that most of these terrible shootings are happening in way liberal states that have soft on crime laws?........I'd like to hear a sheeple defend that intelligently......of course that last word will eliminate 90% of the sheeples
Has anyone noticed
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Very true. Criminals prey on the weak and defenseless and that's what leftists do to their bleaters. Make them weak and defenseless and totally dependent on goverment. Our Constitutional right to own firearms plays a huge part in why no country would attack us on our ground. The enemy would be massacred.
But bleaters will be bleaters and continue handing everything over to big government.
Leftists and their bleaters are destroying our country.
They would wait till under attack then hand out weapons.... Democrats want to wait for hrs for a cop to respond... Democrat logic WTF?
What is your answer? Arm college students? Yeah, nothing could go wrong there.
I've been on many campuses in the past 12 months for my kid on her recruiting trips. The ones we've been on are filled with capable police officers, not "rent-a-cops" either.
Crazy going to be crazy, and having more guns won't stop it.
This is correct, but neither will more gun Laws which creepy Joe immediately called for. The adage here applies:
The best way to stop a bad person with a gun is a good person (ie cops or anyone else) with a gun.
I wish I had a good answer .What is your answer? Arm college students? Yeah, nothing could go wrong there.
I've been on many campuses in the past 12 months for my kid on her recruiting trips. The ones we've been on are filled with capable police officers, not "rent-a-cops" either.
Crazy going to be crazy, and having more guns won't stop it.
Think we need to look at what we changed as a society years ago to find out what's causing so many crazies now days.
Taking gun rights is not the answer
If you mention what in my opinion is the root cause of all of this Evil, rather than engaging in a serious discussion about a lack of morals because we've turned away from Godly righteousness, you're likely to be pummeled with a bunch of names calling you anything but a child of Almighty God.
Stupid Leftists lap up Biden's call for "more gun bans" falsely believing that somehow eliminating all guns eliminates gun violence. Isn't it interesting how despite all the Leftist calls to ban guns, they never ask for the government to disarm?
Leftists believe they can legislate away violence, but somehow they can't stop Governments from committing violent acts against unarmed people?
Know where governments have the most trouble controlling folks? When the folks are also armed! Like in 2nd amendment America!
All I'm saying is we as a nation started changing , making excuses for criminals protection for criminals. Stopped protecting the sane from the insane. Stopped paddling in school lost respect for authority, started glorify criminals. I'm sure I'm missing something.
Except the government suspended all our fundamental rights for months in 2020 and none of this nation's armed citizens did anything about it.Stupid Leftists lap up Biden's call for "more gun bans" falsely believing that somehow eliminating all guns eliminates gun violence. Isn't it interesting how despite all the Leftist calls to ban guns, they never ask for the government to disarm?
Leftists believe they can legislate away violence, but somehow they can't stop Governments from committing violent acts against unarmed people?
Know where governments have the most trouble controlling folks? When the folks are also armed! Like in 2nd amendment America!
People need to can the tough guy talk.
That is correct! So many of us just mindlessly accepted all the fear porn. Fortunately not all of us did. At least they had to lie to try and get us to believe & follow along with their manufactured scam. (ie masks, worthless vaccines)
Didn't work here.
Agree and disagree...
I don't think it was time to take up arms ..... I wish more Americans would have told them to pound sand on the mandates and staying home . That might have lead to taking up arms . If more people would have walked off the jobs , if we had peacefully protested....
"IF' is a big word ....
I believe government would have backed down had we the people stood our ground without guns . It was a test to see what we would take the next one they will push harder
Many Americans ignored what the government. I can assure you bleaters didn't. Bleaters are ready to hand over all of their rights to government. Look at how they vote.
Actually I think we see just the opposite.
The BLM riots were predominantly leftists who were taking the fight to the government, in addition to looting and breaking ****. When is the last time we saw the right do that? Instead, it is always excuses.
And I'm not advocating fighting the government or arguing which side was correct.
They weren't breaking the Law for a righteous cause. Don't see how you can conflate what they were doing with fighting against unreasonable tyranny? Who is "oppressing" them? (BLM) No one stopped them from protesting. They certainly have a right to protest, but not to destroy private property or government buildings!
There are folks STILL sitting in jail who simply protested on Jan 6th, and they didn't loot anything or burn down one building! Why weren't any BLM rioters held to the same standard?
I do believe we must fight ....
I believe we can fight like a civil group and do it peacefully.
Florida is not liberal and neither is texas. I think you have to widen your parameters to figure out what's going on. The latest in Michigan could have been prevented by putting the criminal in jail where the bastard belonged.
Voting is key .
We can and should protest in the streets as they did in Richmond over guns .
They all had guns and proved protesting peacefully works . They acted as a group of civilized people even cleaning up the streets as they protested.
That's just ridiculous. Destroying your community, burning businesses to the ground and destroying public property our tax dollars financed is no way to fight the government over masks. Killing a retired cop who wasn't doing a damned thing? He was a fellow American. The way we do that is defy them like many of us did. What are they going to do? Arrest all of us?
When government comes after us for defying them, that's when we defend ourselves. We fight for our freedoms. What leftists did was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever seen. The government sit back and let them do it. It wasn't the government who will have to pay.
And when you talk about leftists "fighting back" just remember this....Leftists are the ones who are trying to disarm Americans.
Those riots were exactly what the government wanted (rather paid) them to do.
"Come on, man"
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It was a ludicrous argument ever conflating those two as legitimate forms of "protest". You properly called out one of them for what it regrettably was, the other for hopefully what it will (should) be!
Outstanding post.
One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.They weren't breaking the Law for a righteous cause. Don't see how you can conflate what they were doing with fighting against unreasonable tyranny? Who is "oppressing" them? (BLM) No one stopped them from protesting. They certainly have a right to protest, but not to destroy private property or government buildings!
There are folks STILL sitting in jail who simply protested on Jan 6th, and they didn't loot anything or burn down one building! Why weren't any BLM rioters held to the same standard?
All I am saying is I see the left doing what the right boasts and pretends they will do with their arms.
I am not saying either is right or wrong. I respect the left for at least having the balls to put their money where their mouth is in this regard.
I don't care about any of that.
You are saying the left is rolling over for the government while the government takes their rights away but that isn't what I saw with the BLM riots. We saw the left out there fighting our government officials.
If you want to argue the merits of the BLM riots, we can argue that in another thread, (I think we all know my view of that). But all I see from the right is cheap talk and idle threats when their rights were abused while the left actually stood up for themselves when they felt their rights were abused.
It is pretty ironic.
Well you certainly are entitled to your opinion on Leftists destroying personal property in the name of "peaceful protesting". I have no respect for their form of protesting or their so called "cause" trying to tear apart the very country that gives them the freedom to speak out against that which they find so unfavorable. God forbid they should win in their ultimate objective:
"no borders, no walls, no USA at all!"
No thanks.
You may or may not have the intellectual honesty to answer this however I'd imagine from this argument you have no problem with Pro-Life supporters (mostly on the Right) firebombing abortion mills in order to stop the government from funding the slaughter of innocent babies?
Using your logic, this is the Right taking their protest to the streets and using actions "standing up for themselves" as they feel the rights of the unborn are abused?
You're OK with this form of "protesting"?
C'mon @SoCo, what 'ya got on anti-abortion protestors on the Right exercising their "right to protest" by destroying private property?
...and your "respect" for the Right going out and firebombing abortion mills "putting their money where their mouth is" over the murder of innocent babies?
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@SoCo just FYI (in case you're wondering)
I bitterly oppose Pro-Life activists firebombing abortion mills. That is not the way to win hearts and minds for Life! While I certainly understand their anger over what goes on behind those Evil walls, that still does not give them the right to destroy private property or prevent others who choose to utilize those services from accessing them.
However I also vehemently oppose BLM protestors destroying private property in order to oppose "racial violence" on the part of the government (ie: police) against black suspects. That is not the way to assure equal justice under the Law or to protest against those who do not see police enforcement against suspected black perpetrators as "unequal".
My arguments are both consistent as well as intellectually honest. What are your arguments besides deafeningly silent?
I bitterly oppose Pro-Life activists firebombing abortion mills. That is not the way to win hearts and minds for Life! While I certainly understand their anger over what goes on behind those Evil walls, that still does not give them the right to destroy private property or prevent others who choose to utilize those services from accessing them.
However I also vehemently oppose BLM protestors destroying private property in order to oppose "racial violence" on the part of the government (ie: police) against black suspects. That is not the way to assure equal justice under the Law or to protest against those who do not see police enforcement against suspected black perpetrators as "unequal".
My arguments are both consistent as well as intellectually honest. What are your arguments besides deafeningly silent?
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I’m not the idiot saying I have my guns to fight our own government.You may or may not have the intellectual honesty to answer this however I'd imagine from this argument you have no problem with Pro-Life supporters (mostly on the Right) firebombing abortion mills in order to stop the government from funding the slaughter of innocent babies?
Using your logic, this is the Right taking their protest to the streets and using actions "standing up for themselves" as they feel the rights of the unborn are abused?
You're OK with this form of "protesting"?
C'mon @SoCo, what 'ya got on anti-abortion protestors on the Right exercising their "right to protest" by destroying private property?
...and your "respect" for the Right going out and firebombing abortion mills "putting their money where their mouth is" over the murder of innocent babies?
the stupidity of that entire line of reasoning is amazing to me. Especially When I see the left fighting the government for what they perceive to be injustice while the right talks the big game but is too cowardly to back it up.
like I said above, the right needs to shove the tough guy talk up their ***. They sound foolish. They had their chance to stand up for their rights but pushed out.
I asked you if you respect the Right firebombing abortion clinics in protest against the government like you said you respected the Left rioting and burning down buildings to protest the government?
Why is one worthy of your recognition as a legitimate expression of protest and the other you remain silent on?
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The fact you can't/won't honestly answer the perfect example I've provided to you ITT to back up your rhetoric about protesting on either side proves you are either intellectually dishonest or just poking fun at folks on one side who you think have no real legitimate beef or the will to carry it out? Either way your bellyaching about the right preferring armed resistance for whatever reason(s) they find legitimate, while you praise the Left for having the guts to burn down buildings is just a lot of blah...blah...blah....
I must be honest. I have no idea what you are talking about.The fact you can't/won't honestly answer the perfect example I've provided to you ITT to back up your rhetoric about protesting on either side proves you are either intellectually dishonest or just poking fun at folks on one side who you think have no real legitimate beef or the will to carry it out? Either way your bellyaching about the right preferring armed resistance for whatever reason(s) they find legitimate, while you praise the Left for having the guts to burn down buildings is just a lot of blah...blah...blah....
You argue like a millenial with all your goofy pics, memes and other internet spoofs. If laughing at you wasn't so fun I wouldn't waste my time on you.