Manning acted like an idiot in some form such as this. What has he done over the last 20 years of his career. How many of you would want any of your stupidity when you were 19 dug up and re-litigated decades later after it's been settled TWICE in civil court??????

And reporters wonder why the average Joe hates their "profession". I even read a story from some Boston jerky boy who jumped on it and then one upped with tawdry unsubstantiated innuendo that Manning was quite the ladies man and everybody knows this. What a loser. I'm not a Manning sycophant but just believe that ESPN and other so called journalists have little to no credibility and must resort to sensationalism to bolster their sagging and pathetic ratings. You can almost see they are bending over backwards to not offend the BLM movement and are now making Manning out to be a sexual predator. What a pathetic place we are now in when a hack journalist gets his racial sensitivities to cajole a supposed major news entity to cow-tow to his pathetic agenda. "They're treating Cam mean so I've got to slam Peyton". I'm so sick of all this crap!

 

[UK till Death]

This is why you never cheer for Tennessee QB's! C'mon people!!!

Peyton is small-time compared to the rapist/scumbag in your sig. :flush:

 

[billoliver40]

In re to the op....
It was in the news about fourteen years ago when the individual bringing suit against UT brought up something that happened seven years before that. This was all settled and done two decades ago.
And I have never been a UT fan.
This is largely Sean King wanting his name out there.
Horsefeathers

 

[T75]

Peyton wasn't a fan favorite anywhere BUT UT. Age and years in the pros made him the good guy.

Of couse he wasn't a fan favorite at all those other places. He was kicking their tails too hard to be liked at places like Athens, Tuscaloosa, etc.

 

[billoliver40]

lol.....believe it or not, I remember Peyton never beat Bama. Matter of fact, UT got their national title the year after Peyton left....with Tee Martin as quarterback.

 

[tnlongdrvr]

WATE tv in Knoxville ran a story about the title IX or whatever the roman numeral suit that was filed against UT yesterday (12-15). The story alluded to the 3 lawsuits the athletic trainer filed against Manning. It even showed the 3 different lawsuits and parts of them. In 2003(probably correct date(i'm old)it reported the 2003 lawsuit was thrown out and then a new lawsuit was filed in 2004. It was settled out of court. Just because it was settled out of court, DOES NOT MEAN THAT ANYONE IS GUILTY!! A fairly knowledgeable person with an iota of common sense knows that settlement does not mean guilt. It is just better to settle out of court and deal with the alternative. Is Manning guilty? Only 2 people know. the rest is just speculation. my problem with the whole situation is the fact that the dirty UT athletic dept. tried to protect their athletes and tried to cover up. Look at the JB Cooter cases that were swept under the rugs and no court records can be found. He was only a backup QB at UT! This is a common occurance at UT.

 

[trinity45_rivals378029]

Reading these comments is like reading comments from headlines, social media, push media headlines and 24/7 news bombarding our consciousness.

Not a single poster on this thread has even a clue what is true or not. Our responses are based more on emotion than fact. This is what the media feeds on to boost ratings and audience share. Thi is life in a 500 channel world. Congratulations OP, you just did your share to feed the media monster.

You are so correct, it used to be the media would never run with a story until they got all their facts checked, now days they will run with anything and never check to see what is true and what is fabricated especially the sports media because number 1 it brings in viewers and number 2 you can't be the last one in so better to be the first to report it and worry about truthfulness later.

 

[trinity45_rivals378029]

1. It was settled out of court which means there was enough of a threat to pay her
2. Our court system is rarely about guilt or innocence, more about $. Rich guys often times get away with stuff.

I disagree with #1, most cases it can be cheaper to settle for the supposed sum of $350,000 than pay a law firm say millions to take it thru the courts. Lawyers are not cheap, look at the lady who got $900,000 from a settlement but only received $200,00 the rest went to the lawyers.

 

[GSM_Vol]

Funny how some ITT is assuming Manning is a lier and automatically taking the girl to her word. I just find it funny that the girl who's life was destroyed back in 96, waited until 2006 to tell what really happened after the book came out. Funny how when the incident happened the girl in her own words before settling said it was just a mooning. Now all of a sudden, Peyton is being put into a group with rapist and murders. All of this was brought back up after he won the Super Bowl when social media blew up with the way Newton was acting. Then a BLM activist took to Twitter linking the mooning incident and wrote a article on how Peyton is a sexual predator.

 

[Mr Schwump]

Lots of "kill the messenger" in this thread.

 

[redbudman]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...eaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395

I lost all respect for Manning after the way he conducted his self after Super Bowl! Instead of praising the defense an Oswieler he chose to talk about Budweiser with his children at his feet! He is a scum bag!

 

[Mr Schwump]

I lost all respect for Manning after the way he conducted his self after Super Bowl! Instead of praising the defense an Oswieler he chose to talk about Budweiser with his children at his feet! He is a scum bag!

But he probably made a million bucks off his pimping Bud, that makes it OK.

 

[chuckster.sixpack]

lol.....believe it or not, I remember Peyton never beat Bama. Matter of fact, UT got their national title the year after Peyton left....with Tee Martin as quarterback.

He actually had a 3-1 record against the fighting Updykes. Florida was a different story. He was 0-4 against them. Even lost to Spurrier as a Colt.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Living in the Denver area I've heard most everything about Manning these last 4 years so yes I've heard. Meh, lots of us do stupid things when we're young. I think most anyone would agree Peyton went on to be a fine, good man. Not perfect mind you, but one of the good guys. Many a Bronco has been in serious trouble, or had lots of whisper's about bad behavior. None of that for Manning. Personally I hope he retires on top. I watched all those games last year. He may be a better man at 39 than he was at UT, but his best days as an NFL QB are now behind him, and they are not coming back.

 

[ZenCatFan73]

Bitter folk trying to scrape up dirt about Manning because they have an agenda. Nobody's perfect. You could find dirt on just about anyone.

 

[billoliver40]

Maybe one of the questions folks should be asking is why this particular reporter thought this was more important now instead of twenty years ago. This doesn't strike me as so much of news as it does deliberate character assassination. If it had happened this year, fair enough. The fact that this whole incident has been settled TWICE, and years ago....and now to be brought up is not a matter of 'news'.
It's pure garbage.

 

[TeoJ]

IF!!!!!, they did settle the first time very DUMB of Archie and Peyton to write about her in a book your making money off of. The old saying let sleeping dogs lie should apply here.

 

[billoliver40]

According to the Nashville radio folks, UT paid about three hundred K to the plaintiff who had a list of thirty allegations, Peyton being one. Peyton stated in a book about seven years later that he had acted inappropriately but not illegally in an incident at UT. The woman's name was not mentioned, other than Peyton saying this woman had a foul mouth. She brought suit against him AGAIN those years ago for violating a silence order. So, is Mr King trying to get Manning to violate that order again???
Honestly....This thing needs to be shut up hard. This is no free speech case.

 

[TeoJ]

Sounds like if Peyton doesn't say anything he's good.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

According to the Nashville radio folks, UT paid about three hundred K to the plaintiff who had a list of thirty allegations, Peyton being one. Peyton stated in a book about seven years later that he had acted inappropriately but not illegally in an incident at UT. The woman's name was not mentioned, other than Peyton saying this woman had a foul mouth. She brought suit against him AGAIN those years ago for violating a silence order. So, is Mr King trying to get Manning to violate that order again???
Honestly....This thing needs to be shut up hard. This is no free speech case.

Well I am not a UT fan by any stretch, but after Peyton left I begin to like him, thought he was a good guy, maybe he still is. This will strike a nerve with some here, but if the female wasn't allowed in the male lockerroom/trainingroom this wouldn't have happened. She certainly has a right to be a college trainer/therapist if that is her chosen profession, but UT had female teams too.

 

[Mr Schwump]

Well I am not a UT fan by any stretch, but after Peyton left I begin to like him, thought he was a good guy, maybe he still is. This will strike a nerve with some here, but if the female wasn't allowed in the male lockerroom/trainingroom this wouldn't have happened. She certainly has a right to be a college trainer/therapist if that is her chosen profession, but UT had female teams too.

Blame the victim and shoot the messenger it is, winning combination in this thread.

 

[Grumpyolddawg]

Blame the victim and shoot the messenger it is, winning combination in this thread.

Some things just are real smart to do and when something happens they get the victim tag. I don't think a male dressing room full of 18-22 year old males is a wise choice in picking a job location for a female. Kind of like me putting on a hood and bedsheet walking down the streets of Harlem, I certainly have the right to, but I don't think its something I want to do.

 

[PushupMan]

It's unbelievable how much traction this story has gotten. Couple of things. It's one sided and presents her version of the story only. Second, this guy has an agenda and basically says so straight from jump street. Manning gets treated differently because he's white whereas Newton gets held to a much different standard because he's black. Lastly, this incident happened over 20 YEARS AGO!!! Yes, I had heard rumors that Manning acted like an idiot in some form such as this. What has he done over the last 20 years of his career. How many of you would want any of your stupidity when you were 19 dug up and re-litigated decades later after it's been settled TWICE in civil court??????

Under normal circumstances, I'd agree with you on this. Twenty years ago, so it's over and done.

The real problem as I see it is that Peyton and Archie just wouldn't let it go.... Peyton Manning committed sexual assault on this woman and then tried to lie his way out of it. Even with the help of several UT administrators attempting to bury the incident, the assault and the lie that Peyton tried to tell to cover it up eventually were refuted by Manning's very own UT teammate - the player he claimed that he was attempting to "moon".

Yet even when, by the grace of God, the Manning's were given the gift of having the damning details of the entire sordid incident sealed within court records, Peyton and Archie were still so bitter about losing (or at least not "winning"), that they broke the confidentiality agreement in an attempt to smear the woman's name. They succeeded in doing so, but it's kind of like the old saying about cutting off your nose to spite your face.... By smearing this woman's reputation and breaking the confidentiality agreement, it resulted in a new court case that allowed all of the sordid details about Manning's sexual assault and cover-up lies to become public knowledge.

In this case, Peyton and Archie were definitely their own worst enemies. And most likely, they both deserve a little recurring bad publicity about it - this is the lesson in humility that both Peyton and Archie apparently really need.

 

[billoliver40]

Blame the victim and shoot the messenger it is, winning combination in this thread.

No, not really. What I was saying is that this was reported years ago. It was settled financially years ago. Manning erred big time in mentioning something about it in a book I never knew he wrote and paid one more time for violating an order that closed the books on this.
Now someone decided to open it up again. Apparently the original plaintiff thought they were victimized over thirty times in some way. The University paid it off to make it stop. The plaintiff agreed.....twenty years. Done.

Why is there a messenger now when there is no victim? The person claiming to have been victimized agreed years ago to three hundred thousand worth of 'that will make it better'


If someone steps up with further misdeeds, then yes...it's news. If not, then this is over.

 

[whhs22]

Those weren't court transcripts, but, rather, citations to a 74 page filing by the plaintiff's attorney.

Moreover, the writer is Shaun King. He is a professional SJW with an agenda of his own, and credibility issues of his own. King's agenda is very simple- he resents the negative attention that Cam Newton received in recent weeks (which is understandable, because Newton has taken his share of unfair heat), and has decided to take his anger out on Peyton Manning.

Exactly. This was written by a man with an agenda. That was completely one side story. Im sure something happened, just not so sure it was exactly what i just read.

In the early 90s women we're slowly working there way into mens locker rooms. I remember the attitude being if they wanna be here then we will treat them like everyone else. No reason to change what we did just because They wanna be here. Not a good attitude. Ended up costing the military and men sports institutions a lot.

Mens locker rooms are vulgar at times. Could i see her trying to fit in by playing a long with locker room dirty joke's? Of course. So saying she spent all this time with these men in a vulgar environment and never participated, is hard to believe.

I could see guys being guys and thinking she was in on the joke Peyton doing a horrible thing crossing the line. Not saying its right , just saying im not so sure it was this act that scared this lady like she is saying.

Somewhere in all this is the truth and content we are not being told. I could see this lady getting upset or possibly being released and using this incident on the way out. Would like to see when she was fired or got demoted compared to the date of this incident.

Im not saying she is not telling the truth. But its hard for me to believe that someone who spent that much time in male locker rooms in a time before rules and standards we're put in place to keep this from happening, that all of a sudden this type of male locker room trashy joking was unusual to her.

She has gotten 2 huge pay days for something that should not of happened, but was not uncommon in male locker rooms. And some of you will think this is horrible and is a isolated incident. Well in the 90s all the way back to the first male locker room ding dong jokes are the norm. And if you remember she even said she witnessed Peyton doing the exact samething to male trainers. That a lone tells me she was being treated like others, problem was she was a female in a mans world. Gotta remember in that time women in the locker room wanted to be treated the same. Just dont think women had any idea what they we're getting themselves in for.

 

[BigBluePhantom]

. King's agenda is very simple- he resents the negative attention that Cam Newton received in recent weeks (which is understandable, because Newton has taken his share of unfair heat), and has decided to take his anger out on Peyton Manning.

Wait. Are you being sarcastic or am I missing something else? Unfair Heat? I would say Cam deserves every ounce of heat he has received.

 

[Parabolicsecan]

Wait. Are you being sarcastic or am I missing something else? Unfair Heat? I would say Cam deserves every once of heat he has received.

It was a press conference, a press conference, we are talking about a press conference. Cam opened the door for any and everybody feeling salty about his style and his self-centered ways that do not necessarily sync with how a lot of people 'claim' they would act if they were in his position to hurl ridicule. As it relates to Manning, the guy is going down as one of the greatest ever and rightfully so. Just as with Cam, when you are the best/great at what you do, no matter how you do it, you will always have protractors that try to smear you.

 

[Gary4UK]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...eaky-clean-image-built-lies-article-1.2530395

Sour grapes crying racial discrimination... I suppose the Academy awards is racial, because a black actor wasn't nominated... Now, I suppose Shaun King, a black writer is pulling up old articles about Peyton Manning, simply because a black QB lost the Super Bowl....

Where will this crazy political correctness end? My goodness, there is a black President in the White House... Does people actually think that all the votes that Obama got came from black voters?....No, it took a majority of white votes to get him elected...

Now, Obama has split this nation more than any President, since the war between the states... Not just between black and white, but has divided people over the 2nd amendment, church and government, and have even caused the Legislation to disappear and now have the Judicial system doing the work of both branches of Government....

The voters in this nation doesn't have a say in anything that goes on, because the middle man, the legislative branch that answers to the people, have been taking away.... Why don't you hear that, because of the liberal left wing media.....

Now, I know this is a mixed up rant, but that's the mood that I'm in right now... This guy that wrote that article, Shaun King, where was he when they were replacing Tim Tebow with Peyton Manning? Now where to be seen, or heard, because it didn't suit his racial politics......

One of the nicest guys in football, Tim Tebow, for the guy that he's crucifying now? He didn't care about a nice guy, who IMO, should be playing NFL football... If it wasn't for politically correct media laughing the guy off the football field, he still would be playing somewhere.... The media judged that his faith in God was more humorous than articles they could find of Peyton Manning... They got what they want, one of their own, and he won a Super Bowl...

So, don't go griping how that your guy didn't win... That the media didn't give your guy any love... Well, maybe they would, if the guy hadn't cried and banged his head against the wall and took a hissy fit..... Evidently, he thought he was entitled... BTW, where was the articles telling how much money that Auburn paid him to play football for them....?

Well, this guy might write his article, but I'm going to say exactly what I think of the guy..... He's owned by the very thing that he supports, and the sad thing is, he doesn't even know it.... Done!

 

[trinity45_rivals378029]

Maybe one of the questions folks should be asking is why this particular reporter thought this was more important now instead of twenty years ago. This doesn't strike me as so much of news as it does deliberate character assassination. If it had happened this year, fair enough. The fact that this whole incident has been settled TWICE, and years ago....and now to be brought up is not a matter of 'news'.
It's pure garbage.

The reporter in question is very questionable, first he raised funds for the Martin's kids funeral expenses but never turned the money over, was kicked out of a black lives matter movement on and on so now to get some attention he turns an old law suit into a new story but only uses what suits him, his facts he states are half truths to no truth at all. I am disappointed that a new paper would actually run any thing this guy wrote. He is not reputable.

 

[trinity45_rivals378029]

Those weren't court transcripts, but, rather, citations to a 74 page filing by the plaintiff's attorney.

Moreover, the writer is Shaun King. He is a professional SJW with an agenda of his own, and credibility issues of his own. King's agenda is very simple- he resents the negative attention that Cam Newton received in recent weeks (which is understandable, because Newton has taken his share of unfair heat), and has decided to take his anger out on Peyton Manning.

King has more than credibility issues, look up the guys past, Jason Whitlock hit the nail on the head with this guy and I am more apt to believe Jason than Shaun King who may not even be black.

 

[Mr Schwump]

Whatever the article's author may or may not be it doesn't change the basic facts of the case but deflect as you must if it makes you feel better.

 

[WildcatofNati]

Whatever the article's author may or may not be it doesn't change the basic facts of the case but deflect as you must if it makes you feel better.

Why would a bunch of UK fans be trying to make themselves feel better about a former UT quarterback? I don't exactly consider this a fanboard for Peyton Manning, so I don't think that anyone here is doing that.

And the author's agenda does not change the basis facts, but it does naturally lead to question whether one such as King is accurately relaying the basic facts. What King is relaying is a filing from the attorneys for the plaintiff. No doubt the defendant's attorney have their own filings on record, and no doubt that those are different facts. I don't have any personal knowledge as to what happened here, and I doubt that you do, either, and I also doubt that King does, but that doesn't stop him from making a vicious hitpiece, all because he's mad because Cam Newton was taking criticism, criticism that Manning had absolutely nothing to do with.

 

[WildcatofNati]

Wait. Are you being sarcastic or am I missing something else? Unfair Heat? I would say Cam deserves every ounce of heat he has received.

Perhaps "unfair" was the wrong word. It was more of a case of overkill vs. unfairness. No doubt the guy feels bad enough over a crappy game, no need to the media to pile on to the extent that happened. Which in no way justifies King's disgusting vendetta against Manning.

 

[billoliver40]

Whatever the article's author may or may not be it doesn't change the basic facts of the case but deflect as you must if it makes you feel better.

What case???????
Where is anyone on here denying that Manning was involved in a bad incident?
You seem to believe this was not reported when it happened. It was by the Nashville and Knoxville media at length. The party that claimed grievance agreed to a monetary solution and THAT GRIEVANCE WAS AGAINST THE UNIVERSITY OF TENNESSEE....NOT MANNING.
Manning paid for mentioning the event WITHOUT mentioning any names in a separate incident several years after the first.
So...my question for you is why the hatred for something that WAS settled in a legal process to the satisfaction of the person claiming offense?
The situation was resolved. The error of mentioning it again was resolved. No one on here has ever claimed Manning to be a saint...only carrying himself as a professional for the twenty years after.
As far as Kings reporting of the case, where is the accuracy of only documenting one party's side of this 'case' without the rebuttals from the twenty nine other complaints and only focusing on one incident out of thirty?
I stand with my statement this is a smear attempt by King for whatever agenda he has.

 

[BigBluePhantom]

Perhaps "unfair" was the wrong word. It was more of a case of overkill vs. unfairness. No doubt the guy feels bad enough over a crappy game, no need to the media to pile on to the extent that happened. Which in no way justifies King's disgusting vendetta against Manning.

That makes sense but I have to disagree slightly. It wasn't just that he had a bad game, he quit. He quit on the play. He quit on his team. He quit on the fans and he quit on himself. I had put all the stuff that happened in college behind me and had actually become a pretty big Cam fan. However, there is no way I can pull for him in the future. What he did is inexcusable. There was a huge amount of media attention but it was a pretty big game if you think about it.

 

[billoliver40]

There it is. Cam quit on the play. Fourth quarter, down by six. You fumble....everyone else on the field in the pile....but you hesitate, then back up. Then you say quite plainly you didn't want to get hurt....and have teammates playing with injuries that include a broken arm because they know they might never get to this game again.
Not a rookie. Twenty six years old. Five years in the big show.
That's the reason for the turn on Cam Newton.

 

[truebluewildcat_rivals34254]

I think folks are forgetting that this issue has been settled...

There is nothing to discuss...the only two people who really know what happened came to some sort of agreement and settled...

As for the larger issue...the coverage of it and how it has really taken off as if it happened yesterday...as if there is some ugly photo or video evidence...

I don't think it is any mystery as to what Shaun King's objective is...

He's looking to stir the pot...want's a trophy scalp to parade around...

If he was really concerned about violence against women and seeking justice, then why isn't he going to war against Ray Rice, Greg Hardy...if he's upset with the UT "scandal" then why isn't he raising a stink over the other players involved...

Every year there are stories about athletes being involved in some ugly situations with women...some may be legit and serious cases...some are probably not...regardless, where has he been with all the other alleged cases of athletes getting into trouble and then getting off relatively easy because of their status?